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I've been out of the UK for the past nine years thus have no personal knowledge of experience of the rise in use of these employment contracts.
From the little that I do know, there does appear to be a legitimate place for them in the employment market but they also appear ripe for exploitation by vile employers.
What say the forum ?
From the little that I do know, there does appear to be a legitimate place for them in the employment market but they also appear ripe for exploitation by vile employers.
What say the forum ?
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I say, they provide false employment statistics that current governments use for their own advantage, but in general offer no stability / sense of security for the employee, a clear exploitation from the employer and the politicians, they should be made illegal.
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here here
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Agreed.
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Due to my current line of work I know a lot of people who have agreed to a zero-hour contract. The problem I see all the time is that they can get a call, first thing in the morning, to be told not to come in... and then they hear nothing more for a week or so. As SH rightly points out, they should not be legal as it gives the worker zero hours and zero rights.
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Aspro i also see it everyday in my place/line of work. A lot of the sales staff are zero hours and if they are not hitting targets they get no hours(salaried staff get months and months of retraining etc and lots of support)and imho this is constructive dismissal.They are given the off peak shifts as well which makes it harder to hit targets and there was even a time where they changed the commission system and most of the staff lost their commission and went to HR and the salaried workers got theirs back but the key time/zero hours didn't and got told if you don't like it f**k off basically.
I moved companies after seeing this practice but i quickly realized that they are all the same and i am just lucky to be a salaried member of staff. I have seen numerous very talanted staff hitting every target for months/years on end and then speaking out about something and getting all the graveyard shifts and missing the target maybe 2 months in a row and being told there is no hours available etc even though they are interviewing new starters etc. Then people say well why wouldn't they want a good member of staff, they want yes men, people who wont say anything when they take 75% of bonuses away etc and will just accept it, also the revolving door system suits them because new starts come in buzzing and do well for a few months and then fade alittle or take a few knocks and lose enthusiasm. Zero hour contracts stink and should be banned. |
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Zero hours contracts are an example of why trade unions were invented.
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too many workers, it's inevitable.
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aided by the Labour Party and unions
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I think it is an excellent idea. Employers(if you can call them that) do very well. I like the idea of a passive workforce.
If you don't want to turn up with a vague promise of 4 hours - then you are out ho ho ho. Million or two already on them coupled with the gangs of workers squashed into accommodation whilst earning below minumum wage and the media trying to screw the unions so workforce is completely weak, along with the tory lot - what's not to like the easterners will also give you guidance on slave labour stocking your nail bars and clip joints with staff indian and chinese restaurants stuffed with illegals who you can threaten if they don't go along with it all we are doing well aren't we??? |
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So not a lot of love for zero hours contracts on here then.
Looks like they have been used increasingly following the 2007/8 financial crisis. I must say, my socialist principals tell me that they are open to exploitation by unscrupulous employers and require to be significantly restricted in their use. Sadly, this is unlikely to happen any time soon. |
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BBC on Zero Hour contracts this morning...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38466257 |
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"Power To The People" from the Tooting Popular Front ......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMKsR_wUSfA |
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The widespread use of zero hours contracts and the de unionising of the workforce shows how ineffective the labour movement has become in the UK.
So for all these highly paid politicians in the labour party, and all their party workers and supporters on councils up and down the country, along with the left-wing media activist, just exactly what are they trying to achieve? And more importantly for whom? They're more interested in keeping immigration high and sending aid to other countries than looking after the people who support them and keep them in comfortable jobs. It's about time the workforce in this country stepped back and looked at the kinds of people who pretend to have their interests at heart. They might learn something about them. |
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Hard for the labour movement to have any power when the policy is the keep a "float" of a couple of million unemployed who can be forced to work if necessary. Just make sure you give them enough to stop them starving or dying of exposure
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loads on zero hours in the labour party and its researchers etc
pure capitalist exploitation just like the gangs - all the poles being bused into sandwich making factories jobs for foreign construction companies in the UK only for foreigners excluding people who don't speak polish IN THE UK and the lovely traffickers from eastern europe the Thais and Vietnamese pot growers what more is there to come syrian camel herders??? |