Can Sturgeon hold a binding 2nd independence referendum?

Given she's been on the wrong side of the last two referendums (referenda?) she's contested, she doesn't have a (moral) leg to stand on.

Of course that's never stopped her chirruping in the past.

well she won't be getting my vote this time round (I voted for indy) and hopefully some of the other indy voters will realise that breaking away from Europe is more important than breaking up with Britain.

You would rather be ruled by the neo-fascist tories and UKIP Platini? You disappoint me, and I suspect, many of your fellow Tims.

The EU scum have more impact on people's every day lives, than the clowns at Westminster ever did. Globalism is the enemy of the people, not capitalism.

Fk her off to Lamb Island she can have plenty of Independence there....

The perfect distraction for Nicola. Keeps her failings in running her own affairs out of the spotlight.Aye!

Platini - is spot on.  A fair number of YES voters last time round will NOT vote yes again.  Let her have another indy vote and this time when she loses she can then go away for good

What about all the Remain voters who voted No at the last IndyRef? How will they vote if asked again?

It will surely be one of the most peculiar acts of Statespersonship of all time, were Sturgeon to restore the sovereignty of Scotland, only to surrender it a short while later?

I voted INDY 1st time and until a few weeks ago would not have voted again due to immigration rules.I know this won't effect me too much but it will effect the younger Scottish generation.

But now i here of this Basic Income i might be swayed to vote INDY.Free money for all Scots NO BRAINER

she cant hold a vote without westminster consent

The SNP nutters will hold a peaceful protest though and Westminster will fold to all demands

I wonder how the SNP true followers earn money as all they do is march march and march some more

If it's not LGBTI it's about trying to get kids governed by a " named person " or getting LGBTI lessons in School

i wouldnt think it would be too difficult to get permission off pm for referendum

it doesnt look like she would win at the moment , so probably wait until after next election ?

Maybe she would win now

The 1st INDY ref YES voters would be split i would think

But surely all the SNP die hards would vote INDY as they all ant to stay in the EU

Be funny watching this one play out

I wouldn't vote unless like i say the FREE MONEY rule came into place 100% the day after the vote

No even just SNP voters for EU Ref

62% voted to Remain while 38% backed Leave.

Every council i think wanted to stay

Funny old game this

But now i here of this Basic Income i might be swayed to vote INDY.Free money for all Scots NO BRAINER

We're running with a £15 billion deficit currently and yet we announces this. Get votes at any cost is the cry.
Sturgeon has abandoned her responsibilities to govern Scotland by managing it's income to benefit the country as a whole in favour of securing votes and support for indyref2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVy7faNKEtM

It's an irrelevance.  US frackers can make ample money at $55-60 a barrel.  Almost no new fields in the North Sea are profitable at that price. Decommissioning costs are in the £50-60 billion range.  The UK or Scottish govt will be responsible for most of this.  Scottish exports to the rest of the UK are 5x greater than to the EU but she wants to preserve the latter in preference? The SNP are running up big deficits in Scotland, while apparently degrading the education and health systems.  SNP politicians are showing themselves to be as venal, corrupt, sexually dodgy, alcoholically-challenged as any other party - hey, most of them would have joined any other party if they thought there was more in it for them. The Scottish electorate are too smart to vote for poverty and North-Korean-style oblivion. And when it come to 'neverendums', look at Quebec. In Quebec, it caused the most spectacular case of "planning blight" in recent history. The perpetual uncertainty about Quebec's political and economic future drove the corporate headquarters out (they moved to Toronto), and the immigrants and the investment went elsewhere (I quoted the last sentence from a Canadian paper - ta).  And if the Scots ever voted to leave - the English would take out their money and the talent (what's left - note all celebrity Independence supporters live anywhere but Scotland) would go south. Thankfully it's never going to happen.

akabula 18 Jan 17 00:22 Joined: 13 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 23,910 | Blogger: akabula's blog
But now i here of this Basic Income i might be swayed to vote INDY.Free money for all Scots NO BRAINER

We're running with a £15 billion deficit currently and yet we announces this. Get votes at any cost is the cry.
Sturgeon has abandoned her responsibilities to govern Scotland by managing it's income to benefit the country as a whole in favour of securing votes and support for indyref2.


I know AKA but i'm afraid i am in no position to refuse free money

Would they pay my rent also ? I'm in a bit of arrears you see

I think ye'll be okay as wee Nicki has promised Tommy Sheridan a role in the housing department.

Thank you Donny for actually answering my question. So it's a NO then? Sturgeon cannot hold a binding referendum without Westminster's permission? Personally, I cannot see any PM giving that go ahead for generations, who the feck wants to go all through that upheaval again? Oh, yeah, the losers I suppose, same as all the Remainers and Clintonistas.

The youngsters are all SNP lovers so i can't see it changing soon

The new generation are all clueless they think technology in supermarkets and Banks etc is all good well that is gonna cost them jobs in the future.

It's like Jobcentre staff striking people off and now 6 Glasgow Jobcentres are to close.They strike people off without realising they won't be needed it no one is there to sign on.

I hope they people who sanctioned the POOR will find new work

Don't worry about deficits when you can print your own currency you don't even understand the basics of what
money is all about so don't come the I know I voted leave coz I'm cleverer than you you're not!. you're pretty
stupid I reckon your I.Q is average or less but unfortunately people like you can't work out your own finances
and blame the E.U. for everything, you like to make fun of people who know more than you as it makes you feel
good you throw names about but basically have no understanding of anything further than the I won you lost
in a referendum..Unfortunately this Country is full of Nutters like Paul Nuttall who know ........ but as
you have been dragged into the blame game you joined them you are not your own person but a figment of some
person who died years ago but you come back to haunt our Country on the back of fake Nationalistic Rhetoric
You're not English or Scottish or Welsh or Northern Irish you're anti European because they speak a different
Language to you and you won't make an effort to speak their language or understand them you are everything that is bad
in this country you have turned our Country into an embarrassment in Europe and the rest of the World ..Don't
believe your hype it's not here forever it's temporary rubbish and will end up in the bin along with Farage and
his Conservative hangers on Be yourself don't give in to politics and bullshit welcome people you meet and they
will respect you,if you Ignore them and despise  them  don't be surprised if they come back and bite you ..

Respect. Even in my most alcoholically-challenged pomp, I could never have produced a post like that. That's an end-of-worlds ejaculation.

Who was that load of dross addressed to BM.

Is Breedingmad actually Will Self? That massive rambling post of nonsense, tumbling out seemingly without pausing for breath nor punctuation, is one of the most epic seethes I've ever seen on here. Absolute quality. What a numpty.

A prize plum, as Mr Wolf would say.

Do you reckon BM has got voice recognition software, was talking to himself and pressed post reply by mistake?

Ah bodil. So you spend all that effort in telling us how he knows nothing yet have nothing to counter his observations other than childish insults.
It's you that is the embarrassment BM and way out of your league here.

No I'm not the Dragon naturally speaking I'm trying to knock some sense into you all on here
you don't get on with your neighbors if you decide to build a 20 foot wall you talk to them.

BM Reminds me of pushkin on the footie.
Same MO. Loads of insults but nothing in the way of actual facts or opinions in a lot of his responses.

What do you do for a living, BM?

Bm.

Ah, Bm.

Ah.

Actually aka, I don't think he addressed anything in my 'serious' post.  Mainly because he couldn't.  Because it's pretty much set in stone now.  All the Nationalists can do now is waste money.

I make money ,What do you do for a living?

[i]akabula
Ah bodil[/I
Sorry bodil I was answering my own question there

A scaffolder. How exactly do you make money? We all make money. What is your actual job title?

You a printer then BM? Or is it in coin production you work.
Legit or otherwise?

It's none of your business there's a clue

That's nice ain't it! First he says to be neighbourly and talk to people, and when someone tries to chat, show an interest, he's downright rude!

Jeez, anybody would think I asked him for his mother's maiden name and his PIN number!

Torquemada 18 Jan 17 01:55 Joined: 27 Apr 12 | Topic/replies: 888 | Blogger: Torquemada's blog
That's nice ain't it! First he says to be neighbourly and talk to people, and when someone tries to chat, show an interest, he's downright rude!

He got you there BM

Just tell the truth in and out of poxy jobs

Pin number 3210 maiden name Farage

Do you or did you own a Nokia 3210 ?

IQ and shoe size is a poor choice for a PIN if you don't mind me saying, it's guessable.

TheChaser
Do you or did you own a Nokia 3210

If that's a £10 jib that's what I had Chaser
Now got a Samsung. doesn't say anything else on it other than name. Think that was a tenner as well.

Nokia 3210 where about £90 back in late 90s i remeber having one but they got replaced not long after with a 3310 the same but a little smaller.Well known for having the game snake on them and before internet phones.

I have a nokia just that can do a lot more than them and cost me £35 i think never use it anyway hardly not one for texting and phoning people unless it's necessary.I got it when i was on Community Service to pass the time on the internet Na i was really working

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_3210

This one ?

They would have been a tenner or so at one point

Where heavy as fook could have easily knocked someone out it flung at their heid

Mine takes and makes calls and texts and nowt else.

That looks like the Nokia I had and def only cost a tenner.

It would have defo hit the tenner at one stage

As when first out im sure £90ish maybe less tbh but they halved in price when the new model came out the year after so not long to hit the tenner.

Prob be worth more now on ebay it's an Antique

I swapped mine for a bit pot i think

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-NOKIA-3210-MOBILE-PHONE-NSE-8-3210-WORKING-BARGAIN-GUARANTEE-ACCESSORY-/330715653722?ha****m4d0030665a:g:wPcAAOxyuPtRAugc


selling like hot cakes

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNLOCKED-Nokia-3210-mobile-phone-charcoal-grey-new-boxed-any-network-/371830281580?ha****m5692cfd56c:g:6J8AAOSwT5tWMzx9


£150 come on pal play the game

Nicola WEhtsherface cannot hold another referendum   unless our good PM Mrs may grants permission

Bet the Scots git and Fat Matron are eating themselves with fury ..


Good     I laugh at them     

The upside is the little sturg monster gets to slink away and make more noises when she thinks things have gone quiet

Nice to see her bluff being called ....

I know AKA but i'm afraid i am in no position to refuse free money

Would they pay my rent also ? I'm in a bit of arrears you see

I'm sure everyone one on the thread would chip in for you if you promised to stop posting pictures of Sturgeon.

That's your money stopped Chaser. You're left to suck oil out the ground with a straw.

In talks with Strachan seemingly in case Broonie says no again.

As regards indy heres what Salmond said a few years back.

At the conference last week it was announced that start up costs could be as high as £18.8 billion.

You must despair of your fellow Scots akabula. You can imagine how we feel down here.

Breedingmad    18 Jan 17 01:03 
Don't worry about deficits when you can print your own currency you don't even understand the basics of what
money is all about so don't come the I know I voted leave coz I'm cleverer than you you're not!. you're pretty
stupid I reckon your I.Q is average or less but unfortunately people like you can't work out your own finances
and blame the E.U. for everything, you like to make fun of people who know more than you as it makes you feel
good you throw names about but basically have no understanding of anything further than the I won you lost
in a referendum..Unfortunately this Country is full of Nutters like Paul Nuttall who know ........ but as
you have been dragged into the blame game you joined them you are not your own person but a figment of some
person who died years ago but you come back to haunt our Country on the back of fake Nationalistic Rhetoric
You're not English or Scottish or Welsh or Northern Irish you're anti European because they speak a different
Language to you and you won't make an effort to speak their language or understand them you are everything that is bad
in this country you have turned our Country into an embarrassment in Europe and the rest of the World ..Don't
believe your hype it's not here forever it's temporary rubbish and will end up in the bin along with Farage and
his Conservative hangers on Be yourself don't give in to politics and bullshit welcome people you meet and they
will respect you,if you Ignore them and despise  them  don't be surprised if they come back and bite you ..




I hope this idiot is suitably embarrassed for posting this inarticulate grammatically bucket load of old $hite

bodil    18 Jan 17 01:09 
Respect. Even in my most alcoholically-challenged pomp, I could never have produced a post like that. That's an end-of-worlds ejaculation.


I have to say this did make me laugh out loud


As for the scots let them have a vote sooner rather than later, once they lose she may then do the  one decent thing & resign.

We've had our vote and she and everybody else should respect the majority result.

Besides if we did leave the UK we'd be stuffed anyway. Price of crude has almost halved since the referendum and the EU have made it plain they wouldn't let us join as an independent. We'd be another Greece IMO

Nationalism can be a dangerous thing and Theresa May is using it Politically ,red white and blue Brexit
sums up what we have and the dangerous direction the country is heading in.

i voted out of the UK. but I lost the vote. So I am part of the UK.
i voted out of the EU. I won. So the UK voted out of the EU.

Nicola says the Majority of Scotland voted to stay in the EU. But Scotland is only part of the UK, we decided that. Can We break down Scotland further into pockets of smaller independence, can I break from Scotland because I voted out of the EU.

We voted as a collective - millions of people, not four nations. We are part of the UK. Every election before 2000 Scotland voted Labour - we didn't always get a Labour government. We voted - our votes were counted. the end.

Nicola Fk off - i'm not voting again. try again in 25 years if you are still here.

Or.  Does she whinge and whinge and whinge. Threatening this and that as hard as she can.  Then people get fed up with the whiner and like giving in to a child, you give it what it wants.  A tactic. Yes/No??

She seems to get disproportionate media coverage when you consider what her job actually entails.

Don't you guys understand ...she's a phucking Krankie !

At First Minister's Questions, Ms Sturgeon said she was "determined to save Scotland from Brexit".

God help us

She's not a sane human being. Makes Trump seem well balanced.

Leaving the EU is a bad thing for Scotland yet leaving the UK which does 4 times the trade with Scotland thnt the EU does is a good thing.
strange thinking.

Remember PROJECT FEAR?
The SNP used the phrase at every turn in the lead up to the indy vote.
Now they are telling us that leaving the EU will cost jobs, wages and hit our GDP.
Not trying to instil fear though and not hypocritical either, no never that.

Project Paradise where is this taking us?

That smug ar&&hole from the SNP on This Week again :(
I think Andrew Neil is far too easy on him, he talks total BS every time he opens his mouth. (

Watching this currently on PC.
Nicholson decrying May for her speech and saying it was disrespectable to Scotland.
This despite the fact he and his party have been decrying May for not making a speech and letting us know her plans.
How can their supporters not see through the duplicity of this cult?

The EU delegates whilst offering some criticisms generally welcomed May's speech and respect for each others needs seems to be the way the ongoing talks and subsequently negotiations are heading.
Yet the SNP have not had one positive thing to say about it.
Cult by definition and cult by nature.

Akabula why are you so worried?, Democracy is infallible if leave won then it is the correct decision. Democracy has never been wrong any
time in history.Relax you won sit back enjoy the future you voted for.

listen , listen - our forefathers were right... ban women from office.

the iron lady, the krankie,,, FFS ... they are bonkers.

Am i a sexist?
or am I playing the immune response game, riling up the women more so that they completely take over? Could I be a double agent.

The windae man aint no indy fan.

Have you been reading the Bible again?