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casemoney
05 Dec 16 12:52
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She found "high levels of social and economic isolation in some places, and cultural and religious practices in communities that are not only holding some of our citizens back but run contrary to British values and sometimes our laws".

Her report highlighted the plight of women in some Muslim communities, who she said were less likely to speak English and more likely to be kept at home.

Afraid of being dubbed racist, afraid of losing support, afraid of challenging minority communities - that is Dame Louise Casey's view of Britain's decision-makers.

4.1m
population increase 2001-11
50%+
of the increase is due to immigration

27% of births in 2014 were to mothers born outside the UK

New immigrants could have to swear "an oath of integration with British values and society"


For all the Luvvies that think Immigration is Working  ,ITS NOT

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By:
saddo
When: 05 Dec 16 13:08
27% of births in 2014 were to mothers born outside the UK


That is quite an eye opener.
By:
casemoney
When: 05 Dec 16 13:12
70-85% of the populations in some wards in Blackburn, Birmingham, Burnley and Bradford are Muslim

Soon to be 100% as those non muslims leave , those that can afford to Sad
By:
casemoney
When: 05 Dec 16 13:17
Needs to be a Benefit cap introduced on how many Kids the state will pay for,with a massive proportion of these people not working and Just banging out Kids ,the ecconomoic Burden will be absolutely massive Going Forward ..
By:
casemoney
When: 05 Dec 16 13:25
On another Point Going Forward Where are all these people Going to Live ,there is a shortage of housing as it is ,The word Disastrous does not cover the Immigration Policies that have been used by Britain..
By:
mememe
When: 05 Dec 16 13:49
Unfortunately, I'm now (very sadly) relying on the rise of the right to protect my culture.

Our politicians have let us down disastrously - and I'm not proud of my feelings now.

But we have to say stop somehow.
By:
smartie3
When: 05 Dec 16 14:52
what always makes me laugh is when the say the country has benefitted from immigration.. HOW!
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 05 Dec 16 15:11

Dec 5, 2016 -- 7:49AM, mememe wrote:


Unfortunately, I'm now (very sadly) relying on the rise of the right to protect my culture.Our politicians have let us down disastrously - and I'm not proud of my feelings now.But we have to say stop somehow.


It's a b1tch isn't it?

Nothing would ever drive me into the arms of the Right - racism is wrong, full stop.

I can thoroughly understand though how people feel utterly let down by democracy and that, even when voting in a binding referendum, have their motives and what they voted for called into question (at best) and ignored (which seems eminently possible).

By:
lfc1971
When: 05 Dec 16 15:28
forget the nonsense of considering yourself to be English or British. When a country gives away its citizenship too freely then these terms are meaningless. To consider yourself part of a country you have to, at least more or less, believe in the values and culture and religious and political beliefs of that country.
In England there will be thousands, millions of people with whom you will have no common ground on the most basic and
vital principles.
If you were to understand what they believe and the sort of society they would wish to create it would be quite startling. almost unbelievable.
no do not consider yourself to be English or British, or to have any duty or responsibility in that way.
By:
lfc1971
When: 05 Dec 16 15:37
what people don't understand about democracy is that it depends on segregation, it is impossible to have democracy or nation states without segregation. Why? because people believe different things.
some of the things that people believe you wouldn't believe :)
By:
Injera
When: 05 Dec 16 15:37
Globalisation - dilute all existing strong cultures with mass immigration.

It removes all traces of national identity.

Therefore to be British is to be Muslim. The Right have been warning us for years but we were so scared of being called racist we didn't listen.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 05 Dec 16 15:39
apparently the women in these northern slums are so insular that up to 75% of them actually think the UK is a muslim country.
By:
lfc1971
When: 05 Dec 16 15:41
The problem will arise simply because not all cultures are nice, some are and some come close to being beautiful, Japan for one ?
However many more are barbaric and produce nothing but fear and repression.
By:
mememe
When: 05 Dec 16 15:45
rogertb

just to clarify my brief comment.

I abhor racism. Judgement based on colour of skin is just wrong and illogical.

But we need to get a grip on sub cultures and stop minorities oppressing their own and threatening us and our traditions.

Stop "faith" schools for a start - WTF ... mumbo jumbo medieval nonsense ... CofE, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim etc ... poor kids being brainwashed by bigoted adults
By:
bix
When: 05 Dec 16 15:47
She found "high levels of social and economic isolation in some places, and cultural and religious practices in communities that are not only holding some of our citizens back but run contrary to British values and sometimes our laws"

Her report highlighted the plight of women in some Muslim communities, who she said were less likely to speak English and more likely to be kept at home.

Afraid of being dubbed racist, afraid of losing support, afraid of challenging minority communities - that is Dame Louise Casey's view of Britain's decision-makers.


She could have discovered all this 20 years ago.

I can remember going into an "anorak factory" about 1985 which was entirely staffed by asian women. The guy in charge (asian) had to unlock the doors to let us in and locked them all in again when we left. Purely for their benefit of course.
By:
postmannick
When: 05 Dec 16 16:00
whatever is done now will be to little to late we have enough hear now to take over our once great country even if no more are let in
By:
donny osmond
When: 05 Dec 16 16:24
seems to be a government backed report into intergration not immigration

seems you boys are jumping the gun
By:
postmannick
When: 05 Dec 16 16:26
i live in Birmingham so can see whats happening at first hand
By:
Just Checking
When: 05 Dec 16 16:46
BBC item today was on a single street that had five mosques in a row, cheek by jowl... Jesus Christ! (He says with a touch of sarcasm Devil.)
By:
Breedingmad
When: 05 Dec 16 16:47
A lot of Cherry picking going on in original postLaugh
By:
wit-ham
When: 05 Dec 16 17:13
Yep they need the cherry picker to get to the top of the minaret
By:
1st time poster
When: 05 Dec 16 17:27
started a shutdown this morning polish ,latvian,romainian,french,english was about the 4th language,always say morning to who ever passes me but most of these people look at you ,wondering how you got of the bottom of their shoe,nothing like feeling uncomfortable 2 miles from your front door, chucking fuming, CryCry
By:
donny osmond
When: 05 Dec 16 17:43
what is your first language ?
By:
1st time poster
When: 05 Dec 16 18:15
blue
By:
casemoney
When: 05 Dec 16 18:44
Breeding mad prob the most apt words  on this thread Laugh

Coz that all half of them Do Grin
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 05 Dec 16 18:59
his Imam told him to use that name
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 05 Dec 16 20:04
Strange as it seems, I think some of the problems are caused by the BBC/C4 and other "organisations" that use discrimination to mend discrimination.
In the first place it didn't need mending all that much, it's just the ex-media studies students who create and support minority things and come up with "Black awards" for nearly everything, "Black season" on TV, The same for "Asian" and "Muslim" they who also get offended on behalf of black and Asians who aren't actually remotely offended by nearly all the things the 'offence' is being supposedly felt by. Then there's the dedicated TV and radio channels. Add to this the quota of "ethnic minorities" which is on every ad, or sport, news or panel show. (If only they could find a black or Asian superstar snooker player).

Especially Radio 5 live, the most PC of them all.... There would be nothing more grist for their mill than someone eating a Banana at a premiership match, that'd keep them in righteous indignation for 3 days!

Anyway, in the end loads of people get fed up with the "unfairness to all minorities" being pushed at them all the time and end up resenting the ones getting the unreasonable attention.

So, I would say more grief is caused than relieved.
By:
donny osmond
When: 05 Dec 16 20:07
they want to get them watchin bbc and not them foreign channels innit
By:
saddo
When: 05 Dec 16 20:13
Good post studyform, not a fan of positive discrimination and I agree with all of that, especially Radio 5.
By:
mobo
When: 05 Dec 16 22:58
just on sky

we may find muslims with the full face covering difficult-

what on earth  = they **** foot around - that's even the survey chief - you see - when it comes to the community we must not offend - we use another language

why doesn't she say -  it just isn't on - we don't live in an islamic society

but then there are too many interests at risk here aren't there?  like votes
By:
mobo
When: 05 Dec 16 23:00
postymanic  - thats just it - most commentators - especially the journos - just don't see everyday life

check out some west london high streets or the bull ring in brum

but they aren't touched by it are they

not the ones who appear on your tv sets every day
By:
mobo
When: 05 Dec 16 23:03
the people who protect them are the most immediate danger to the changing of our society from one of 'secularlism' to one of islam.
By:
mobo
When: 05 Dec 16 23:04
they are more concerned about vegan fivers and eric bristow than  the islamification of the uk
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