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lfc1971
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Report Aspro November 24, 2016 5:28 PM GMT
Beatles all wrote songs
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:29 PM GMT
nope, can't count ringo
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:31 PM GMT
Sex Pistols, no not really. although all 4 got credited
Report Poppydog. November 24, 2016 5:33 PM GMT
REM spring straight to mind (drummer wrote 'Everybody Hurts'

Possibly Fleetwood Mac (Nicks/Buckingham years)
Report Des Pond November 24, 2016 5:36 PM GMT
Pink Floyd. Must be lots more. Crosby, Stills & Nash; The Byrds, maybe?
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:37 PM GMT
MEM, hadn't thought of them. Can they all write songs, I mean invidually . very unusual to have 4 who can do that such as with Queen.
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:38 PM GMT
*REM
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:39 PM GMT
No I don't mean individual songwriters who come together to form a supergroup
Pink Floyd roger waters could not write songs
Report Aspro November 24, 2016 5:40 PM GMT
OK, without having to look it up, did Nick Mason write songs? And although not the best songs ever written Ringo did write
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:41 PM GMT
No mason did not write, and waters could not write songs, just lyrics
Report Aspro November 24, 2016 5:41 PM GMT
I'd argue that point lfc
Report Des Pond November 24, 2016 5:42 PM GMT
Cream
Report Kit-Kat-Dan November 24, 2016 5:44 PM GMT
All four original members of 10CC wrote songs individually and in combination with each other.

I think all members of The Eagles wrote for the band too. (The Eagles of course, not 10CCGrin)
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:45 PM GMT
Who were in cream again ? the guitarist his names slipped me, 2 songs in his entire career. Who else in cream?.. ah clapton, couldn't write songs
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:46 PM GMT
There were only 2 members of 10cc so in fairness they are no really the same thing
Report Degs November 24, 2016 5:47 PM GMT
without bothering to check, I would think The Eagles might be in with a shout
Report Des Pond November 24, 2016 5:47 PM GMT
Jack bruce & Ginger baker
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:47 PM GMT
Eagles may well be true
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:48 PM GMT
neither Bruce or baker could write songs, in fact no one in cream could
Report Kit-Kat-Dan November 24, 2016 5:48 PM GMT
There were only 2 members of 10cc so in fairness they are no really the same thing

What?? Explain please.
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:51 PM GMT
I would have to check 10cc but in essence I think they were 2 songwriters
Report wildmanfromborneo November 24, 2016 5:52 PM GMT
The Moody Blues
There main line up was Justin Hayward,John Lodge,Mike Pinder,Ray Thomas and Graeme Edge.
All five wrote some exceptional songs.
All five could sing as well.
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:52 PM GMT
not really s group in the classic sense of the rock group, the Beatles set the template for that
Report Des Pond November 24, 2016 5:53 PM GMT
neither Bruce or baker could write songs, in fact no one in cream could

Are you sure?
Report Kit-Kat-Dan November 24, 2016 5:53 PM GMT
Eric Stewart, Graham Gouldman, Kevin Godley and Lol Creme were the original members of 10cc and all wrote songs for the band.
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:53 PM GMT
Hadn't thought of the middy blues Wilde, would be a possibility
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:54 PM GMT
Fair enough, I had only remembered godley and creme
Report bigmo November 24, 2016 5:55 PM GMT
Would have thought 10cc and Eagles.
Report lfc1971 November 24, 2016 5:55 PM GMT
Des pond I am sure that neither ginger baker, Lenny Bruce or Clapton could write songs
Report Des Pond November 24, 2016 5:58 PM GMT
Who wrote their songs, then? Confused
Report Kit-Kat-Dan November 24, 2016 6:00 PM GMT
Looking through The Eagles back catalogue, their albums include tracks written by Don Henley, Glenn Frey, Bernie Leadon, Don Felder, Randy Meisner, Joe Walsh and Timothy B. Schmidt along with JD Souther and Jackson Browne.
Report Poppydog. November 24, 2016 6:02 PM GMT
Graham Gouldman's songwriting credits, even away from 10cc, are surprisingly staggering
Report Kit-Kat-Dan November 24, 2016 6:03 PM GMT
Bruce, Baker and Clapton are all given song-writing credits on various Cream albums.
Report Poppydog. November 24, 2016 6:04 PM GMT
Also, this thread should classify songwriting input as opposed to songwriting credit (U2, anyone)

Lots of groups have equal membership credit, even though equal writing was varied.
Report Des Pond November 24, 2016 6:04 PM GMT
A lot of reworkings of old blues songs, I guess,like the Stones, but some of it was written by Clapton et al. Unless I'm mistaken.
Report wildmanfromborneo November 24, 2016 6:06 PM GMT
Jack Bruce was the main song writer for Cream.

Ginger Baker was an out an out passenger.

10cc had some terrible records but they had four members who could write songs.
Report Des Pond November 24, 2016 6:08 PM GMT
Just noticed that poet Pete Brown wrote the lyrics for some of their biggest hits. So, I back down, somewhat. Happy
Report Burton-Brewers November 24, 2016 6:09 PM GMT
technically all 4 members of Slade wrote their own but Dave Hill's was when they were Ambrose Slade, when they changed to Slade he only did album tracks and B sides.
Report Poppydog. November 24, 2016 6:13 PM GMT
May as well add Genesis - pretty sure you can add all members (even Hackett) as worthy contributors
Report Burton-Brewers November 24, 2016 6:17 PM GMT
don't really know much about them but what about The Beach Boys? they were supposed to be a talented bunch.
Report bigmo November 24, 2016 6:36 PM GMT
.
http://www.musictimes.com/articles/7755/20140719/8-bands-where-every-member-writes-songs-queen-led-zeppelin-and-more.htm
Report Arleystation November 24, 2016 6:43 PM GMT
.........................what about The Beach Boys? they were supposed to be a talented bunch.

Brian, Carl and Dennis Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine. Subsequently Blondie Chaplin, Ricky Fataar etc.
Report FlowerMyth November 24, 2016 6:44 PM GMT
Brian wrote most of their music and they didn't play much on their records. Mike Love got himself credited for minor contributions.

Queen are a good example though because each of them wrote songs that were big or quite big hits. Mercury obv needs no introduction, but Roger Taylor wrote Radio Ga Ga that got to number two in the UK, John Deacon both I Want to Break Free and Another One Bites the Dust in the top 10 and Brian May's Save Me got to number eleven and We Will Rock You number two (although that was I think a double 'A' side with We Are The Champions.
Report Just Checking November 24, 2016 8:07 PM GMT
I'm sure plenty of proper bands have all of the members involved in writing, but often not all on the same song.
You get some strange ones like the drummer writes pretty much all the lyrics for Rush.
And who could forget Ringo Starr?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhokFOP8IH0
Report PorcupineorPineapple November 24, 2016 9:49 PM GMT
REM are sort of a contender where any of Berry, Buck and Mills would write the music and give it to Stipe who did all the lyrics.


The Police are another. Sting wrote the majority though both Andy Summers and Stewart Copeland pitched in with tracks on each of their albums.

Also, Soundgarden. Chris Cornell did most but Ben Shepherd, Kim Thayil and Matt Cameron all wrote music and lyrics on their albums.








Oh, and seeing some of their tracks listed above reminds how utterly, utterly terrible Queen were.
Report lfc1971 November 25, 2016 12:42 AM GMT
pineapple misses the point
it is all four members of the group who are able to write songs.
To write s song, individually, you have to be capable of writing both music and lyrics.
Report PorcupineorPineapple November 25, 2016 9:39 AM GMT
Not sure where I've missed the point; said REM sort of qualify but Stipe wrote all the lyrics. As for The Police and Soundgarden, in both cases other band members brought both music and lyrics.
Report Burton-Brewers November 25, 2016 12:45 PM GMT
Oh, and seeing some of their tracks listed above reminds how utterly, utterly terrible Queen were.

I think what you meant to put is that they are not to your taste, their sales and awards contradict the label terrible.
Report PorcupineorPineapple November 25, 2016 2:28 PM GMT
No, they were shocking. Not terrible during the 70s as a camp rock'n'roll band but during the 80s, geez. We will rock you, Radio gaga etc etc. Just appalling.
Report Burton-Brewers November 25, 2016 2:33 PM GMT
biggest selling UK album of all time, 18 no.1 albums and estimated sales of 300 million says otherwise. Let it rest as you are just confirming what many people already think.
Report PorcupineorPineapple November 25, 2016 3:00 PM GMT
Why does it always have to get personal?



I just think they're rubbish. I also think the "everyone's entitled to an opinion and maybe they're not my cup of tea" line doesn't wash. Some things, including music, can be genuinely great, good or bad. From about 82 onwards (which is when I got to know them and they were everywhere) then they were terrible. Radio Gaga, I Want to Break Free, One Vision, A Kind of Magic, Friends Will Be Friends, Who Wants to Live Forever, I Want It All. Stinkers. Every Single One. I don't mind them when they were more of a rock band in the 70s (though We Are the Champions/We Will Rock You is an abomination) but nothing particularly special. Will grant you Mercury was a good front man and turned them into a good live band by all accounts.


As for the idea that they must be good because they sold loads then that's patently a load of old b0ll0cks.
Report cooperman November 26, 2016 11:52 AM GMT
The Traveling Wilburys
Report TheBaron November 26, 2016 1:48 PM GMT
I can understand not liking Queen but saying they are rubbish is just silly.

I saw them at Earls Court 1977 cost £2.....and well worth it.
Report The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE November 26, 2016 2:08 PM GMT
Gotta say...Queen very overrated. Just my opinion. Got some great CHOONS for sure. But miles away from greatest band ever.
Report The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE November 26, 2016 2:18 PM GMT
As Pineapple said those 80s hits are absolute stinkers.
Report wildmanfromborneo November 26, 2016 2:25 PM GMT
If anyone else wrote what Porcupineorapple did about Queen he would be the first on calling them homophobes.
Report The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE November 26, 2016 2:28 PM GMT
OK didn't know that.
Report mememe November 26, 2016 3:20 PM GMT
Apparently, it's said that Prince Andrew had a part in doing Young Girl.

But Gary Puckett gets the credits for singing and Jerry Fuller for writing.

I've heard that Prince Philip had his moments ... not sure what songs though.
Report PorcupineorPineapple November 26, 2016 3:27 PM GMT
wildman - what does Mercury's sexuality have to do with the price of beans?


My favourite band's probably REM, the singer of who - I'm reliably informed - has a similar preference for men over women.


Difference is, they wrote a ton of great songs whereas Queen didn't.
Report bigmo November 26, 2016 8:44 PM GMT
Oh, and seeing some of their tracks listed above reminds how utterly, utterly terrible Queen were.
Lol!
Report bigmo November 26, 2016 8:45 PM GMT
I just think they're rubbish. I also think the "everyone's entitled to an opinion and maybe they're not my cup of tea" line doesn't wash. Some things, including music, can be genuinely great, good or bad. From about 82 onwards (which is when I got to know them and they were everywhere) then they were terrible. Radio Gaga, I Want to Break Free, One Vision, A Kind of Magic, Friends Will Be Friends, Who Wants to Live Forever, I Want It All. Stinkers. Every Single One. I don't mind them when they were more of a rock band in the 70s (though We Are the Champions/We Will Rock You is an abomination) but nothing particularly special. Will grant you Mercury was a good front man and turned them into a good live band by all accounts.


As for the idea that they must be good because they sold loads then that's patently a load of old b0ll0cks.

Lol!
Report Hamsterdam November 26, 2016 8:58 PM GMT
Well you sell in numbers like that you have to take note.

Queen
Beatles
Abba
Adele
Oasis

Top 5 selling albums in the UK some may not be to your taste but I would call any of them 'rubbish'.

Queen did have some dirgy songs but what about the likes of Innuendo? Masterpiece.
Report Hamsterdam November 26, 2016 8:59 PM GMT
*when
Report crags November 26, 2016 9:07 PM GMT
Ian Dury and the Blockheads. Chaz Jankel was the main one to collaborate with ID, but the other guys all chipped after Chaz left the band.
Report PorcupineorPineapple November 26, 2016 9:27 PM GMT
I remember quite liking Innuendo at the time. Got a big scope and all that. Remember since though(and I've just listened to it again) that it's well, ok. I still like the change of gear half way through though.


As I've said, I'm basing my opinion on their singles output of the early 80s which - to me - is amongst the biggest example of a band forfeiting any artistic integrity in place of trying to write a "hit". Don't think they were good enough either side of that to compensate for that shocking run and be considered great. They had a good front man, caught on very quickly that the music video would become important, and put on extravagant shows.



There's plenty of bands who consistently write great songs, but don't sell for myriad reasons; mostly due to poor business decisions and not getting the backing of labels and radio stations. Likewise, there's plenty of bands who know how to play the game or just catch the wave at the right time and achieve success that is frankly above their level of talent.
Report PorcupineorPineapple November 26, 2016 9:33 PM GMT
Not a fan but I believe Rush fit. Usual script was Lee and Lifeson would do the music and Peart would do the lyrics, but there were quite a few where they'd each compose the whole shebang individually.
Report Gnarley November 27, 2016 4:55 AM GMT
Dinosaur Jr. would qualify, but there's only three of them.
But the added bonus is J Masics looks like God and sings like an angel.
Report zorrostrikes November 27, 2016 7:18 AM GMT
Is this good songs, coz anyone can write a bad song.
Report cardifffc November 27, 2016 10:15 AM GMT
saw the bbc documentary on 10cc...........all 4 wrote songs..........godley an crème wrote together and the other 2 were a team
Report cardifffc November 27, 2016 10:16 AM GMT
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Report cardifffc November 27, 2016 10:16 AM GMT
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Report cardifffc November 27, 2016 10:19 AM GMT
after 10cc split godley and crème made music videos for other artists which had just started with the introduction of MTV
Report Burton-Brewers November 27, 2016 11:45 AM GMT
I'm sure the remaining members of Queen will be more interested how they were thought of by their peers than an anonymous face on a forum.
Report PorcupineorPineapple November 27, 2016 1:54 PM GMT
Don't care what they think and I'm not out to upset them. Doesn't change my opinion of them though.
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