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Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 9:18 PM GMT
I agree with Vel.
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 9:19 PM GMT
Aye READY!

Rapture Ready!
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 9:19 PM GMT
I only agree with your bible quotes
Report akabula • January 22, 2017 9:21 PM GMT
Ovalman.   
The odds of hitting a flush when there are 2 flush cards on the flop are roughly 2/1.
OVALMAN 9.15


.......... And 4/1 after the turn
Akabula tonight.
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 9:23 PM GMT
Definitely only one Jesus..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPPP3BXurHk
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 9:24 PM GMT
The chances of being true to one'self thruout life are roughly non exisent

Trilby 2022
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 9:25 PM GMT
"I only agree with your bible quotes "

ME TOO!
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 9:26 PM GMT
as does satan
Report akabula • January 22, 2017 9:29 PM GMT
Who decided what went in the bible and when?
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 9:32 PM GMT
I understand the Lord to speak to those who will listen.
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 9:37 PM GMT
AKA - FORGIVE ME FOR TYPING IN CAPS...Plain

IF YOU'RE REALLY INTERESTED, THERE ARE LOADS OF BOOKS ON THIS SUBJECT.
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 9:37 PM GMT
I've been off the sauce since Hogmanay but got some on for Mr Trump.

What are these Women protesting about when Mrs May will be first in the Whitehouse?

For Goodness sake!
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 9:38 PM GMT
He was put to death by crucifixion, and then placed in a tomb. His followers were crushed and fearful that the same thing would happen to them, and so for the next few days they did their best to stay out of the way of anyone who might link them with their now dead rabbi.

But something happened that changed everything.

Without warning, the Jewish carpenter’s unknown twin brother appeared on the scene, stole and then disposed of his dead sibling’s body. With the tomb now empty, the twin claimed to be his dead brother resurrected from the dead. So convincing was the twin that he was able to win over his dead brother’s disciples and even some others who thought his brother was a fake. These individuals immediately began to publicly proclaim that their teacher had been raised from the dead by God and started a religious movement that continues to this day.


This is the true story and history behind Easter.

- From a chapter in the New Testament .. I forget which one, but proof that there were definitely two Jesus-ers.
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 9:39 PM GMT
http://www.christianity.com/bible/authorship-and-inspiration/who-decided-what-went-into-the-bible.html

CURSORY WEB SEARCH...!
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 9:40 PM GMT
Mmh, have you ever prayed to Him?

I feel not.
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 9:41 PM GMT
Which one?
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 9:41 PM GMT
Vel, I'll pray for you tonioght.

You too, aka Happy
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 9:43 PM GMT

Jan 22, 2017 -- 3:41PM, Make my hay wrote:


Which one?


Refer to the Fred topic

Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 9:43 PM GMT
Watch the film RISEN from 2016...Joseph Fiennes -

Read EVIDENCE THAT DEMANDS A VERDICT by JOSH MCDOWELL.

You get new garbage springing up every week about Jesus and the Bible...like Dan Brown, these people are hucksters out to make money.
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 9:44 PM GMT
Ta, Trilby.
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 9:45 PM GMT
at school I prayed to their dad.
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 9:45 PM GMT
Vel, the Lord lives in our heart.

seek & find, Mmh
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 9:46 PM GMT
Make My Hay is only really funny when he's posting about Claudia Winkleman's eyes...Laugh
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 9:47 PM GMT
Laugh
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 9:49 PM GMT
Or is that Claudia Winkelman? Maybe there are two Claudias...
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 9:49 PM GMT
Better than Gary Gilmour's I guess.
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 9:49 PM GMT
Claudia Winkelmen
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 9:50 PM GMT
Your WINKLEMAN'S EYES is in my top 10 threads on Betfair...I'll have you know that...Grin
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 9:51 PM GMT
you have a good memory Velasquez   Laugh
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 9:52 PM GMT
If there are 2 of her then she must have at least 4 upside down eyes...
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 9:53 PM GMT
Hey...or rather, HAY! - How can I forget! Cry
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 9:53 PM GMT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Gilmore
Report akabula • January 22, 2017 9:56 PM GMT
Vel I know. I asked the question because it was a question I asked my local minister.
I've also read articles on the matter. My minister eventually ended with something about belief. Sad
But to me it comes down to man having wrote the accounts and man deciding what went in and what didn't.
Anything else is window dressing.
The story of Jesus is a good story and living a 'christian' life is a good thing but the word of god. Makes me laugh.
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 9:56 PM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv2EIaSnlcY
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 9:57 PM GMT
Gaye AdvertLove
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 9:59 PM GMT
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/04/actress-marilu-henners-rare-super-memory-recalls-every-day-of-her-life/

MAKE MY HAY - MARILU HENNER FROM TAXI...Shocked

PERFECT MEMORY...
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 10:01 PM GMT
i'll b back

g'nite Happy
Report annie. • January 22, 2017 10:02 PM GMT
Agree, akabula.

I adore the sayings of 'jesus' - 'let who is without sin cast the first stone', 'go and sin no more' etc etc but he was not the son of 'god'.  There is no god and if there was one he is a horrible twisted evil son of a bitch, and obviously a man Silly
Report akabula • January 22, 2017 10:03 PM GMT
G'night trilby.
May Mark Warburton look after you and keep you safe. Amen.
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 10:04 PM GMT
aka & annie.

the gate is narrow & few find it.

Check out John Bunyun
Report akabula • January 22, 2017 10:05 PM GMT
and obviously a man

Laugh Love it annie.
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 10:06 PM GMT
John Bunyan - The Pilgrim's Progrss
Report akabula • January 22, 2017 10:06 PM GMT
We welcome the chase.
Bill Struth, the one true God.
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 10:07 PM GMT
Y'all just don't understand the immensity of Jesus.
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 10:08 PM GMT
Well, He is available to all who seek Him, ya know?
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 10:08 PM GMT
John Bunyan - The Pilgrim's Progress.....with etchings by Scotland's own William Strang.
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 10:10 PM GMT
Bill Struth is Duncan Norvelle...Laugh
Report trilby22 • January 22, 2017 10:10 PM GMT
My mother preferred Gielgood's reading of it.

G'nite all & God Bless Love
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 10:12 PM GMT
has Jesus got access to the internet?
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 10:16 PM GMT
Does he really need it? Laugh
Report akabula • January 22, 2017 10:17 PM GMT
Omnipresent seemingly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avP-8i_YEO8
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 10:20 PM GMT
Velasquez I wouldn't want to be married to Marilu Henner she'd be bringing up conversations you had about 20 years ago just to prove that she's right about something or other.Sad
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 10:22 PM GMT
LaughLaugh
Report Ovalman. • January 22, 2017 10:23 PM GMT
God has been pretty quiet for 2,000 years despite fire and brimstone for the 2,000 years before that.

Am I missing something?
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 10:29 PM GMT
I think if Jesus had a PC it would make life a lot easier for him, he'd be able to organise  the billions of prayers he gets every day, put them in some sort of order, then answer them later if he gets around to it.
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 10:33 PM GMT
"You sided with Ralph and Dave, the Mercedes salesman wearing navy blue suits and red ties, you went against me, at 1407 hours that afternoon in Chicago, on the 24th of May, 2005, after we  finished the chicken biryani at The Kashmir Palace at 1346 hours, you bastirt! You knew I preferred the Porsche!" Angry
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 10:33 PM GMT
He is Omnipresent so maybe he's on the internet.
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 10:34 PM GMT
"Am I missing something? "

Yes.
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 10:34 PM GMT
Laugh yeah I definitely don't want her in my life.
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 10:35 PM GMT
Jesus are you there?.....
Report akabula • January 22, 2017 10:36 PM GMT
Velasquez
Watch the film RISEN from 2016...Joseph Fiennes -
Read EVIDENCE THAT DEMANDS A VERDICT by JOSH MCDOWELL.
You get new garbage springing up every week about Jesus and the Bible...like Dan Brown, these people are hucksters out to make money
.

And of course the Christian religions are paupers with their preachers and hierarchy all living in bedsits.
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 10:37 PM GMT
Maybe he's on all forums across the whole world simultaneously chatting away.
Report akabula • January 22, 2017 10:38 PM GMT
"Am I missing something? "

Yes.


Vel missed out Brainwashing!
Report akabula • January 22, 2017 10:40 PM GMT
Maybe he's on all forums across the whole world simultaneously chatting away.

Maybe MMH he's the b4st4rd that was getting everyone banned.
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 10:41 PM GMT
"George Müller cared for 10,000 orphaned children in Bristol during the 19th Century. He never made appeals for money, trusting implicitly in God, he received £1,500,000 in answer to prayer. At present day prices, this would be well over £86,000,000."


If I recall it correctly, he died with about a tenner in the bank as every penny was accounted for and spent on welfare.

STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS...GEORGE MULLER OF BRISTOL.
Report akabula • January 22, 2017 10:43 PM GMT
Fairytale Laugh
Report Make my hay • January 22, 2017 10:43 PM GMT
Maybe MMH he's the b4st4rd that was getting everyone banned. I reckon he grassed Ron up.Angry
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 10:44 PM GMT
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 10:45 PM GMT
RANGERS -- POVERTY...Grin
Report Velasquez • January 22, 2017 10:47 PM GMT
You only won the league because of big Marvin's prayers...Grin
Report akabula • January 22, 2017 11:20 PM GMT
Right I'm off.
Good night and Warburton bless you all.
Report Breedingmad • January 22, 2017 11:29 PM GMT
Reach out and touch me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpYW3qng78E
Report zorrostrikes • January 23, 2017 7:52 AM GMT
yep - one guy that fulfilled 300 old testament prophecies.
that's a guy that i need to get advice about a lucky fifteen from -

born of a virgin - (700 bc)
Isaiah 7:14 – “All right then, the Lord Himself will choose the sign. Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son and will call Him Immanuel – ‘God is with us.’”

born in Bethlehem -     Micah 5:2 – “But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, are only a small village in Judah. Yet a ruler of Israel will come from you, one whose origins are from the distant past.”

The Messiah Will Enter Jerusalem Triumphantly

    Zechariah 9:9 – “Rejoice greatly, O people of Zion! Shout in triumph, O people of Jerusalem! Look, your king is coming to you. He is righteous and victorious, yet he is humble, riding on a donkey – even on a donkey’s colt.”

The Messiah Will Be Rejected By His Own People

    Isaiah 53:1, 3 – “Who has believed our message? To whom will the Lord reveal His saving power? He was despised and rejected – a man of sorrows, acquainted with bitterest grief. We turned our backs on Him and looked the other way when He went by. He was despised, and we did not care.”

The Messiah Will Be Betrayed By One Of His Followers

    Psalm 41:9 – “Even my close friend, whom I trusted, he who shared my bread, has lifted up his heel against me.” (NIV)

The Messiah Will Be Betrayed For 30 Pieces Of Silver

    Zechariah 11:12-13 – “And I said unto them, ‘If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. And the Lord said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was priced at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the Lord.” (KJV)


that's six of the 300 - the page is getting full - the odds of doing them all in a lifetime is insanely long.
Report Foinavon • January 23, 2017 12:27 PM GMT
Zorro, all fiction writers take care to tie up all the loose ends either in the main book or in sequels. Why would you think this should be any different?

You get new garbage springing up every week about Jesus and the Bible

Absolutely true, it's been going on for centuries.
Report zorrostrikes • January 23, 2017 5:02 PM GMT
"There isn't consensus, as the answer depends on the definition of a novel, but Don Quixote, Robinson Crusoe and Moll Flanders are mentioned multiple times as the first fiction novels in Western Literary tradition(1600's). However, The Tale of Genji from Japan predates them all.THE 11TH CENTURY -

Let's look at the bible - penned by inspired authors from 1000 BC and with a coherent message running through all the authors through 1,000 years of writings. All of the old testament books hark to a coming messiah. Isaiah gives a detailed description of him, this passage has said to be instrumental in making a lot of Jews convert to Christianity.(isaih 61) Jeremiah references a messiah. Daniel gives a detailed time when he comes. Micah mentions him. All the old testament books make allusions or give details about the messiah. the famous saying -  "the New Testament is hidden in the Old and the Old is revealed in the New".  (St. Augustine of Hippo) three days in the belly of the whale.
So all the jewish prophets screamed their heads off about a coming messiah - then a guy shows up and changes the world. They're furious with him because he won't destroy evil and take his rightful throne. So they now are still waiting for the right one to come? They thought like men. Jesus thought like God.

now as a story -  a novel at the very least? an ancient text by primitive men. With thousands of other books exploring it's subtext(theology). With a blue letter bible to explore the very words used (oil means holy spirit,). The gematria coding (Mathew gospel and number synchronicity? that explores it's structure. Books exploring it's prophecies(such as a new Israel? with Jerusalem at its heart) It's structural depth which has astounded other authors.

nobody can do this with Harry potter or any other book to the ninth degree.
You can try.. but it does not stand up.

read Isaiah 61 - it was written seven centuries before Jesus. Then ask yourself who is he describing. The old testament was copied to the greek by Ptolomy the second 200 years before Christ.

FICTION is an insult - nobody tells the future in fiction down to the day.

wait- I'm wrong in 700 years, Jesus is on the throne. I just did it.

the Jews are waiting today in the year 5777 on the Jewish calendar for their messiah - 5 means grace, 7 completion, triple completion of grace. The end of the grace covenant left by Jesus.

wait and see, keep delaying your investigation, don't read isaiah 61. don't believe it's your head not mine. Mine is secure - I'm golden. I'm minted. I cannot lose.

nobody can snatch me away from the father. You think you can ignore it? it's coming like a 16 ton weight out of Monte Python. You can dodge it by reading Isaiah 61 or you can be flattened by it.
Report zorrostrikes • January 23, 2017 5:19 PM GMT
rats - mis remembered it's Isaiah 53 - not 61

700 years before Jesus - this was written. translated to greek by Ptolomy in 200 BC.

Isaiah 53
New International Version (NIV)

Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.
Surely he took up our pain and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before
its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.
By oppression and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.
He was assigned a grave with the wicked,and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,nor was any deceit in his mouth.
Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
After he has suffered,he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,and made intercession for the transgressors.
Report zorrostrikes • January 23, 2017 5:22 PM GMT
Each of us has turned to our own way. lost sheep.

nice roast lamb. for the god of this world.

HA ha ha ha - your doomed, capt Mainwaring doomed.
Report M13 • January 23, 2017 5:41 PM GMT
JESUS (LATIN) = HORU + ZEUS. Horus is egyptian diety with the "christ" story (born of a virgin, astrologically destined). Zeus is greek god, the greeks were profound of copying the religious stories and dieties of ancient egyptians. The Holy Bible = Helios Biblios (greek), translated: Sun Book. Your religious book is based on astrology, and it has been edited down to make christendom the dominating religion in the world. The vatican being the richest entity on the planet. Jesus is not even the name of the dark skinned hebrew that was made "christ" by constantine and Eurocentrism. Something like YAHAWASHE. The bible is a masonic text, brought to colored people around the globe by conquesting, caucasoids and albinoids. There are some very deep allegories embedded in the texts, which refer to the hijacking of the Mitochondrial EVE gene, the African gene, and the supplanting of the human race, during a 6000 year period. Adam is Atom, molecules (atoms) that form a RIB shape (DNA) which create EVE. THE NATURAL WOMAN. The EVE gene was intentionally supplanted by the reptile (reptilian race) in the garden of Eden (Ancient Kemet).  YAKUB is an african man that took with him 60000 albinos & lighter colored people to the isle of Patmos, and genetic engineered the Albino race. The bible mentions this specifically through the allegory of sexing spotted and brown (not black) sheep over and over again, to create a sheep devoid of pigment (Genesis 30:25-43). This process is known as skin grafting. GENESIS = The Origins or Coming into Being (existence). The earth is 100's of millions of years old, and the **** Sapien, the Original Human, The Melanated being, has been walking upright for at least 400,000 years
Report zorrostrikes • January 23, 2017 6:26 PM GMT
enjoy the weed.

the jews have this year dated at 5777.
https://www.hebcal.com/hebcal/?year=2017&v=1&month=x&yt=G&nx=on&o=on&vis=on&d=on&c=off&maj=on&min=on&mod=on

greek mythology dates from 1500 BC. the jewish lineage back to Adam goes back to 4000 BC

In Genesis they describe a fall of angels, they bred with the women of that age - they were called the sons of God(nephilim) God saw it as an abomination to man's bloodlines and wiped them out with a flood. From these mighty men of old - the tales of the Greek gods arose.

Hybrid stories are still told today - superman, batman, flash, spiderman - it's still going strong.

The angels that fell lost all their children in the flood. Were not happy about it. how might you feel to see your children wiped out.

today it's being re run - three parent conception, organs from animals - as it was in the time of Noah so shall it be at the end.

time is up - make your excuses or get right with God. dredge up any old excuses you want. You've dismissed your high priest Jesus, who sits at the right side of the judge. You don't have a defence. God's not going to listen to this spurious bull. But God I had no proof.... did you look at the book? did you try to understand it - did you look at the subtext or did you just read the surface meaning? Do you know who the anointed one is?
did you understand what the fig tree was? the Hidden meanings.  Did you try to meet me half way? did you listen to me? no you turned to any old crap to fill your days... Lucifer is on fox if you get Netflix, you can watch it tonight.
Satans so funny.
Report zorrostrikes • January 23, 2017 11:19 PM GMT
The historical evidence for Jesus himself is extraordinarily good. …. From time to time people try to suggest that Jesus of Nazareth never existed, but virtually all historians of whatever background now agree that he did

NT Wright, Oxford & St Andrews Universities, in the Guardian
Report treetop • January 23, 2017 11:40 PM GMT
Fairy stories but you do have to give the guy credit for having a lasting impact.
Report zorrostrikes • January 24, 2017 12:00 AM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bLlpiWh9-k

non biblical evidence
Report zorrostrikes • January 24, 2017 12:01 AM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q_FDL6_rl4

professor Dawkins admits Jesus existed. Historically.
Report zorrostrikes • January 24, 2017 6:35 AM GMT
Joy to the world! The Lord is come;
Let earth receive her King;
Let every heart prepare him room,
And heaven and nature sing,
And heaven and nature sing,
And heaven, and heaven, and nature sing.

Verse 2

Joy to the earth! the savior reigns;
Let men their songs employ;
While fields and floods, rocks, hills, and plains
Repeat the sounding joy,
Repeat the sounding joy,
Repeat, repeat the sounding joy.

Verse 3

No more let sins and sorrows grow,
Nor thorns infest the ground;
He comes to make his blessings flow
Far as the curse is found,
Far as the curse is found,
Far as, far as, the curse is found.

Verse 4

He rules the world with truth and grace,
And makes the nations prove
The glories of his righteousness,
And wonders of his love,
And wonders of his love,
And wonders, wonders, of his love.
Report Make my hay • January 24, 2017 8:22 AM GMT
Donald Trump is the ‘Second Coming of Christ’ 

Joy to the world! Trump is come;
Let earth receive her King;
Let every heart prepare him room,
And heaven and nature sing,
And heaven and nature sing,
And heaven, and heaven, and nature sing.

Verse 2

Joy to the earth! Trump  reigns;
Let men their songs employ;
While fields and floods, rocks, hills, and plains
Repeat the sounding joy,
Repeat the sounding joy,
Repeat, repeat the sounding joy.

Verse 3

No more let sins and sorrows grow,
Nor thorns infest the ground;
Trump  comes to make his blessings flow
Far as the curse is found,
Far as the curse is found,
Far as, far as, the curse is found.

Verse 4

Trump  rules the world with truth and grace,
And makes the nations prove
The glories of his righteousness,
And wonders of his love,
And wonders of his love,
And wonders, wonders, of his love.

- Praise the Lord.
Report lfc1971 • January 24, 2017 8:23 AM GMT
That's a beautiful hymn / carol
no other religion gives us such beautiful music.
Report lfc1971 • January 24, 2017 8:27 AM GMT
I prefer the original lyrics.
Report akabula • January 24, 2017 8:34 AM GMT
He rules the world with truth and grace,
And makes the nations prove
The glories of his righteousness,
And wonders of his love,
And wonders of his love,
And wonders, wonders, of his love.


I wonder if the millions born in Africa just to die a slow and painful death from malnutrition or the millions who die horrible deaths from the likes of cancer will wonder at his love.
I can understand why this nonsense was believed in the dark ages but in these enlightened times it beggars belief.
Report lfc1971 • January 24, 2017 8:38 AM GMT
Without Christianity and the bible would we have had Shakespeare, or Beethoven, or Elvis, or the Rolling Stones, or Motown, or John lee Hooker or Karen Carpenter ?
Probably not.
Report lfc1971 • January 24, 2017 8:42 AM GMT
Without Christianity and the bible would we have had the renaissance in Europe bringing progress in science and art and music and literature and leading eventually to the greatest force for good in history , England.
Report Life-Lucky • January 24, 2017 8:58 AM GMT
IMHO Anybody who dismisses religion in general and Christianity in particular really hasn't thought about life long enough or hard enough IMHO
Report akabula • January 24, 2017 9:00 AM GMT

lfc1971
Without Christianity and the bible would we have had Shakespeare, or Beethoven, or Elvis, or the Rolling Stones, or Motown, or John lee Hooker or Karen Carpenter ?
Probably not


It is not that we have it that I'm against but rather how it is interpreted and presented.
I was taught in Sunday school of an omnipresent loving God.
What we witness in the world every day is at odds with this.

Not sure how you arrive at that view btw. You'll need to explain that in a bit more detail.
Report lfc1971 • January 24, 2017 9:12 AM GMT
Acabula, if Shakespeare had not grown up reading the bible then we wouldn't have had his literary genius, or the incredible depth and number of English writers, or I should say writers in the English language including Scotland , Wales, Ireland, America etc.
Without gospel music there would be no Elvis, or John lee Hooker .and no Beatles or Stones.
and no Karen Carpenter.
Report lfc1971 • January 24, 2017 9:19 AM GMT
You could not have had the literary style of artists like Dylan and Springsteen,  or Dylan Thomas and Wordsworth without the bible.
Report akabula • January 24, 2017 9:26 AM GMT
Again I say that it is not that we have a bible but how we interpret it.
Plus tis our organised religions I oppose as well.
Everything in the bible points to living a life without seeking wealth.
Look at the Vatican, Westminster Cathedral or any of the other 'great' religious buildings.
Hierarchy of the Churches been driven everywhere in top of the range Mercs and etc.
Pure hypocrisy.
Report lfc1971 • January 24, 2017 9:41 AM GMT
I like Westminster Cathedral, in the main Christianity has given us great freedoms, and a peaceful and prosperous society.  I would rather be poor and live on the streets of a Christian country like England or America than any number of others.
Report akabula • January 24, 2017 9:56 AM GMT
I like Westminster Cathedral as well lfc but it flies in the face of the message Jesus gave.
Report Foinavon • January 24, 2017 10:39 AM GMT
Zorro on speed! Give it up man, it's bad for your heart. I leave the room for a few hours and come back to two pages of C+P. I'm not going to plough through all that, good grief.
Report trilby22 • January 24, 2017 12:41 PM GMT
Who inspired the Bible?

The Word of the Lord.

"seek & ye shall find"
Report zorrostrikes • January 24, 2017 12:43 PM GMT
The historical evidence for Jesus himself is extraordinarily good. …. From time to time people try to suggest that Jesus of Nazareth never existed, but virtually all historians of whatever background now agree that he did

NT Wright, Oxford & St Andrews Universities, in the Guardian

nutters who believe that Jesus did not exist..
Ask the emperor Constantine the Great why he became a Christian emperor. 324 AD.
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