THEY'RE STILL SOME PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY THINK TRAMP WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

they simply cannot let go - continual interviewing of anti trump 'we are doomed' 'frightened' people on the street

what is trump going to do - lock up everyone who dislikes him?

maybe he is keeping records on all the nasty commentators - no wonder they are looking glum ho ho!!!

Incidently it seems to be missing the point that it isn't just trump but the republicans are in totally as well.

they are desperately trying to make up bad news

making mischief over the economy and the ftse100  which has sadly (for sky presenters) bounced back

oh dear  - will they EVER accept the result

this is so like brexit

will there be marches in the street against this result

what price the op is never seen on the forums again???

Grant - hi there, did Mrs King offer any 'special bets' on the US Election?  Sadly I appear to have missed out on them.

placed a bet on him last September 2015, he was 16.5 at that time - my reasoning was they voted Reagan in, No vision needed - the American's are simply nuts.

Nov 9, 2016 -- 7:42AM, alun2005 wrote:

Grant - hi there, did Mrs King offer any 'special bets' on the US Election?

alun u doubled spaced me

At some point in the near future, Boris Johnson will have to meet up with Trump. That first conversation should be interesting especially after Boris has previously slagged off Trump in no uncertain terms!

Terrible that peeps should bring this one back ttt ;)

What about Omama, he said that Trump hadn't got the temperament to be president.

Said Trump was 'woefully unprepared' to be president and lacks 'basic knowledge' and 'decency'

What a clown Obama turned out to be. 7 years as president and he still hadn't learned to measure his words in case he called it wrong.

Now Obama can apologise and eat humble pie.

remember what he said about Clinton Dr.? "Hillary Clinton. She’ll say anything, and change nothing." the two faced prat despises them as much as The Don.

Channel 4 news choking up - john snow touched by black gay almost sobbing  - you have never heard such miserable one sided carp as Snow cuts off an aide to trump as she replies.

Obama's Team and Trump's Team today

He is almost consistently wrong - you could make money following him (not).  Tragically, if the faction he supports ever came into power, they would probably shoot him for being him.  Let's have a moment of commiseration.

When the OP goes Low, we go High.

he'd better get his walking boots on

Whatever else - you do get a lot of thigh with The Donald (surroundings).

Thanks for the clue

toty?

tugger of the year?

Acquiesce trying hard to retain his dignity after yet another wrong call.

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Didn’t he also have a LEICESTER CAN’T WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE thread’


Other gems on here from 3 of his friends:

http://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/30490209/i-am-leaving-the-country-if-the-tories-get-in




FACTS
21 Apr 15 05:17 
Except you all would have been screaming he's too much out of the Tony Blair mould. And you would have been correct. Which is why he wasn't chosen as the Labour leader. But Ed 's of the a' right stuff'  Get used to him guys.
He's your next Prime Minister





northernlad - the ‘vote fixer‘.
I employ both Asian & British and I doubt the majority are in the slightest bit interested, but when I tell them on the eve of the referendum that a 'withdrawl' vote will mean I sell the business and move to Ireland, they WILL go and vote to stay in. I expect major employers like Nissan will be telling their workers a 'No' vote could result in them moving to the continent. People will not take the slightest risk with their jobs...trust me!  A 'stay in' vote will easily be achieved

Did nothernlad carry out his threat to sell up and leave us?

We all get things wrong from time to time..

But why do some people ensure that none of us can possibly miss it?????

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But hang on a minute - what if the USA government calls the November election null and void because of the alleged involvement of Russia in digitally tampering with the voting results.

Could that happen? Which means that Trump would not after all become president and a new interim temporary government would hold power until another election takes place.

Perhaps all this talk of Russia interfering with the election results has been planned by the opposition just for the purpose of stopping Trump becoming president.

Just a theory - 10/1 anybody?

A million to one would be nearer the mark

As with Brexit the Polls got it wrong, they failed to pick up on a dissatisfaction amongst voters.

everyone thinks trump will never set off a nuke

id have thought the fbi investigation had more effect than
the hacking, as it came just before the vote

question is why is Trump so chummy with Putin? Was there a deal?

that's the sort of idiotic question that can remain nicely unanswered

so why the Trump/Putin bromance?

Wikileaks released the information and said it did not originate from Russia. Assange has now been silenced. The leaks came from within the DNC. All this latest guff is at the behest of a lame duck president, desperately trying to deflect from his own abysmal legacy.

Assange hoping he might get a pardon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecuadorian_cuisine

And whop can blame him!

Trump likes Russia, anyone sensible would

Wikileaks released the information and said it did not originate from Russia. Assange has now been silenced. The leaks came from within the DNC. All this latest guff is at the behest of a lame duck president, desperately trying to deflect from his own abysmal legacy.

That makes no sense (no surprise there). Why would intelligence chiefs want to dis the guy who's going to be their boss in 2 weeks?

Trump likes Russia, anyone sensible would

Why does Trump like the leader of possible the most corrupt and aggressive nation in the world?

Trump is a liability to the U.S

well it's a question of looking at the big picture, and maybe he likes Tolstoy. he just might like the Russian people, who wouldn't ?

which big picture is that?

He may admire the fact that Putin puts the interests of Russia first, that's a good thing. Nobody likes leaders who always think of others and neglect themselves

He doesn't see Russia as a threat, he sees terrorism and religious maniacs as the threat

we are moving into a post democratic world, because you cannot have multiculturalism and democracy.
it's impossible and a contradiction

What people forget is the K.G.B never really  disappeared  when Communism finished
Putin himself is an ex K.G.B member...

Yeah they just divided the spoils amongst themselves. As lfc hints maybe that's what Trump wants: a USA without democracy where the elite keep the wealth. He certainly doesn't like parting with any of his own money.

One things certain he can't bankrupt the U.S!..

Trump wants good relationships with Russia...because making them an enemy achieves nothing.

Making enemies for the sake of it is not a good policy.

This world faces lots of problems, it is easier to solve them if we all work together.

Trump will make a very good president.

Russia have been managing Trump for 10 years

He is owned by them

It's an attempted Russian takeover.

Paranoia gone mad?

What do you fear from Russia, communism fell years ago?

Their nuclear arsenal :

Russia :

The second country to develop nuclear weapons.

It has the largest arsenal of any country and is investing
heavily in the modernization of its warheads and delivery systems.    

7,300 warheads

USA : 6,970 warheads

They are not a democracy so their own people cannot change their government.

United Kingdom    :   215 warheads

It maintains a fleet of four nuclear-armed submarines in Scotland, each carrying 16 Trident missiles.

Its parliament voted in 2016 to overhaul its nuclear forces.   
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http://www.icanw.org/the-facts/nuclear-arsenals/

Russia is most definitely not a force for good.

Putin big pals with Iran - America's bete noire. How's that circle going to be squared?

And why should Trump, or even America worry about what happens in Iran again.
Let Russia worry about that if they are silly enough it won't affect America

The Leopard  • January 8, 2017 2:20 AM GMT 
Their nuclear arsenal :

What about the Nuclear Arsenal of the United States????????????

Jan 7, 2017 -- 8:21PM, The Leopard wrote:

USA : 6,970 warheads

I included that....they don't have a President set on world domination....yet

And why should Trump, or even America worry about what happens in Iran again.

Trump's a big Iran-hater. Putin may have to throw them under a bus to stay chummy with Donald

Trump is Putin's puppet....he'll do whatever the FSB crime syndicate tell him to do.

But he won't be there long.

CIA + NSA are rolling.

yes any sensible person would hate the regime in Iran, so if Putin listens to Trump well that's good news right there

probably the only thing we can be sure about Trump's foreign policy is that he will be very pro-Israel. that means he's not going to be able to ignore Middle East bogeymen like Iran.

If he doesn't ? well there's not much Trump can do about that. It's Irans loss not Americas

The worlds changed, America are not going to bail out Europe and the rest of the world any more

they never bailed anyone out - they were always looking after their own interests. you think they spends billions on military bases all over the world to help the locals. think again..

America and Trump will do deals with individual countries, just between the two and the benefit of both. That's how it will work now

America do not need those based all over the world, its time for the rest of the world to grow up

you think they're going to close them down? you're very wrong if you do.

Probably not, it is not so important, Trump wants to bring everything back home, he's right there also.
It's takes a new way of thinking, in American and here and Europe and the other shi@countries all over the world

It won't work like that. Trump will find that out when he has to get off Twitter and makes some real decisions.

It will be difficult because like Brexit the leftists will try and make it difficult and muddy the waters every which way

It will be difficult because the world doesn't work like that. People had their heads turned in 2016 by people with absolutely no experience of government and decision making.

Trump made himself popular because, like you, many in the US believe they spend billions on military bases all over the world to help the locals. They don't and they never have. The US only takes an interest in foreign affairs when it's in their interests. They stop doing that and they cease to prosper.

And for information there are no "leftists" in US government and never have been.

It is not just the number of Nuclear warheads but also delivery systems and also the overall military power of a country.

I would say the United States still leads in this myself.

Still if people think Trump is nothing but a Putin puppet not much I can say.

What about the people who voted into power are they all Putin's puppets as well


Putin is not set on World domination, can one say the same about the United States?

I believe in peace not war(unless it cannot be avoided)

I have also witnessed the mess the United States interference has caused in the Middle East since circa 1990,

they have turned it into a bloodbath

who voted Trump into power

America have spent billions in countries like Iraq, and others. Trump is not about to make that mistake again.

not only gave there been leftists in government in the US, there have been communists who, as in Britain hate their own country

Everything is seen through the prism of hatred of America and Britain.
Even up to the level of party leaders.

The thing they hope for most of all is to weaken America and break up the UK

I think you're confusing gave with have,,...

now breedingmad you were making a nuisance of yourself yesterday, don't start today !

America have spent billions in countries like Iraq, and others. Trump is not about to make that mistake again

You think that money was spent out of benevolence to the locals?

ebulGery : I have also witnessed the mess the United States interference has caused in the Middle East since circa 1990,

they have turned it into a bloodbath

It was a bloodbath carried out by Saddam's Bathists who are now Daesh (ISIS) and Sunni / Shia animosity

Not down to USA or GB

America has spent billions on aid to Iraq, they have spent billions on help with engineering , medical care hospitals and people, drugs and education, scientific and technical help, every aspect of what is needed to help Iraq become a free and democratic and prosperous and peaceful country America has spent billions and also given time and knowledge and at a great rish to the good and brave people not just financially.

you think they did this just to help the locals?

That's ok, no one likes to be thankful. don't worry America have have enough. It is time for these countries to try and do something for themselves. Perhaps it's Russia's problem now, or Europes or Britains, very good

that doesn't answer the question.

look, I know you think America are spending billions of dollars on aid to Iraq because they want to benefit America.
That doesn't worry me, what is good for America is good for the world, and Iraq.

The point is they are going to stop spending billions and leave Iraq and Europe and the rest of the world to look after themselves.  I suppose you won't be satisfied with that either ?

still haven't answered it

you're getting terribly muddled

You're need reading carefully enough I will make it simple for you
America does what is good for America
What is good for America is good for the world
Countries like Iraq should beg America to come in and run the country and government and industry and every aspect of life in partnership together
That's how I see it that's all

The Leopard  • January 8, 2017 2:14 PM GMT 


ebulGery : I have also witnessed the mess the United States interference has caused in the Middle East since circa 1990,

they have turned it into a bloodbath

It was a bloodbath carried out by Saddam's Bathists who are now Daesh (ISIS) and Sunni / Shia animosity

Not down to USA or GB

I would dispute that Leopard, Saddam was a brutal ruler, but it meant normal Iraqi's could go about living
their daily lives.....without the risk of being killed or maimed by bombs.,,which I think most human beings desire.

Saddam was a Sunni, but not a religious fanatic, he ruled by the cult of himself.

By removing Saddam, Iraq is now a bloodbath, there are still bombs going off with regular occurrence in S.Iraq, northern Iraq
is in a state of permanent war with ISIS, because the only who could keep the peace was Saddam and he was removed by the West.

The Kurds have benefitted since Saddam fell, they have their own country now, but most in Iraq have suffered.

I stand by what I say, but it is not your view Leopard, fair enough.

the US was quite happy with Saddam until he invaded Kuwait - so the US invaded to save the Kuwaiti people ( )

Iran has always been the US bogeyman in the region for having the temerity to remove the US's puppet The Shah -  and after that the Embasssy humiliation.

A_T fair enough, but that was not the reason for the invasion, but if was  a plausible excuse, I will give you that.

The killing of Iraqi conscripts was excessive, and why the sanctions after Saddam's defeat, which showed he was no longer a threat?

I believe I know the real reason, and it was evil, you have to work it out yourself.