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twizzle22
09 Nov 16 10:26
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But Trump trumps this BRITISH news story

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By:
casemoney
When: 09 Nov 16 10:56
No mention of Deaths on the Brilliant BBC
By:
Thin and Crispy
When: 09 Nov 16 10:58
Of course Trump dominates the news don't be so daft.
By:
ooO{Alpha Centauri}Ooo
When: 09 Nov 16 11:00
No confirmed deaths anywhere, source?
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Nov 16 11:00
Croydon tram overturns: Two trapped and 50 injured  bbbbc bbc
By:
twizzle22
When: 09 Nov 16 11:05
LBC reporting 6 feared dead..it was 8 earlier
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Nov 16 11:06
Sad must be chaos around there
By:
twizzle22
When: 09 Nov 16 11:07
The item was half way down the Mail on line..its a major BRITISH news story..just saying
By:
Thin and Crispy
When: 09 Nov 16 11:13
Unless you live in the area or are directly affected by it an accident like this is a minor news story to the rest of the country....unless you are a rubber necker type.
By:
twizzle22
When: 09 Nov 16 11:15
Minor news story..6 maybe more dead...strange sense of values you have mate
By:
bigH
When: 09 Nov 16 11:18
from Twitter

Danny John Jules ‏@DannyJohnJuIes  12m12 minutes ago
Danny John Jules Retweeted BTP
Croydon has a high proportion of blacks. This affects black people more than whites. #blacklivesmatter
By:
twizzle22
When: 09 Nov 16 11:20
When the penny drops with the BBC that black lives have been lost it will be clear the decks and relegate Trump as an after thought.
By:
mobo
When: 09 Nov 16 11:20
how on earth does a tram (2 car) overturn ?  speed?
By:
bigH
When: 09 Nov 16 11:38
I used to live quite close to Sandilands and have been on the tram countless times on that line

There are some very sharp turns not far from Sandilands - I suspect speed will be the cause, either that or it will have hit a large vehicle on the line
By:
ronnie rails
When: 09 Nov 16 14:27
five confirmed dead
By:
Injera
When: 09 Nov 16 15:59
Driver arrested.

2 still trapped Sad
By:
saddo
When: 09 Nov 16 16:01
Very odd tweet from Danny John Jules, does he sell chips?
By:
badjoe
When: 09 Nov 16 16:49
Was on one of these trams when I was down in London about 6 months ago, looking at the pictures it is on a bend and no other vehicle is present, so going too fast round a bend could be it. Horrible thing to happen, people falling on top of one another as the tram slides over the road Sad
By:
bigH
When: 09 Nov 16 17:49
seen the pics - accident was at the exact point I mentioned earlier
By:
Des Pond
When: 09 Nov 16 18:03
Going too fast apparently. Sad
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 09 Nov 16 18:57
7 dead Sad

Still not the top story on the bbc site.
By:
Just Checking
When: 09 Nov 16 19:10
It mentioned deaths on the bbc news briefly, was it SEVEN though?
By:
treetop
When: 09 Nov 16 19:37
Main BBC News at 6-00 ,or 6-30 when they got round to this minor item, said 5 dead. Shameful to ignore our news while they had 33 minutes on US election ! I wonder how much bad news the spin doctors released today ?
By:
Just Checking
When: 09 Nov 16 19:43
wow yes you're of course right, c4 news just said at least 7 SadSadSadSad
By:
twizzle22
When: 09 Nov 16 19:44
40 mins into Channel 4 news before it got mentioned....shamefull
By:
xmoneyx
When: 09 Nov 16 19:44
what odds he was texting
By:
twizzle22
When: 09 Nov 16 19:45
3 minute mention and then straight back to Clinton
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 09 Nov 16 19:53
Absolutely shocking news.
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Nov 16 22:02
Would have thought Trams safest form of Travel Sad

The thing looks intact, hard to Believe so many DEAD Sad

RIP
By:
badjoe
When: 09 Nov 16 23:07
BBC 'Trams are not fitted with any safety protection systems that apply the brakes automatically if they are going too fast, according to the Office of Rail and Road.' Well that will be changing.
By:
Just Checking
When: 09 Nov 16 23:09
Yes it looked totally intact? Windows broke and people went under it perhaps? People on the top side broke necks falling?

It seems strange to have so many deaths.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 09 Nov 16 23:10
One of the lines of enquiry is that the driver fell asleep.

Any chance of the US Elections playing a part in this?
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 09 Nov 16 23:18
Probably a fast tracked driver?

Not a joking thread obviously - RIP Sad
By:
Just Checking
When: 09 Nov 16 23:21
You see train wrecks with the carriages ruined with less deaths, it's strange.
By:
Des Pond
When: 09 Nov 16 23:24
I find trams a bit scary. Nearly got run over by one in Oslo once. Didn't hear it coming, and it just looked like a pedestrianised area, didn't take enough notice of the tracks obviously.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 09 Nov 16 23:25
didn't it say something like the driver had been arrested but not in
connection with the crash? or did i dream that? sure i heard along them lines earlier
By:
Des Pond
When: 09 Nov 16 23:26
Nah, must have been in connection with the crash, ron.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 09 Nov 16 23:33
Having been on that tram in the past myself, there is a steep down hill part were speed is easily built up followed by an extremely sharp bend,

I would imagine that the passengers were thrown into each other or the sides of the carriage at a terrific force with momentum.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 09 Nov 16 23:34
ah yes, that must have been it Des!
By:
breadnbutter
When: 10 Nov 16 00:35
The downhill and bend might be key ,rear carriage  raise and then swing in a snake like fashion with the energy concentrated there,as carriage has came down passengers put through windows and then carriage with momentum goes over the top of them trapping them under the overturned carriage and track .
Just a guess though and do not know if thats the case although having seen pictures there did not seam to be a concertina effect of the carriage ,although there could be on the underside and trapped were in the carriage .
lessons will be learned .
Unusual for a driver to be arrested so soon and also suspected "falling alseep" rather than blacking out or just not knowing what happened to be given as a cause ,maybe there is CCTV in cabin ? even then still unusual for that speculation to be released so soon .

RIP the dead  injuries sound horrific and sounds like a long day for the emergency services trying to free the trapped passengers .

Looks like another case of human error although be interesting to here what safety systems were in place ,thought a dead mans handle was in operation on rail vehicles .
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