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13 Nov 16
15:35
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during the eu reff he said those saying there,ll be an EU army are living in fantasy land,now cleggy says after trumps win its a necessity that the eu embark on getting an EU army together, is this bloke politics worst ever spokesmen
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Him and Farron a better double act than Laurel and Hardy!
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are they blind for a job they are supposed to be in 24 hrs a door they always seem to be miles behind the man in the street,at least those in the street who can think for themselves and dont swallow their luvie liberal shoite,in the next winter or 2 when the lights start to go out you can set your clock on cleggy saying we need some coal powered power stations like china as a back up,
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all you need to know about clegg is that he's an atheist who sends his children to a roman catholic school.
no backbone, no principles. |
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And a Gentleman of the Wrist
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Clegg's wife is a roman catholic so she sends their kids to a roman catholic school, RC schools take all faiths anyway. Don't think he calls himself an atheist these days.
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Not a fan of Clegg remotely but why shouldn't he send his kids to an RC school?
There's much more to life than religion. If he thinks they're getting a good education but may have to learn a couple of prayers along the way what's the issue? I send my kids to a protestant school, despite being brought up by Vatican catholics myself (is the term just catholic) and realising that religion is a nonsense a long time ago. We just think the school's good. |
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Yes, yes and yes S_H.
but..... the catholic message is still heavily taught/indoctrinated and the "selection" from all faiths is hardly representative. the overwhelming majority of children are from catholic families and reasonably significant teaching time is spent promoting the catholic ideology. Moreover the man can't even win a very straight forward moral argument with his wife. In fact he ceded this argument before they were even married. And as for what he calls himself, i imagine that was largely down to whatever his spads told him would look best. I'm fully of the opinion that Cummings was entirely right on him as evidenced by the fact that Clegg couldn't brush it off. Nick Clegg is a “self-obsessed” and “revolting character” who is “so dishonest” that he cannot tell the difference between truth and lies, a former aide to Michael Gove has said. Dominic Cummings said that Mr Clegg is the “worst kind of modern MP” and "only cares about his image". |
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PoP. you may choose to send your children wherever you want, it's not my business.
However if you are an atheist and send your children to a faith school of any sort, you are endorsing their selection policies (for both pupils and staff) as well as their curriculum. and it's very difficult to put forward a convincing argument against the idea that this endorsement extends not just to your child's school but to all faith schools. It raises some difficult questions, and i think many people are prepared to put the answers to one side if it gives their child a better education. but actually you are merely feeding the loop, rather than trying to break it. if i had my way there would be no religious element in any school. |
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Yeah.
I went to a Roman Catholic school, made my Holy Communion when I was 8, no idea what a Holy Communion was, I was told when the priest gives you bread at the alter, to do the sign of the cross and carry on walking, I was starving, imagine my disappointment when the bread was the size of 50 pence piece. |
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All my schools were CoE.
Given the astounding plasticity and elasticity of childrens' brains, an absolutely staggering amount of time was wasted with church related nonsense. Even when the faith is presented passively, it's an obscene waste of time. |
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jesus, that's some projecting. Here was me thinking looking at their brochure, speaking to family members and deciding that yeah, this looks a good school that educates to a good standard, and gives a good range of activities was what I was doing.
But no, apparently I was endorsing all faith schools. Sheesh. Good to know. For me though, I see religion as mostly harmless in the vast, vast majority of people. You want to believe there's a Santa Jesus in the sky who gives children cancer but then welcomes them to the afterlife, you want to believe in Buddha, in Mohammed, in Zeus in whatever then go for it. Let's be honest, there are far worse things in the world than believing in that. Millions upon millions of people in this country have been taught in faith schools, have learned their prayers and hymns and have come out the other side ok. Some still believe, some don't. Meh. When I look back at my senior school I don't think about being taught by Christian brothers, about learning religion till GCSE (was the only one I got less than a B in, which still amuses me); I think about the education I was lucky to be given there as it was and still is a very good school. So if the choice is between a religious school which teaches my kids to a very high standard, and where they can learn to socialise and make friends but will also learn some of the Christian doctrine, or a non-faith school that teaches them to a lower standard and/or is further away from home providing both inconvenience and a problem in them making friends then I'm going for the faith school every time. Let them learn about god and then start asking all the awkward questions that inevitably come up. It'll be a learning experience. |
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would imagine clegg wouldnt want his kids to well educated because they wont be very old ,before they look at their old man and say thats what a good education brings you, [nothing but ridicule and scorn],
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probably in a competitve field the most despised man in the uk
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Major bad decision to throw his hat in the ring with Dave. The added scrutiny exposed him as a political lightweight, a position from which he will never recover.
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That head to head with Farage v Clegg should be on the national curriculum when assessing the EU referendum and why people voted the way they did.
Can any of you libtards find any dishonesty in that debate from Sir Nigel? |
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You're wasting your time Zen. The libtards don't need to find dishonesty, if it opposes their (blinkered) points of view they consider it to have come from the lips of Beelzebub him/herself.
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more heartbreal for cleggy and farron according to the bbc trump did win most votes after all,another bullets removed from cleggys s gun,
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