Donald J. Trump obviously not happy..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZCzHYMEIeo

Good morning, Ron.

Very poor show that to subject Vice President-elect Pence to such humiliation, especially as he has always come across as respectful, decent person.

I find it strange that democrats have such a problem with democracy when it brings about a result which they do not like. Surely at that point they cease to be democrats

Hello Evgeny.

Yes not nice at all to treat Mike like that

I agree with what you say totally - if Remain won & Hillary won would we have
heard any complaints/ Riots / People beat up.

a total disgrace of supposedly human beings, 10 x worse than the supposed "far right"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPDmafU6SLA

You look forward to a night at the theatre and this is what you are confronted with!

Its sick Evgeny

& the reporter has it spot on in the studio, these type seem to think they
speak for the whole of the audience - how selfish is that.

awful behaviour

Katie Hopkins piece on the Hamilton cast..

'We, sir, are the diverse America who are alarmed and anxious that your new administration will not protect us, our planet, our children, our parents, or defend us and uphold our inalienable rights. We truly hope this show has inspired you to uphold our American values and work on behalf of all of us. All of us.'

Pass the sick bag.


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3955064/KATIE-HOPKINS-Celebrities-note-Just-pay-entertain-doesn-t-mean-want-hear-lectures-did-waiting-tables.html#ixzz4QaFzGacT

Katie Hopkins ‏@KTHopkins  41m41 minutes ago
The Hamilton cast preach diversity but fail to accept diversity of opinion. There is only one allowed. Theirs.

Paul Joseph Watson ‏@PrisonPlanet  48s49 seconds ago
Is Paul doing a video about the Pence/Hamilton controversy?

A) Yes he is.

Plenty of Americans are furious about this, apparently Mike Pence is a very
nice bloke, just shows the audacity of this LibTard selfish horrid breed

Well said Ron and well done for all your tireless work during the campaign.

Good to hear from you, Ron. Keep with the cause!

Thanks Evgeny

Hope your having a nice evening!

Cheers mini me

The sooner we ban any dissenting voices from being permitted to air their views the better.



Good to see Trump getting on with the important stuff. I mean, after agreeing to settle his fraud case and ensuring his business interests in India, then it's good to see he's got his priorites right. Top of the agenda has to be quelling any opposing views in a theatre and on a tv show. It's a virus. Next thing you know, there'd be dissent in school nativities.


No, this has to be nailed. Don't worry about mentioning anything about minorities being abused, swastikas being drawn in public parks, car stickers being made stating "kill a muslim for Jesus". That kind of stuff can wait.

The ones being abused and violently attacked are Trump supporters - the Elect
POTUS.

Not sure how you can stand on stage as an actor & feel you speak for everyone
in attendance - Right up Lily Allen's street.

There was a Tweet from a muslim earlier saying - below, what do you make of that PP?

ProudMuslim4Trump ‏@AtlTeaPartyLove  Nov 18
Just Returned from the Mosque. No one is paranoid about a Muslim Registry. Except the white leftists who are eager to make us victims

Don't know how one muslim can go on twitter and feel he speaks for everyone.







(Sorry for the delay, had spent some time googling about the libtards drawing swastikas and creating those bumper stickers. Not found anything yet. Will report back.)

who mentioned banning dissenting voices ? PP

they had thar say and he responded ,where does anyone mention banning ?

Swastikas being drawn ?  car stickers ?  wtf are you on about ? PP

The only thing Donald Trump said about Muslims was he wanted them prevented  from traveling to America until it was understood what was going on . A perfectly sensible statement at the time and one which made a lot of sense .



the leftists are using anyone they can Ron and thats why everyone hates them ,even the Muslims

"perfectly sensible"




normalising stupid opinions that would have been deemed outrageous not that long ago.

Totally agree breadnbutter

Ron,

How will you remember Nicolas Sarkozy who tonight looks like he may well be retiring from French politics?

Donald now calls it "Extreme Vetting" PP

If i was part of a supposed religion that was responsible for the majority
of terrorism going on around the world i think id be able to understand
that i needed to be extremely vetted before entering certain countries due to
the action of others connected to my religion.
This religion will use anyone, women , children etc - They are without doubt
the most dangerous breed in the World PP - We obviously know a percentage are not
dangerous but in this instance its a case of having to tar all with the same brush
for the safety of others

I won't remember him as i've never even heard of him Evgeny!

I know next to nothing about French politics

How would you estimate as a percentage the number of muslim terrorists compared to non-terrorists? I'll let you use 15 decimal points if that helps.




As an aside, some absolute christian nutjob on the Frankie Boyle show as I type.

That information is of no use. re the terroris v non

The main problem is its the religion of guidance - & the terrorist types
do the guiding.

I mean what are these idiots doing over here walking around in the full burqa?
These type are just lying in wait for the forceful muslim types to control them.

I feel sorry for the normal muslims that want to integrate but the religion won't
allow

Ridiculous question, how can anybody know, but one is one too many.

Nov 20, 2016 -- 5:01PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:

How would you estimate as a percentage the number of muslim terrorists compared to non-terrorists? I'll let you use 15 decimal points if that helps.As an aside, some absolute christian nutjob on the Frankie Boyle show as I type.

Regarding Christian nutjobs: Did you hear about that reasonably famous US politician that wanted to take money from HIV/AIDS care programmes and redirect it to conversion therapy?

I think he recently went to a musical whose star is openly gay and HIV+ and was booed there by parts of the audience who wanted to voice their opinion regarding someone who is a Christian fundamentalist that thinks you should rather pray away sexual orientation and damage people's psych forever instead of helping ill people.

Got to be honest I'm not overly arsed about Trump. As with all things Brexit, we have to remember that we're governed by our own elected government and our focus should be on them.


I'm just more bemused by his fanboys here who refuse to see anything bad in him. Almost as bad as the Farage fanboys. I mean, who honestly supports a politician? Just really, really odd behaviour.

So the vp wants therapy to convert oneself away from being gay and also likes Broadway musicals. That'll play well in the deep south.

Just really, really odd behaviour.

In your opinion PP!

Some are sick of being sh1t on, & Brexit / Trump brings a bit of hope & light
at the end of the tunnel.

Trump is what he is, the media have done all they could to get him beat, so he
is without doubt the man the US want running the country.

well yes, in my opinion.


I've never met anyone who "supports" a politician. Surely most grown ups have had enough experience of so many of them being crooks, liars and generally massive hypocrites to take them all with a pinch of salt.



As for Trump being the man the Americans want, I believe the number now stands at 1,500,000 more people who voted for Clinton, so y'know.

I knew that was coming

The Popular vote - obviously not in the States that matter though,

Probably best a lot of the LibTards keep together in the LibTard States on the edges,
whilst the sea of RED fills the majority of the USA

My first thought tonight is that porky and his friends are out to frighten everyday people by  using the example of fascism, every time.
They paint the picture of hitler and the blackshirts to silence quetioning/critique.

For leftists, like me, to a see a sort of totalitarian philosophy of the liberals and left is truly bizarre.  A mirror image of the fascism of blackshirt nazism.  Yet it is the supposed freedom of us to say what we think, THEY the left, seem to assume they have prior knowledge of what is correct thinking.
Everywhere we see signs of this from merkel's germany where they seem to want to silence critique of anything not pro immigrant.  Despite the fact that the greatest threat lies inside that immigrant population - which they call racism if you mention it.
Almost everywhere there is the reluctance to even discuss it.  From Sweden to France despite all the terrorist attacks.

This support of governments and politicians by the left etc is also quite bizarre. They want to keep the foot in the open door to worsen the problem of incomers. 

Now you will say this gives governments the chance to create more surveillance which is true.  But in many cases it is the surveillance of the critics, not the open door policies of the controlling governments.  Up till now. 
It would seem brexit and trumpton have changed some of this.

I don't know if you are aware but apparently their are increasing numbers of people being reported for suspicious views!!!  These are not people who support Daesh but the opposite.  What does this mean I ask??  You work it out.

If it is true that we need millions more to keep economies going in europe then you need to look no further.  Some of the totalitarian films and books will be the blueprint for this further transformation of us into  no borders, no country, no difference.  We will just be lower waged ants working for the few very rich. But it will be easier for the rich to control us.

There is of course much more to this than can be covere in a few paragraphs.  But the danger is just as much from those who stand on a stage as there is from those who are worried about whether they have a job next month.

It is not us that should be frightened by government, but that government should be frightened of the people.

Ron, do you realize we could well be full of more or less Christian Saudi-Arabias in the western world if it hadn't been for the enlightenment and the liberal movements that were born from it?

explain more edy?

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It were the liberal movements that freed us Europeans from the Church and fundamentalist Christian ideology ruling us (and they also played a huge part in replacing monarchs and other noblemen from power)

I'd also argue your initial point of the thread, that gay people will not stop until everyone is gay. They simply want to not be treated as sick perversions for having perfectly consensual grown up love relations with each other.

Personally i don't agree with gays & certainly not gay marriage. (thats just my opinion)

Thanks for clearing that up edy.

but surely the liberal views you speak of have become extreme in what we see now?

will the democrats be rioting over YET ANOTHER shot police officer?

Will those same self liberal elements play a huge part in replacing the most misogynist and homophobic cult we have let more of into europe?
Or will they simply not just standby, but actually promote, the burgeoning hegemony of the this cult.

If Donny boy is now president why does he keep going on twatter to complain about Alec Baldwin and also complain about his side kick 10pence getting booed at a musical on broadway

Complaining about a satirical show that takes the p1ss out of the big fat bigot , I mean grown up Donald and save the forgotten people like you promised

We are reaping the result of actions and inaction of successive governments in this country (more than a decade) and in the EU.  We on the left have no answer.  A complete re-think is needed.

He's not POTUS yet though anxious.

Id imagine if you had over 15 million followers on Twitter its pretty hard
to get away from

No but the lump of lard should stop complaining and whinging if you cant stand the heat get out of the fookin kitchen

ebul gery says he is on the Left.

but this new supposed Left is something people would surely not want to
connect themselves to? this breed have two modes

1) Violent mode
2) Cry Baby mode

This is a new breed that surely people on the Left would want to distance themselves
from? Yes? No?

There's nothing extreme about seeking a society with some social justice and in which people are simply left the fook alone for what they are and what they do as long as they don't hurt anyone.

Methodically liberal movements are certainly not any more extreme than what they used to be. They've actually forgotten how to fight and truly stand up against the forces that cling to a society in which people are privileged or discriminated on the basis of their skin colour, gender, social status of parents or for having consensual love relationships with people of the same sex.

Listen there is nothing new in all this recent stuff, the scapegoat culture has been seen before now whilst I agree that immigration is a concern to many people and we should tackle it in a fair and practical way what I don't agree with is sections of society being picked on and blamed for everything that goes wrong

Actually, there is extreme thing. A very, very small, but incredibly loud, minority is trying to enforce a silly amount of pc and micro-aggression management. A curse of the internet really and that there are some people who only seem to feel alive if they're enraged and insulted by everything.

but that is in no way representative of the overall liberalism and is nothing more than a silly temporary thing.

do you agree with all the Trump protesting going on anxious?

What do you guys think Helmut Kohl would have done in this situation?

No I don't I say he has won under the rules so let him get on with it

But what I will say is people are still allowed to criticse him because of his politics

Kohl, as the very convinced European federalist he is, sharply critisized Merkel for making the decision without the EU partners and said we need to tackle the source of the refugee stream.

Its like saying I didn't vote for Thatcher but just because she won am I not allowed to say that I still disagree with nearly everything she stood for

Edy I think most people would agree with that

Yes -very good point, Edy.

that's really what i was trying to say then anxious,

a lot of people on the Left / Liberal views must be getting tarred with
the same brush as like the violence in the US / The Remoaners  / The snowflake
generation.

I can understand fair thinking & treating people well(obviously) but it must be awkward
when you have these violent types fighting your corner

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But what I will say is people are still allowed to criticse him because of his politics

i wouldn't ever disagree with that

Ron these people protesting are not fighting my corner ,the  Democratic party in America and indeed the Republicans have both lost their way , im not sure who they represent anymore

Holding posters and placards isn't going to change anything , its silly and childish actually

I  think what you may find in the future is single issue groups will rise up and gain support for a while

actually i think im wrong in comparing.

all though Remainers / Democratic losers appear to be reading from
the same book.

i don't think we had anywhere near the violence - so we can be pleased about
those differences between the 2

Coming up on Fox after the adverts - what will Trump do about the MSM

wow strong words what this bloke on fox said about the MSM.

Trump is happier than Mrs Clinton...he won and she lost

He will make out all right I am sure.

There are plenty of problems to solve.

Will keep him busy.

Im off to sleep goodnight guys

Nov 20, 2016 -- 6:32PM, anxious wrote:

Edy I think most people would agree with that

They probably would, yes. Not sure how much there really was to do however. The EU members had long tried to find a common refugee policy, which was constantly blocked. The cursed and highly egoistical Dublin III had already collapsed because Greece had been overwhelmed and let people just travel onwards (as Italy had done for years with african refugees that landed on its shores, but numbers were never overwhelming nor Muslim enough so nobody really cared)

People always make out like it was a huge turn of events when Merkel officially suspended Dublin III in september of last year, but I don't think it made that much of an impact in reality as far as refugees are concerned. For the conception of Germany and Merkel it made a giant deal. What it actually did was that the refugees got to stay in empty housing in economically healthier countries like Germany and Sweden instead of sleeping in tents and stations in Greece and Hungary. They were already on european soil and Dublin III was de facto dead. If you look at the arrival numbers per months, you'll notice that after Merkel's words to suspend Dublin III for syrian refugees there was no significant pull of further refugees that hadn't been on european soil already.

If anything, I think an overlooked aspect is that a reasonably powerful country like Germany finally having to take on some refugees made it get a move on to make the Turkey deal and also increase efforts in africa to reduce flight reasons. Which in the end will reduce the number of arrivals.

Which leads me to Trump and that I hope that he won't sabotage the international climate deal. Otherwise especially we Europeans will be in for a lot of climate refugees rather sooner than later.

*perception of Germany and Merkel, not conception....

he is a total **** who will exposed as being out of his depth. Sadly the damage will be done by then.
"Drain the swamp" then employs every yes man insider in the camp, it's a joke but not a very funny one.

This is why immigration is so dangerous. If millions are allowed into Europe and America from countries that are not democratic and of different culture, and then they can vote as one block being able to get into power and change the culture and freedoms that we enjoy in Europe and theUS.
This is the most dangerous aspect of the EU in that it does not allow individual countries to control their own borders.

Do not forget that Germany will soon have a majority of citizens who are neither Christian or German. They will be determined to continue this open door policy. In theory it is never ending unless the central and east European countries say no, that is not our decision and Germany must not dictate terms.

Lfc - got a link to the fact that Germany will soon mostly be full of non-Germans?

Don't worry, after the UK leaves the EU we'll get all the really faithful Poles and Romanians coming to us to. From already having plenty here, I know they're incredibly hard working and nice people.

Even if they stop coming, it's just ridiculously absurd far-right propaganda that Germany's majority population will not be Christian soon. Unless by non-Christian you mean atheist majority, which would be fabulously awesome but will sadly take some time yet.

We will got Germans too.

I have 2 polish friends who have moved their whole family over here in the last 6 months. And yes one the names is Pav, well Pawel but their vees and double yous confuse me greatly, especially when telling them about Eva Wyrill in english, they dont know who im talking about.

Green Day protest at AMAs: 'No Trump, no KKK, no fascist USA' – video

Green Day protest against President-elect Donald Trump at Sunday night’s American Music Awards in Los Angeles. During a performance of their song Bang Bang, they insert a bit of Born to Die, a 1982 single by Texas punk band MDC, amending the song’s chant, ‘No war, no KKK, no fascist USA’

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https://www.theguardian.com/music/video/2016/nov/21/green-day-protest-at-amas-no-trump-no-kkk-no-fascist-usa-video

we in the uk had rock against thatcher ...

hey ho

the beat ....stand down margaret !

a cracking tune

Let's look at it this way. London has about 8 or 9 million people more than half are not British. Scotland has a population of 5 million. So you have a situation whereby the capital city of the U.K. has more foreign citizens than the entire population of one of the UKs countries.

Where does the power lie, where are the numbers. This is why in the US presidential election you have the danger, only just averted this time due to the electoral process, but the danger is there that Californis and New York would elect the president every time and vast areas of the US would have no say.

foreign ?

Again, any source to confirm that more than half of London residents are not British? I'm trying to drive through into this new post-post-truth era.

as of 2013 only 45% were white British

so white only count then burton ?

the figures didn't mention black British just black Afro-Caribbean

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https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/800427425767116800

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https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/800319250841812992

President-elect Donald Trump exploded at media bigs in an off-the-record Trump Tower powow on Monday, sources told The Post.

“It was like a f—ing firing squad,” said one source.

“Trump started with Jeff Zucker and said I hate your network, everyone at CNN is a liar and you should be ashamed….

“The meeting was a total disaster. The TV execs and anchors went in there thinking they would be discussing the access they would get to the Trump administration, but instead they got a Trump-style dressing down,” the source added.

The man is a legend, putting up to dishonest media.

Im not a real fan of him but is so refreshing.

reminds me of joe kinnears first presser at newcastle

I only thought newcastle held them for sackings, as their are more popular with the fans

and that hitler video that you can subtitle

donald cancelling tpp.

Also ending stupid nasa green taxing on guessing.

The man is the best president even before he has made his bed.

Donald J. Trump now taken to Youtube

**** The MSM!

Transition 2017

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_NRgn1L4zVWPOEI5Mt5Tog

Uriah Trump :)

Hey cc.  How are you.  I lose track of people so easily.  And then it just piles up.

yeah how's the marches and riots going over all these cop killings  or are we just breaking windows and setting fire to cars coz we are so so upset over trumpton getting elected??

FAKE NEWS

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-wiretapping-claims-house-154100625.html

FAKE NEWS

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/white-house-not-repeat-allegations-125324050.html