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Report akabula November 27, 2016 2:38 PM GMT
Good on him. Disobeying his team Laugh The same team that has tried to scupper his chances all season.
Report akabula November 27, 2016 2:39 PM GMT
Mercedes team radio
Posted at 14:36

Mercedes executive director (technical) Paddy Lowe: "Lewis, this is Paddy we need you to pick up the pace right now to win this race."

Hamilton: "I am comfortable where I am."

Lowe looks down at the floor. This is all between the drivers now


LaughLaughLaugh good on you Lewis.
Report akabula November 27, 2016 2:42 PM GMT
Team radio
Posted at 14:28

Mercedes race engineer: "OK Lewis, this is an instruction - we need 1.45.1 for the win."

Hamilton: "I suggest you guys let us race."



An earlier 'request'. In other words FO. Laugh
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! November 27, 2016 2:42 PM GMT
t o s s e r

HAMILTON

WD NICO Rosberg

CHAMPION

Laugh
Report Burton-Brewers November 27, 2016 2:43 PM GMT
I think he may be looking for another team
Report Biscar Two from a mile back November 27, 2016 2:44 PM GMT
Who won the race did Hamilton brake before the line ?
Report donny osmond November 27, 2016 2:45 PM GMT
good luck to lewis getting the full support of the team next season


rosberg somply had to let vettel through and lewis would have speeded up


c4 making a boring two horse race seem exciting
Report akabula November 27, 2016 2:48 PM GMT
good luck to lewis getting the full support of the team next season

I think the problem was that he felt he didn't have their full support this season.
Report Burton-Brewers November 27, 2016 2:51 PM GMT
aka the bloke has disrupted every team he has been in, the sponsors give the money to the teams not individuals.
Report tictacman1 November 27, 2016 2:52 PM GMT
Nigel Mansell CBE
nigelmansell

I am a sportsman no I would not do this thank you
2:39 p.m. - 27 November 2016
Report akabula November 27, 2016 2:54 PM GMT
Still doesn't explain what happened to him this season BB.
Report donny osmond November 27, 2016 2:55 PM GMT
finnished second in a two horse race, great stuff
Report akabula November 27, 2016 2:58 PM GMT
Would have won comfortably but for a few f*ck ups by his team.
Report donny osmond November 27, 2016 3:01 PM GMT
but didnt

well done nico
Report wit-ham November 27, 2016 3:13 PM GMT
Nearly never won the race
Report dustybin November 27, 2016 3:13 PM GMT
I dont know whether he feels like a winner tbh
His mrs looks a dead ringer for victoria aitkenShocked
Report The Leopard November 27, 2016 3:16 PM GMT
Lewis should have let Rosberg get close then he may have made a mistake on over-taking.
Report scandanavian_haven November 27, 2016 3:21 PM GMT
The only reason why Rosberg won was because Lewis had so many inexplicable mechanical problems, someone did not want him to win.

F1 fans know who the real winner is, the people's champion, the moral winner.
Report the.mad.dog.man November 27, 2016 3:23 PM GMT
hope they sack hamilton then lets see if he can win a race
Report Ramruma November 27, 2016 3:30 PM GMT
Stupid thing was that as donny osmond said, if Rosberg had let himself be overtaken, Hamilton would have had to speed up because he needed to win the race. Rosberg could then have pottered about in third to be world champion.

What Hamilton should have done was blast out in front and win by half the track -- that would have been a bigger FU to Rosberg.
Report A_T November 27, 2016 3:48 PM GMT
another mealy-mouthed racist thread
Report Platini November 27, 2016 3:53 PM GMT
Hamilton came 2nd in a 2 horse race, in other words, LAST LaughLaugh
Report the.mad.dog.man November 27, 2016 3:54 PM GMT
Laugh
Report Knight Commander November 27, 2016 3:56 PM GMT
Doesn't Hamilton have about 3 years to go of a 5 year contract?
Report TheChaser November 27, 2016 3:57 PM GMT
no wonder he is gutted
Report kincsem November 27, 2016 4:19 PM GMT
Thread title is missing the word little.
Report scandanavian_haven November 27, 2016 4:30 PM GMT
another mealy-mouthed racist thread



yep, none of them have the bottle to come out and say it though, typical keyboard warrior types, I feel sorry for them, Hamilton unlike Rosberg, came from a tougher background and deserves what he's got, Rosberg has always had it laid on a plate for him.
Report TheChaser November 27, 2016 4:41 PM GMT
Did Hammy have his dog with him at the TracksLaugh
Report lfc1971 November 27, 2016 4:55 PM GMT
What makes a noble way of thinking? The British no longer know as we can see with Hamilton, his inadequacy is there for the world to see.
Report gilbzy November 27, 2016 6:24 PM GMT
Fair play to Rosberg , the pressure was big and he is a worthy champ. Reckon he'll really shine next year and may well win again.

I'd still have done what Hamilton did though..Devil
Report 1st time poster November 27, 2016 6:36 PM GMT
f1 makes mick macmanus and gaint haystacks look credible sporting icons
Report Racingqueen November 27, 2016 6:44 PM GMT
Hamilton did the
Report Racingqueen November 27, 2016 6:46 PM GMT
Hamilton did the right thing. Its called racing ffs. F1 is the only sport where tactics are criticized.

Delighted Rosberg won as LH seems an absolute c**t off the track
Report Burton-Brewers November 27, 2016 7:01 PM GMT
Lewis will be well chuffed someone has called him a moral winner, definitely a first that one.
Report ebulGery November 27, 2016 7:44 PM GMT
Hamilton is second in the World Championship, that is no mean feat.

There is little between Rosberg and Hamilton...at different times this season both have been the faster driver

Because the team is German there is always the thought that the team favours Rosberg, but there is no evidence of this?

Well done Rosberg for winning the World championship.
Report ebulGery November 27, 2016 7:46 PM GMT
As often happens in F1, the fastest car often dominates, at the moment that looks like Mercedes.
Report donny osmond November 27, 2016 7:52 PM GMT
channel 4 showed a montage of lewis's botched starts this season

maybe he blames mercedes for those, but ......
Report ebulGery November 27, 2016 7:52 PM GMT
I see Hamilton tried to slow the race down, hoping others drivers would pass Rosberg,  was this sportsmanlike?

It was the only thing Hamilton could do to win the World championship.
Report ebulGery November 27, 2016 8:01 PM GMT
The trouble is most most teams have a number one and number two driver.

Mercedes are running two number one drivers, this will of course cause inevitable friction.

Neither of their drivers would want to leave Mercedes while they have the fastest car.
Report TheChaser November 27, 2016 8:04 PM GMT
It was the only thing Hamilton could do to win the World championship.


He could have waited on him catch and run him of the road if he had real brass balls

Report akabula November 28, 2016 9:41 PM GMT
scandanavian_haven

The only reason why Rosberg won was because Lewis had so many inexplicable mechanical problems, someone did not want him to win.
F1 fans know who the real winner is, the people's champion, the moral winner.


We don't often agree Scandi but in the main I agree with this.
No matter what btw I'll always support a British competitor against any foreigner.
Report akabula November 28, 2016 9:44 PM GMT
One thing that I think this has highlighted is the problem with the team system.
Should only be technical and race info passed to the drivers and not instructions other than calling in for a pit stop.
Report ebulGery November 28, 2016 9:56 PM GMT
I think Mercedes are going to leave this for the moment....

Both their drivers are evenly matched and ultra competitive.
Report guinness2dear November 28, 2016 9:57 PM GMT
He's a coont
Report donny osmond November 28, 2016 9:58 PM GMT
it brit in a foreign team

shirley you should be cheering on the brit teams
Report donny osmond November 28, 2016 9:59 PM GMT
* a brit
Report akabula November 28, 2016 10:01 PM GMT
This was a 2 horse race to the championship between a British driver and a foreign driver.
I hope that explains it Donny.
Report donny osmond November 28, 2016 10:03 PM GMT
it does aka

Mischief

CoolCool
Report ebulGery November 28, 2016 10:04 PM GMT
Laugh
Report donny osmond November 28, 2016 10:05 PM GMT
when they did the interviews afterwards, vettel shone through as understanding everything

he seems a top bloke, must have some british blood in there

Cool
Report EvgenyKissin November 28, 2016 10:06 PM GMT
There was some talk about Verstappen getting the job but he must be mid forties now. I remember fuel going all over his car once in the pits and an almighty blaze ensued - think it was at Hockenheim, maybe 1994.
Report TheChaser November 28, 2016 10:07 PM GMT
Damon Hill was best no one will ever come near him with Muzza in Commo box
Report guinness2dear November 28, 2016 10:08 PM GMT
His SON EG, or ye just netted a biggun
Report donny osmond November 28, 2016 10:11 PM GMT
jackie stewart and graham hill on sports personality
night was a classic , two top drivers
Report EvgenyKissin November 28, 2016 10:16 PM GMT
Sorry, Guinness. I stopped following after Damon really. It was awful when Senna died - remember that horrible weekend. Barichello almost died on the Friday, Ratzenberger died on the Saturday ad we all know what happened on the Sunday.

Remember Verstappen driving for the Benneton team after Patrese retired I think.
Report akabula November 28, 2016 10:16 PM GMT
If Andy hadn't had such a great year I'd have voted for Lewis as BBC Sports Personality of the Year.
Report TheChaser November 28, 2016 10:18 PM GMT
Why did Damon Hill move teams after he won the world champs ?
Report TheChaser November 28, 2016 10:19 PM GMT
EvgenyKissin 28 Nov 16 22:16 Joined: 24 Jun 11 | Topic/replies: 3,194 | Blogger: EvgenyKissin's blog
Sorry, Guinness. I stopped following after Damon really. It was awful when Senna died - remember that horrible weekend. Barichello almost died on the Friday, Ratzenberger died on the Saturday ad we all know what happened on the Sunday.

Remember Verstappen driving for the Benneton team after Patrese retired I think.



Fck me never knew someone died the day before Senna
Report EvgenyKissin November 28, 2016 10:32 PM GMT
Joined: 23 May 12 | Topic/replies: 35,535 | Blogger: TheChaser's blog

Why did Damon Hill move teams after he won the world champs ?


During the Williams era I believe Frank Williams had a policy not to retain the driver who won the world title because he thought they would rest on their laurels. This is why I don't think Mansell was retained in 1993 and also why Hill went to Arrows having been replaced by Frentzen. I know an exception to this was Villeneuve in 1998 but they began to lose their edge at this time.

Hill almost won the 1997 Hungarian grand prix in the Arrows (a massively inferior car) but the car went kaput on the last lap and I think he finished second.
Report TheChaser November 28, 2016 11:14 PM GMT
I was just checking his history after he won it a few average years and he was gone

Who got Hills gigs
Report TheChaser November 28, 2016 11:15 PM GMT
Ah see it now Frentzen went to Williams
Report FlowerMyth November 28, 2016 11:27 PM GMT
It used to be said that Hill turned down McLaren (and a world championship-winning car) to go to Arrows. It always seemed bizarre that he would do that and recently it's been revealed (by Hill himself) that McLaren didn't want him either. I think with Damon Sir Frank always thought he should have won the WDC earlier. Seems no one really rated him.
Report TheChaser November 28, 2016 11:35 PM GMT
Did his dad's past have something to do with his getting tot he top
Report EvgenyKissin November 28, 2016 11:43 PM GMT
Well was initially the test driver at Williams - he also drove for Brabham at the same time but it was so difficult to get that car qualified (think he got it on the grid for the British GP in 1992). He got the job I think because he was seen as a good understudy to Prost in 1993.

Hill was in his thirties when he got the job as number two at Williams.
Report TheChaser November 29, 2016 12:05 AM GMT
Where did Williams come the season after he left or got fired
Report EvgenyKissin November 29, 2016 12:10 AM GMT
They won - Villeneuve was champion in 1997.
Report TheChaser November 29, 2016 12:15 AM GMT
Ah so the move turned out good/same for Williams
Report TheChaser November 29, 2016 12:29 AM GMT
who was regarded as no1 in 96 hill or villneuve

or just equal
Report TheChaser November 29, 2016 12:34 AM GMT
i used to think overs was easy as i thought only 4 points a minute really and thats 192

but slowing down the pace in some quarters started happening a lot more ( maybe just me ) but i'm sure it did Laugh
Report TheChaser November 29, 2016 12:35 AM GMT
wrong thread
Report Burton-Brewers November 29, 2016 11:17 AM GMT
During the Williams era I believe Frank Williams had a policy not to retain the driver who won the world title because he thought they would rest on their laurels.

EG Mansell left for Indy Cars after he won the title in '92 but it was because Williams had signed Prost behind Nigel's back. he hated Prost with a passion after their time at Ferrari. Alan Jones stayed at Williams after he won the title, and Prost retired after he won it. Hill was treated very shabbily imo, I think it was down to cash at the end of the day. Hill wasn't that well paid at all by F1 standards, I think Frentzen must have joined them with some big sponsor backing. Damon was a decent guy, he could have gone to Ferrari and earned millions but instead decided to help Arrows and Jordan develop their cars.
Report EvgenyKissin November 29, 2016 11:45 AM GMT
Thanks BB - thought Williams had that policy but Villeneuve and Jones would prove that to be incorrect.

After Mansell won the world title I think Murray Walker went to interview him on the Isle of Mann. I seem to remember him saying something along the lines of that there had been an agreement to drive in 1993 and then what had been agreed and now not been agreed. That would fit in with your comment about signing Prost.

While we're on the subject of F1 drivers from the real era, my favourite was James Hunt Happy :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy2uEfHQMCU
Report Burton-Brewers November 29, 2016 12:06 PM GMT
yes I also loved Hunt EK how we could do with a few more characters like him. At the time it made me detest Lauda and what he stood for but looking back now he is a remarkable man.
Report EvgenyKissin November 29, 2016 12:17 PM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khA67-r5lSQ

And of course who could forget James Hunt's commentaries Laugh
Report Burton-Brewers November 29, 2016 12:21 PM GMT
he was actually quite reserved there Grin
Report Platini November 29, 2016 1:31 PM GMT
joke of a sport

best car wins, doesn't mater who the driver is. Crazy
Report TheChaser November 29, 2016 3:10 PM GMT
1997 would be the last year in which Villeneuve would win a championship level race and finish the season in the top three. For 1998, Villeneuve's Williams team had to fare with less competitive Mecachrome engines, and Villeneuve moved to the newly formed British American Racing team in 1999.



True plat
Report EvgenyKissin November 29, 2016 3:33 PM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuFwd-RpBGw

Burton Brewers,

This is the link I meant to include in my first post about James Hunt.
Report Burton-Brewers November 29, 2016 3:35 PM GMT
if I remember right chaser Villeneuve was pals with someone at the top of the new BAR team.
Report Burton-Brewers November 29, 2016 3:37 PM GMT
Grin cheers EK never seen that before, is that actually JH at the piano?
Report TheChaser November 29, 2016 4:04 PM GMT
BAR never lasted long did they

Did anyone create a new team involving the BAR team
Report Burton-Brewers November 29, 2016 4:19 PM GMT
BAR got taken over by Honda Racing who then got taken over by Ross Brawn who finally sold to what is today's Mercedes/Petronas
Report kincsem November 29, 2016 4:58 PM GMT
'I though this BBC article was a disgrace.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/37813595
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