300,000 social housing letting given to immigrants in one year

the reason the polish prefer England is because there is a big Polish community in England especially in the Southampton and surrounding areas as well as the fact that there is more jobs available in Britain whereas in Spain there is mass unemployment, the Spanish are also flocking here and too Germany. Then there is the language issue, English is party a top destination as it's a lot of people's second language, makes life easier to settle in, these really are pure simple facts, how exactly do you know how many people that are currently signing on are Polish ?

You must be proud of the 425000 pound house man and his 8 children leeching off the british tax payer

perhaps dave1357 will apoligise for that remark, that sort of talk can be a matter for the courts in certain circumstances.

70 quid a day and umpteen to a room undercutting the rest on british building sites
it really is sickening what is being done to our country

Oct 31, 2016 -- 1:34PM, mobo wrote:

don't be so fkn lazy

Oct 31, 2016 -- 1:34PM, mobo wrote:

don't be so fkn lazy  government figures are out there  - go find them

>I was only able to find the 2014/2015 figures, as posted above. Would you be so kind to point us to the more recent figures with the 300,000 new social housing lettings to immigrants?

it is wonderful that the Polish feel so comfortable in England, of course the language barrier is equally of no importance if they were to stay and work in Poland.
perhaps they will do so and it will only benefit Poland if these millions of very skilled people come back, who would deny that.

Oct 31, 2016 -- 1:36PM, lfc1971 wrote:

perhaps dave1357 will apoligise for that remark, that sort of talk can be a matter for the courts in certain circumstances.

If someone were to post lies for the purpose of inciting hatred against immigrants, that person would justifiably be worried about ending up in court.

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/236

bit more background info for you all

it's just a fact of life that people move around to find a better way of life, if you think things are unfair you blame the system not the people, the people are just doing what's natural, jobs and wages in Poland can't compare to jobs and wages in England.

If your pipes spring a leak in krakov you phone pimlico plumbers up and they send one of there 100,s of polish plumbers over

and what about someone posting slander in order to incite hatred against a British citizen, you are very careful in watching your language concerning someone not British.

Oct 31, 2016 -- 1:40PM, mobo wrote:

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/236bit more background info for you all

Table 1: Housing Tenure by Country of Birth and Number of Years Since Last Arrival in the UK - %

UK born, EEA born less than 5 years, EEA born more than 5 years

Social Housing    17    10    16

Whatcha all getting worked up about EU/EEA immigrants?

I don`t blame the polish workers for wanting to come to England, of course.
I am just saying that they should not be able to, imo

you can't post slander on here lfc, slander is a spoken word

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10205963/Half-a-million-i...

but that is an old one of course

still waiting for the government report on the 300,000 new lettings to immigrants

edy gives those figures and wonders why there is a problem.

post the link properly please - does it contain the proof of your 300k social lettings in a year claim?

the 'demographic shift' supporters know what they are after and dave and the others blindly follow into the hole

just mentioned again on politics who,s going to pick fruit in the fields blah,blah,but with living wage coming in and tradesmen in the north struggling to get just over the minimum wage less than workers in aldi,lidle etc,i,d suspect people would rather pick fruit than earn a pittance for working in a trade

so still no evidence then?

they are rather nasty and make veiled or not so veiled threats against people who protest against the massive 'demographic shift' taking place
just like the nasty Brown 'bigot' gate incident.

it is libel by any other name, if you know your Shakespeare scand. you will understand that.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/727071/lorry-driver-mobile-phone-killed-mot...

still no apology from dave1357.

So, mobo, did you just pull the 300,000 number out of your bumhole and thought it would be fun to spread it or are you at least only repeating someone else's lies?

meanwhile nigerians sail into st georges and have babies on the nhs and then shoot off

rofl I think OP should be the one apologising for making a statement that he can't substantiate.

if his figures are wrong perhaps you know the true figures, if not shut up

So in an effort to distract from the fact that he completely made up the statistic in the OP, probably to get some approval from the forums basket of deplorables, OP is now poating various random anti-immigration stories (with the added benefit that he gets more cuddles from said deplorables).

Oct 31, 2016 -- 1:55PM, lfc1971 wrote:

if his figures are wrong perhaps you know the true figures, if not shut up

edy has posted the most recent figures he could find and these are far far away from OPs.

what are the true figures?

I posted the 2014/2015 figures, lfc. Why shut up? One can not ask for sources regarding preposterous claims anymore?

Instead being outraged at unconfirmed and unsubstatiated figures is all cool and none of those people should shut up?

I'm just waiting for allegations that your figures are "r i g g e d", edy.

more to come when I find it
here's a little taster for you
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/611711/Social-housing-Eastern-Europeans-England

oh no it is not made up I can assure you - I spotted it last night

so you think the 'demographic shift' is of no importance at all then

Oct 31, 2016 -- 2:04PM, mobo wrote:

oh no it is not made up I can assure you - I spotted it last night

in your bumhole while drunk?

you can`t get the true figures because they are deliberately hidden by councils, or they try to. In Ealing and Haringey eg nearly half of all social housing went to foreign nationals. why?

other boroughs reported the lets but with a large proportion of tenants refusing to disclose their nationality.

as a result of this deception, deliberate by both councils and the government we do not get the true picture

most local authorities refused to answer freedom of information requests on who is getting social housing...or claimed to be unable to do so.

It is a complete scam.

they won`t tell us, the government and the councils deliberately cover up the figures. try to make it as obscure and opaque as possible.
they are helped by the dishonesty and stupidity of people like dave1357 and edy.

lfc1971 • October 31, 2016 1:19 PM GMT
you can`t get the true figures because they are deliberately hidden by councils, or they try to.

QED

If an immigrant is given a run down council property that no right minded person would take then moves
out and another immigrant moves in then moves out the figure of 300,000 could be a massive distortion
of what is really happening.Figure alone are not sufficient.

when the tenant is housed there is a questionaire to be completed by the housing provider.
on this the question of nationality is optional
this is deliberately so and used to cover up the truth by councils and the government from the British people.

aw cute, more conspiracy theories. The entire world is always conspiring against the True British People. And against the True German People, and the True American People. It's a sad, sad situation.

there would not be any worries about conspiracy theories if the councils would fill in the information, they don`t they deliberately don't
London councils have a much higher level of refusal to answer the question than councils outside london

it is noteworthy that in those London boroughs that refused to answer the question on nationality showed a relatively low level of lets to foreigners

that makes me suspicious, I don`t know why.

and lfc falls back on his standard tactic of posting and re-posting drivel till everyone gets bored and falls asleep.

akabula
Tis the ones who complain of austerity that want even more in.


..that goes to the heart of liberal mentality. Twisted logic.

'NHS is overstretched. Spend more money! Oh and we should let even more migrants in who will use it'.
'We need lower rents but also want mass immigration, increasing demand for, er, housing'.
'We advocate homosexuality AND feminism. BTW, Islam is wonderful'.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/727143/UK-housing-prefabricated-homes-Government-social-migrants-council-homeless-veterans

here's another 30000   I make that about half a million now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-28035388

They set these up for UK homeless people so not all bad

Just hope the Thomas Crapper doesn't start leaking

saw this
a, who,d give you a mortgage for essentialy a caravan, lodge
b,why would people buy something that is almost certainly going to lose value,
c,people buy a home as an investment as well as somewhere to live,you might as well rent as splash out on something which will eventualy be worthless

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/30/wave-of-prefab-homes-planned...

More than 100,000 pre-packed modular homes could be constructed as the government looks at ways to meet its target to provide a million new homes by 2020

I would buy one for 10k or so be like staying in the little American mad towns

my god this is what we had to resort to after the scum Germans bombed us in WW2

If taken care of they may last but most people will own pellet guns that life i them and use them as shooting practice and just generally use them as party homes.

Build some 20 storey high rises ( i know it's been done and failed or so they say ) but the hotels these days sky high and are kitted out not too bad.So just build them hotel like and a few problems would be sorted in certain areas.

Must be doing prefabs so they can blow them fkcers up in a few year when war breaks out and not lose much cash.

live in them*

shotting cans of beer soon starts to shooting your tin home

they,ll probably pit them in flood planes,
bricks and mortar replaced by cardboard and water,

Could just drop the containers straight of the ship from China right into the floods

Some people would class it as a a boat anyway

Might have to invest in 100 containers and set up a new street

A lot of the post war pre fabs were very popular and lived in for many years longer than intended.

http://www.forwardinglogistics.com/images/sea_ship.jpg


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A lot of the post war pre fabs were very popular and lived in for many years longer than intended.

It says they where meant to last 10 year but some still going

Have you ever been in one in the winter ? You cannot get rid of the damp unless the owner is every hands on

I reckon they would cost more the maintain to a nice level

And seen as it's homeless who would be expected to live in them then the cash goes on food and bills not rotten caravans without wheels.

Ill buy some though if people want to rent them

Can we just park them up in car parks like Travelers

Oct 31, 2016 -- 5:22PM, mobo wrote:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/727143/UK-housing-prefabricated-homes-Government-social-migrants-council-homeless-veteranshere's another 30000   I make that about half a million now.

So to confirm, you just completely made up the 300000 social lettings given to immigrants in a year?  So why did you make that figure up?

no its not  its now over half a million

'demographic shift' coming your way

on top of that it is considered that in the next 5 years half of housing will be taken up by immigrants

and on top of that
some councils won't even release ANY figures on migrant occupancy

hope this helps

so it's half a million social housing lets to immigrants in a year now is it?

no

pre fabs the way forward imo - perfectly acceptable housing - still some here in Ipswich - and they are  lived in by elderly folk  and kept immaculately . They don't look out of place .

can you also get pre-fabricated mosques becuse quite a few of these will be needed

Lots in Leeds, they cost a bit of money to maintain but they're still up..

wot, mosques

"lots in Leeds".  Didn't know Yorkshire folk were so religious

dewsbury is very traditional

3  Mosques , 1 Sikh Temple, 66 Churches..

Isn't it amazing that they are allowed to build those things in England.

Backwards...backwards....backwards...

The usual self loathers ( Breedingmad Edy ) are quibbling about the number of immigrants getting housed.
It doesn't matter whether its 300,000 or 100 both figures are wrong,it should be nil.

On what basis does someone enter your country and expect the ordinary taxpayer to look after their every need.
Anyone who enters your country should be able to look after him or herself.
If after awhile he loses his job or falls on hard times he should go home,that was the old system and it was fair.

Its the same with crime,I hear the usual suspects lying saying they don't commit more crime than locals,even though its nonsense its still not the point,the immigrant crime rate should be zero.

Any crime committed by an immigrant should be followed by immediate deportation.

On 30 June 2013 there were 10,786 prisoners from 160 different countries in the jails of England and Wales.[89] Poland, Jamaica and the Irish Republic formed the highest percentage of foreign nationals in UK prisons.[89] In total, foreigners represented 13% of the prison population,[89] whereas foreign nationals are 13% of the total population in England and Wales.[90] During the 2000s, there was an 111% increase of foreign nationals in UK prisons.[38] According to one study, "there is little evidence to support the theory that the foreign national prison population continues to grow because foreign nationals are more likely to commit crime than are British citizens or more likely to commit crime of a serious nature".[38] The increase may partly be due to the disproportionate number of convicted for drug offences; crimes associated with illegal immigration (fraud and forgery of government documents, and immigration offences); ineffective deportation provisions; and a lack of viable options to custody (which affects bail and sentencing decision making).[38]

Research has found no evidence of an average causal impact of immigration on crime.[6][7][38] One study based on evidence from England and Wales in the 2000s found no evidence of an average causal impact of immigration on crime in England and Wales,.[6] No causal impact and no immigrant differences in the likelihood of being arrested were found for London, which saw large immigration changes.[6] A study of two large waves of immigration to the UK (the late 1990s/early 2000s asylum seekers and the post-2004 inflow from EU accession countries) found that the "first wave led to a modest but significant rise in property crime, while the second wave had a small negative impact. There was no effect on violent crime; arrest rates were not different, and changes in crime cannot be ascribed to crimes against immigrants. The findings are consistent with the notion that differences in labor market opportunities of different migrant groups shape their potential impact on crime."[7] A 2013 study found "that crime is significantly lower in those neighborhoods with sizeable immigrant population shares" and that "the crime reducing effect is substantially enhanced if the enclave is composed of immigrants from the same ethnic background."[8] A 2014 study of property crimes based on the Crime and Justice Survey (CJS) of 2003, (a national representative survey where respondents in England and Wales were asked questions regarding their criminal activities), after taking into account the under-reporting of crimes, even found that "immigrants who are located in London and black immigrants are significantly less criminally active than their native counterparts".[3] Another 2014 study found that "areas that have witnessed the greatest percentage of recent immigrants arriving since 2004 have not witnessed higher levels of robbery, violence, or sex offending" but have "experienced higher levels of drug offenses."[91]

It was reported in 2007 that more than one-fifth of solved crimes in London was committed by immigrants. Around a third of all solved, reported sex offences and a half of all solved, reported frauds in the capital were carried out by non-British citizens.[92] A 2008 study found that the crime rate of Eastern European immigrants was the same as that of the indigenous population.[93]

the prisons are overloaded with foreign prisoners out of all proportion to their overall numbers
every day you open newspapers and see the wonderful vibrant incidents they have brought to this country

let alone the sex trafficking of young women by our wonderful eu partners added to this you have our 'demographic shift' friends in the cities and towns perpetuating their disgusting cultural treatment on white girls

what you cannot escape is the fact that every foreign imported crime or criminal is one more on top of what ever else is happening
without them their would be a lot less crime
just leave the borders open and allow the tourist criminals in

total crime would plummet without these thousands of extra outsiders involved in human trafficking, tourist ATM crime, motorway cruising gangs stealing for scrap - when arrested they clear off home and fly back in a week or two later
NO ONE stops them!!!!
but then people like breeding think we should just leave the door open for them

3 mosques in Dewsbury, lmao

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12112024/Violent-crime-jumps-27-in-new-figures.html
someone says it differently

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12160464/More-than-700-criminal...

https://fullfact.org/immigration/foreigners-prison/

It was reported in 2007 that more than one-fifth of solved crimes in London was committed by immigrants. Around a third of all solved, reported sex offences and a half of all solved, reported frauds in the capital were carried out by non-British citizens.[92] A 2008 study found that the crime rate of Eastern European immigrants was the same as that of the indigenous population.[93]



Badly out of date, have things changed since a huge number have arrived in the intervening 9 years?
Mind you I'll never believe owt you say again, 3 mosques in Dewsbury indeed.

without them all crime rates would be a lot lower - this seems to be missed somehow!!

next you will be telling me that 92 percent of atm crime in london is down to romanians
we can't have that now can we?

I was talking about mosques in Leeds not Dewsbury

London murder rates these days lower than ever .  And i don't even care much for recent immigration .

Sorry BM. There appears to be 25 accoerding to this.

http://mosques.muslimsinbritain.org/maps.php#/town/Leeds

I meant like the ones in the middle east not garages and warehouses.

Another few years and they will disappear as fast as our Churches did through lack of interest..

The defender of the faith(breeding) just cannot accept it.  Islam is the fastest growing and strongest religion on the planet.  Submit or else. They have ways of dealing with unbelievers.

Sharia law now backed by bradford labour MP.  You are going to get many more courts. We already have at least 85  - they are here to stay.  ALLI BA BA - the 'demographic shift' is well on its way.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/nov/01/call-for-action-to-tackle-gr...

‘We’ve had ENOUGH!’ Fuming Italy PM vows to CRIPPLE Brussels unless it sorts out migration


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http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/725540/Migrant-crisis-Italy-PM-Matteo-Renzi-veto-EU-budget-refugee-chaos?utm_source=traffic.outbrain&utm_medium=traffic.outbrain&utm_term=traffic.outbrain&utm_content=traffic.outbrain&utm_campaign=traffic.outbrain

'Vast' EU immigration was a 'MISTAKE', admits multiculturalism expert

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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/724754/multiculturalism-expert-admits-eu-immigration-mistake-brexit?utm_source=traffic.outbrain&utm_medium=traffic.outbrain&utm_term=traffic.outbrain&utm_content=traffic.outbrain&utm_campaign=traffic.outbrain


These racists all over the place.