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06 Nov 16
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http://videos.britainfirst.org/video-britain-first-invades-londons-biggest-halal-slaughterhouse/
You tell em Jayda!!!!
http://videos.britainfirst.org/video-britain-first-invades-londons-biggest-halal-slaughterhouse/
You tell em Jayda!!!!
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Poor little goats
 The animal that never bothers anyone but unlucky for them a certain breed took a liking to sh@gging them & eating them killed in a bloodthirsty barbaric way |
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Shocking footage shows halal slaughtermen 'taunting sheep before hacking them to pieces'
. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/shocking-footage-shows-halal-slaughtermen-5095722 this from well over a year ago, why can't people get it in their heads these people are evil....who would throw a poor animal about that's about to be slaughtered like that? What the **** are we doing? These ****s shouldn't even be in the country, id rather put a goat up for the night than one of these "what ever they are" |
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How do you like your meat to be slaughtered Ron?
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#carpet-bomb
**** off |
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normal stunned
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or don't eat meat the other quite acceptable option
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Many don't die fro stunning and are carved up or boiled alive in the case of pigs, there's no nice way to kill your food. Halal or otherwise.
It's also not the best way to encourage debate by telling people to **** off. |
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Its about animal welfare.
why are we bowing to some sick killing paedo that was more than likely a false prophet & still to this day poor animals are being killed in a barbaric way? if i ever met him id knock the **** spark out |
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I see it's another anti muslim thread not an animal welfare one at all. I'll leave you to it. Have a nice day.
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the **** off wasn't to you pantsonfire.
you just slipped in between posts |
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why anti muslim.
This is about Animal cruelty which i'm sick of going on in this once great country be it jewish or muslim. it makes you laugh, its bonfire night and they give out great little bits of advise, makes sure there's no small animals, hedge hogs etc in your bonfire before starting it......but the gutless @rseholes are quite happy to let barbaric sick slaughter go on behind closed doors. SORT IT OUT FFS |
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*ADVICE
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One day all meat here will be halal. It's either cruelty to animals or it isn't, will the RSPCA just have to continue looking the other way?
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Nassim Nicholas Taleb on the subject...
https://medium.com/@nntaleb/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15#.s3437xox7 " We can answer these points using the minority rule. Yes, an intolerant minority can control and destroy democracy. Actually, as we saw, it will eventually destroy our world. So, we need to be more than intolerant with some intolerant minorities. It is not permissible to use “American values” or “Western principles” in treating intolerant Salafism (which denies other peoples’ right to have their own religion). The West is currently in the process of committing suicide." |
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pantsonfire 06 Nov 16 04:03
How do you like your meat to be slaughtered Ron? Ron-Russian 06 Nov 16 04:05 normal stunned like over 90% of halal meat is. unlike 0% of kosher.  |
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Here in oz businesses pay to have their products halal certified. It's all about money as usual. Some of these products have got nothing to do with meat. Eg Nestle coffee.
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Not far from here it is common for people to dispatch their own goat/sheep in the back yard so that 90% might be a bit off.
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We don't seem to allow halal pork
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@kamikazee I was going to mention that too. We often think halal means slaughtered meat when it actually refers to a product or food that doesn't contain any non-permissible products such as gelatine from pig or similar(only for food industry). Fact is, as stated, its a game of money and no one wants to miss out on making money just because they dont want to make a product that muslims cant buy. That is stupidity.
And while we keep producing muslim hating threads here on the forum, our fellow soldiers killed over 2 dozen civilians in Afghanistan a couple days ago. Just in case you wonder the next time why they hate us. Why was it that we invaded Afg by the way? |
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Until I read the Chit Chat/Politics Forum postings, I would never have believed that we had so many white heterosexual British/Irish/European sports bettors who :
(a) Eat Halal meat, having no problems with way it is slaughtered (b) Like the sound of the call to the Mosques in British towns © Love the idea of having undocumented, age-unknown, motives-unknown 'Refugees" flooding into Britain in huge numbers, and accommodating them in their own homes (d) Don't have a problem with people burning poppies on British streets and being fined just £50 for it, even if the fine can then be paid for by a Hate Preacher subsequently (and belatedly) sent to jail on terror convictions. Do these sorts of Sports bettors also operate in such numbers at racetracks, loudly airing such misguided opinions? |
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you care whether someone said a prayer before slitting an animal's throat?
the issue is not halal slaughter, it's prestunning. as i said. 90% of halal meat is prestunned prior to slaughter. 0% kosher. everyone seems far more concerned about the final seconds of an animal's life; less so about how well they have lived up to that point. |
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stun gun abattoir isn't exactly a jolly site
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Stunning has been obligatory in the European Union since 1979 in order to spare animals "avoidable pain or suffering", though most member states make exceptions for religious communities.
This tells me that if muslims stun their animals, they do it because of the european law(which i was referring to in my previous post). So muslims stun only when they have to comply with the law. They'll be glad if we don't force them to stun, just like the koshers(which you say do not stun the animals). |
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hi detraveller,
my point is that most people with an anti-muslim agenda dress up their halal argument as one of animal welfare, when it's really no such thing. Dhabihah prescribes that the animal must die from the cut to the throat, and the concern in the past has been that by stunning an animal, this may kill it first, and therefore the meat may be haram. As you point out, the majority of clerics have accepted that pre-stunning is fine as it's very unlikely the animal will die this way. There is no such relaxation for Shechita. Therefore if the concern is one of animal welfare, the Jewish rituals are far more worrying than the Islam ones. You have to have a set of standards which apply across all religions. As an extension, if you are really concerned about Islam, your number 1 concern should probably be faith schools and the state funding of faith schools across all religious denominations. |
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I couldn't agree more really.
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Anyone who believes in free speech, women's rights, gay rights, and is against threats of physical intimidation should be Anti Islam.
Personally I don't give a monkeys how Islam decides to slaughter it's food. |
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A 1974 Catholic church estimate of the population of East Timor was 688,711 people; in 1982 the church reported only 425,000. This led to an estimate of 200,000 people killed during the occupation, which was widely reported around the world. Other sources such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch also support an estimate of over 200,000 killed.
The protection of the catholic population in East Timor from mass genocide by Islamic Indonesia was partly responsible for the formation of Al Qaeda. They were unhappy that they couldn't kill them all. |
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Let's not start about who killed who. People kill. Thats it. We kill. They kill. They kill in the name of religion. We call it for freedom, liberation, democracy and what not.
If your purpose of posting is only to bash the muslims, i'd recommend creating a mega-thread as people do it fondly on this forum. |
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My purpose for posting is to not let mass murderers hide behind the cloak of Islamophobia bashers such as yourself.
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If someone kills due to an ideology then that ideology needs to be bashed.
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Again, mass murders have been committed by almost every country, including yours and mine. Motivation to do so differs but no motivation is better than the other. Do you think Britain became a colonial flower by distributing flowers among the rest of the world?
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*power
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And arguing about their way of life such as how they kill their meat, is playing into the hands of sympathisers and fanatics.
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No one in the whole world gives a feck about what a few individuals are posting on a thread on betfair. So it doesn't play into the hands of the sympathisers or fanatics. I have only stated facts in my discussion. Plz read again. Then read what you have written and think for yourself why people like you are labelled islamophobs.
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As to why we are arguing about how they kill their animals, the hint is in the thread title.
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This country and many other countries have done some barabaric things throughout the ages, but we live in the present, and at present the threats and barbarism this world faces are due to Islam.
It shouldn't be protected (from criticism). To do so would be crazy. |