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I'm om Omezaprozole, too. Have been for years, since it was caled Lanzaprozole. I know about it if I miss a dose.
DIG u are spot on 
Nothing like a couple of Winners
Great gear Kenny and Agree
Nothing like a couple of Winners Great gear Kenny and Agree
The Mrs works in Boots Pharmacy think half the Country are on it 
lol. The two things I'm on would both be unnecessary if I cut down on the booze I reckon. Gout tablets and Lansoprazole. But **** it, it's too late to change now
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ZenMaster 29 Oct 16 00:13
The cider vinegar gives me heartburn as well.
So i chomp on chalk all day long.
I don't like going to the GP, they seem to have a fetish for sticking their fingers up old arses.
The only reason they'd do that is to check for enlarged prostate. But this is an outdated and inaccurate test.
Nowadays it's a simple case of a blood sample being tested for PSA count. I have this test every year. It's good to have reassurance about a cancer with such a high death rate.
The cider vinegar gives me heartburn as well.
So i chomp on chalk all day long.
I don't like going to the GP, they seem to have a fetish for sticking their fingers up old arses.
The only reason they'd do that is to check for enlarged prostate. But this is an outdated and inaccurate test.
Nowadays it's a simple case of a blood sample being tested for PSA count. I have this test every year. It's good to have reassurance about a cancer with such a high death rate.
According to a recent study, older men with prostate cancer - if it's not an aggressive form but a slowly developing type, they should not always get surgery or radiation treatment.
That’s because for most men, having a low to moderate risk of prostate cancer is not a major red flag for early death. If the cancer is so slow-growing they could probably outlive it anyway, and many of these men could die from other causes first. And also having the treatment plus all the possible side effects, so it's like, your going to go one way, what do you want to do.....
That’s because for most men, having a low to moderate risk of prostate cancer is not a major red flag for early death. If the cancer is so slow-growing they could probably outlive it anyway, and many of these men could die from other causes first. And also having the treatment plus all the possible side effects, so it's like, your going to go one way, what do you want to do.....
medications, gout, blood pressure, heart burn and prostate cancer, what a depressingly morbid thread
Not to mention the dreaded Alzheimers and Parkinsons.
forget chalk tablets - as you age your stomach acid gets weaker.
you can't absorb calcium so your bones weaken. throwing chalk down your
throat weakens the acid in your stomach. it's a quick fix. expensive too.
you can buy bicarb soda from Sainsburys(not dr oetker as this is super sheete)
the generic stuff. for 80p. It's a short term fix. but what you need to do
is buy apple cider vinegar(aspels £1.50) get acid and drink some apple juice
with a shot of apple cider vinegar in it. you need more acid not less.
eat boiled cabbage to repair stomach, licorice(short term)- gelatine sweets.
gelatin good for stomach. oregano oil kills candida (stomach problems?)
coconut oil, chicken stock and jelly, diacromacous earth provides silica to
help absorb calcium, building bones. veg grown in sand for silica too. oats for silica.
EGGS - chickens were given no calcium, but still layed eggs with hard calcium shells. Only when silica was withdrawn from their diet did their eggs stop coming.
SILICA you muppets.
put some oats into your yogurt. raw oats.
you can't absorb calcium so your bones weaken. throwing chalk down your
throat weakens the acid in your stomach. it's a quick fix. expensive too.
you can buy bicarb soda from Sainsburys(not dr oetker as this is super sheete)
the generic stuff. for 80p. It's a short term fix. but what you need to do
is buy apple cider vinegar(aspels £1.50) get acid and drink some apple juice
with a shot of apple cider vinegar in it. you need more acid not less.
eat boiled cabbage to repair stomach, licorice(short term)- gelatine sweets.
gelatin good for stomach. oregano oil kills candida (stomach problems?)
coconut oil, chicken stock and jelly, diacromacous earth provides silica to
help absorb calcium, building bones. veg grown in sand for silica too. oats for silica.
EGGS - chickens were given no calcium, but still layed eggs with hard calcium shells. Only when silica was withdrawn from their diet did their eggs stop coming.
SILICA you muppets.
put some oats into your yogurt. raw oats.
The country will soon be seriously top heavy with oldies.....will have to import more immigrants to wipe their arses for minimum wage.
The day I can't wipe my own, the kids have been told to implement the ' pillow over my face' plan
best to ignore that nonsense from the baron. In some dreamy country like Japan, or China? parents walk with their children and both,
the parents as well as their children, felt good.
the parents as well as their children, felt good.
Doctor rang me thurs night at 8,20pm yes 8.20pm
Test results back on PSA count,they were 0.4 he said,they can be fairly certain i do not have any problems,in that department.
Test results back on PSA count,they were 0.4 he said,they can be fairly certain i do not have any problems,in that department.
I know of someone who nearly died by taking too much Cider Vinegar
Go easy on it is my addvice
Go easy on it is my addvice
Had a letter the other day demanding that I attend Bridgwater hospital to have a flexible sigmoidoscope stuck up my arse without anaesthetic. This is apparently their way of celebrating the fact that I've turned 55.
Their reasoning is that it's a mere 150/1 against dying of bowel cancer, and if they could stick this instrument up everybody's arse, then follow up on the 1 in 20 patients with a polyp by sticking a colonoscope much further up their arse to look for more polyps, then cutting away every one of them, 'cos 1 in 15 MAY be cancerous, then they may get the death rate due to bowel cancer down to 1 in 300 from 1 in 150.
That's assuming of course that everyone follows up by regularly posting in samples of their sh1t from 6 consecutive days every few years for further analysis, then following up any trace of blood with more colonoscopy, 'cos 1 in 15 of those positive tests may be for a polyp, of which 1 in 15 may be cancerous.
And I'm supposed to be grateful that I live in Somerset and get offered this for free.
Imagine getting the bus into Bridgwater - that's bad enough. But expecting people to embark on the 3-decade journey to the end of their life with a continual series of hospital appointments, tests, worries, health scares, false positives and internal bleeding and bowel perforation from non-stop arse-probing ... that's just sick.
Have filed the appointment in the wastepaper bin, and that's where every invitation for any kind of health screening is going.
Their reasoning is that it's a mere 150/1 against dying of bowel cancer, and if they could stick this instrument up everybody's arse, then follow up on the 1 in 20 patients with a polyp by sticking a colonoscope much further up their arse to look for more polyps, then cutting away every one of them, 'cos 1 in 15 MAY be cancerous, then they may get the death rate due to bowel cancer down to 1 in 300 from 1 in 150.
That's assuming of course that everyone follows up by regularly posting in samples of their sh1t from 6 consecutive days every few years for further analysis, then following up any trace of blood with more colonoscopy, 'cos 1 in 15 of those positive tests may be for a polyp, of which 1 in 15 may be cancerous.
And I'm supposed to be grateful that I live in Somerset and get offered this for free.
Imagine getting the bus into Bridgwater - that's bad enough. But expecting people to embark on the 3-decade journey to the end of their life with a continual series of hospital appointments, tests, worries, health scares, false positives and internal bleeding and bowel perforation from non-stop arse-probing ... that's just sick.
Have filed the appointment in the wastepaper bin, and that's where every invitation for any kind of health screening is going.
I had some scope thing up my arse that wasn't so bad it was the drinking of laxative and crapping every 5 minutes
after drinking litres of water that is intolerable never again
after drinking litres of water that is intolerable never again
Yes. It would make the bus ride from Taunton to Bridgwater interesting.
I know of someone who nearly died by taking too much Cider Vinegar
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how did he manage that ? it's vile
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how did he manage that ? it's vile
Any side effects from taking Allopurinol?
It says here that you shouldn't drink when you take it as either.
https://www.drugs.com/allopurinol.html
It says here that you shouldn't drink when you take it as either.
https://www.drugs.com/allopurinol.html
i hear plenty of shag.ging slows down the ageing process.
of courses the years go on you'll likely need the assistance of a blue pill and a younger woman
of courses the years go on you'll likely need the assistance of a blue pill and a younger woman
Of course this doesn't compare to the health declining as you get old. However, realising you are old enough to be the dad of a young woman you get talking to is enough to make you
remember a girl asking me to kiss her where it stinks
could'nt be bothered to drive to Bridgewater
could'nt be bothered to drive to Bridgewater
We look back and see all our mistakes...
Unfortunately we cannot go back to change any of them
Waste of time being old unless we are rich....
That was my worst mistake
Unfortunately we cannot go back to change any of them
Waste of time being old unless we are rich....
That was my worst mistake
I have made Mistakes We all Have, why go Back we would only make different mistakes ,
Happy enough with My Lot ,Agree with Facts Big time this shyte of keeping People alive
who are no longer People Needs to STOP, is costing Billions and will cost more as time
goes on ,there is also the Knock on effect to family members who are torn apart by watching a
loved one who doesnt even know who they are Die a slow and horrific confused Death ..
If it were a Dog you say goodbye and be Heart Broken ,I cannot believe what we let human
beings go through ,WHY ?
Happy enough with My Lot ,Agree with Facts Big time this shyte of keeping People alive
who are no longer People Needs to STOP, is costing Billions and will cost more as time
goes on ,there is also the Knock on effect to family members who are torn apart by watching a
loved one who doesnt even know who they are Die a slow and horrific confused Death ..
If it were a Dog you say goodbye and be Heart Broken ,I cannot believe what we let human
beings go through ,WHY ?
What you all forget is a tenner costs the same as a twenty or fifty its a piece of paper that is a promise that can
never be fulfilled..
never be fulfilled..
Capt__F
remember a girl asking me to kiss her where it stinks
could'nt be bothered to drive to Bridgewater
An old one, but still a good 'un.
The British Cellophane factory in Bridgwater's closed now though. If you want to experience the traditional Bridgwater smell, you need to get on the bus to to Bridgwater hospital, which will be full of 55-year-olds on their way to having their arses probed and still expelling the effects of the enemas they took an hour previously.
remember a girl asking me to kiss her where it stinks
could'nt be bothered to drive to Bridgewater
An old one, but still a good 'un.
The British Cellophane factory in Bridgwater's closed now though. If you want to experience the traditional Bridgwater smell, you need to get on the bus to to Bridgwater hospital, which will be full of 55-year-olds on their way to having their arses probed and still expelling the effects of the enemas they took an hour previously.
I would rather die from bowel cancer than have any kind of preventative measures taken that included shoving anything up where the sun doesn't shine. I hope that doesn't sound homophobic.
casemoney • October 30, 2016 1:07 AM GMT
I have made Mistakes We all Have, why go Back we would only make different mistakes ,
That is true case,
but it also depends on how big a mistake we make.
Some we get over, some we don't, plenty of dead motorists, would love to go back and make a different decision
if they were still here to say it.
I am glad you are reasonably happy with your lot case
I should be happy with mine, it could be worse, a lot of people are worse off than me
, but it is hard to forget some things.
I have made Mistakes We all Have, why go Back we would only make different mistakes ,
That is true case,
but it also depends on how big a mistake we make.
Some we get over, some we don't, plenty of dead motorists, would love to go back and make a different decision
if they were still here to say it.
I am glad you are reasonably happy with your lot case
I should be happy with mine, it could be worse, a lot of people are worse off than me
, but it is hard to forget some things.
It is arguable that our lives have already been decided anyway, we are just along for the ride, although we must
act as if we have choice.
A philosophical way of looking at things
ps
I agree with scandanavian about having things shoved up where the sun don't shine
act as if we have choice.
A philosophical way of looking at things
ps
I agree with scandanavian about having things shoved up where the sun don't shine
you have to make sure your wife outlives you so try and marry a younger model when you take the plunge.
scandanavian_haven 30 Oct 16 10:43
I would rather die from bowel cancer than have any kind of preventative measures taken that included shoving anything up where the sun doesn't shine. I hope that doesn't sound homophobic.
What an utterly ridiculous statement.
You'd rather DIE from bowel cancer ? Have you any idea what suffering this causes to a human being.?
And you'd welcome this kind of death ( and have your family share this), when a simple 5 min examination could save your life ?
Unbelievable nonsense.
I would rather die from bowel cancer than have any kind of preventative measures taken that included shoving anything up where the sun doesn't shine. I hope that doesn't sound homophobic.
What an utterly ridiculous statement.
You'd rather DIE from bowel cancer ? Have you any idea what suffering this causes to a human being.?
And you'd welcome this kind of death ( and have your family share this), when a simple 5 min examination could save your life ?
Unbelievable nonsense.
stay away from doctors... unless you are in a car accident.
fact, read screaming's post 19:32, it's virtually pointless.
I'm not going to go around securing myself against death in every which way possible for the rest of my life trying to avoid the inevitable, that we all die.
There is more chance I will die trying to cross the road. Maybe I should develop a shock absorber body suit and wear that every time I go out just in case.
I'm not going to go around securing myself against death in every which way possible for the rest of my life trying to avoid the inevitable, that we all die.
There is more chance I will die trying to cross the road. Maybe I should develop a shock absorber body suit and wear that every time I go out just in case.
Every now and then I get a pain somewhere and think that doesn't feel right and should go to the Doctor and get it checked out because they say that men put off going to the Doctor till its too late.
In the last 10 years I've had about four occasions when I've not been to the Doctor but waited to see if it gets worse. On each occasion its got better on its own.
Of course one day it'll be the real thing and they'll say If only you'd got it checked out sooner. So far so good though.
My latest pain is in my right side ...four months and counting on this one.
In the last 10 years I've had about four occasions when I've not been to the Doctor but waited to see if it gets worse. On each occasion its got better on its own.
Of course one day it'll be the real thing and they'll say If only you'd got it checked out sooner. So far so good though.
My latest pain is in my right side ...four months and counting on this one.
"Simple 5-min examination"
An enema, appalling diarrhoea, then travelling to the hospital in that state. CO2 is pumped into your bowel, mimicking the effect of trapped wind. The booklet they send indicates a minimum 20-minute probe, assuming no polyps are actually spotted. It also claims 80 out of 100 patients find it no more than mildly painful and only 3 out of 100 severely painful. Translation: 1 in 5 procedures is painful or severely painful. There are plenty of accounts online by women who claim it was far worse than childbirth.
And, the booklet goes on cheerfully, it's only rarely that you will suffer severe bleeding or a perforated bowel. Minor bleeding is common, so don't worry about it unless it persists. Yeah right.
Minimum time to be allowed: half a day.
And it's completely ineffective unless any polyps are followed up with a full colonoscopy under anaesthetic, for which there are definite physical risks. But that will still miss a third of polyps.
Polyps which have become adenomatous are ones which MAY, years later, in 1 in 15 cases, go on to be cancerous. They are extremely common. But bowel cancer itself is not, never mind death from bowel cancer.
And to reduce the death rate, you have to follow up this initial test every two years with further colonoscopy, if tests of your sh1t show up the slightest trace of blood, even though this is far more likely to be due to haemorrhoids, irritable bowel or eating beetroot. And if you happen to have been consuming more vitamin C than usual, blood will not show up, so you're in the realm of false negatives. Get persistent diarrhoea, and if you've been screened, then possible bowel cancer will go down to the bottom of your doctor's list.
I could go on, but basically I am not giving up my life now to worry, tests, surgery, false positives, false negatives, anxious waits for results, bus trips to Bridgwater, hospital waiting rooms and just general misery.
There is insufficient evidence to claim cancer screening saves lives, argue experts in a report published in The BMJ, who call for future studies to assess the impact of cancer screening on overall mortality rather than disease-specific mortality alone.
According to Vinay Prasad, assistant professor at Oregon Health & Science University, and colleagues, despite most studies finding a reduction in disease-specific mortality with cancer screening, few have shown reductions in overall mortality, and some have even found an increase in overall mortality.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/304706.php
To put it in plain English, just as many people die who have not been screened for cancer as those who have. They just die of different things instead. As noted above, in the post on prostate cancer, post-mortems show that vast numbers of men die WITH prostate cancer. But they didn't die OF it. They simply had no idea they had it, other than getting caught short sometimes.
"We encourage health care providers to be frank about the limitations of screening - the harms of screening are certain, but the benefits in overall mortality are not. Declining screening may be a reasonable and prudent choice for many people."
I've never learnt to drive, live 3 miles from town and own a dog, with whom I walk (fast) 7 or 8 miles a day between betting shops. I drink alcohol perhaps 3 or 4 times a year and haven't smoked since 1991. I'm 5' 11" and take 30" waist on my trouser, and still need a belt. I have no objection to other people living differently, but don't try and make me feel I also have to go and have go and have (literally) the same tube stuck regularly up my arse as goes up theirs.
An enema, appalling diarrhoea, then travelling to the hospital in that state. CO2 is pumped into your bowel, mimicking the effect of trapped wind. The booklet they send indicates a minimum 20-minute probe, assuming no polyps are actually spotted. It also claims 80 out of 100 patients find it no more than mildly painful and only 3 out of 100 severely painful. Translation: 1 in 5 procedures is painful or severely painful. There are plenty of accounts online by women who claim it was far worse than childbirth.
And, the booklet goes on cheerfully, it's only rarely that you will suffer severe bleeding or a perforated bowel. Minor bleeding is common, so don't worry about it unless it persists. Yeah right.
Minimum time to be allowed: half a day.
And it's completely ineffective unless any polyps are followed up with a full colonoscopy under anaesthetic, for which there are definite physical risks. But that will still miss a third of polyps.
Polyps which have become adenomatous are ones which MAY, years later, in 1 in 15 cases, go on to be cancerous. They are extremely common. But bowel cancer itself is not, never mind death from bowel cancer.
And to reduce the death rate, you have to follow up this initial test every two years with further colonoscopy, if tests of your sh1t show up the slightest trace of blood, even though this is far more likely to be due to haemorrhoids, irritable bowel or eating beetroot. And if you happen to have been consuming more vitamin C than usual, blood will not show up, so you're in the realm of false negatives. Get persistent diarrhoea, and if you've been screened, then possible bowel cancer will go down to the bottom of your doctor's list.
I could go on, but basically I am not giving up my life now to worry, tests, surgery, false positives, false negatives, anxious waits for results, bus trips to Bridgwater, hospital waiting rooms and just general misery.
There is insufficient evidence to claim cancer screening saves lives, argue experts in a report published in The BMJ, who call for future studies to assess the impact of cancer screening on overall mortality rather than disease-specific mortality alone.
According to Vinay Prasad, assistant professor at Oregon Health & Science University, and colleagues, despite most studies finding a reduction in disease-specific mortality with cancer screening, few have shown reductions in overall mortality, and some have even found an increase in overall mortality.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/304706.php
To put it in plain English, just as many people die who have not been screened for cancer as those who have. They just die of different things instead. As noted above, in the post on prostate cancer, post-mortems show that vast numbers of men die WITH prostate cancer. But they didn't die OF it. They simply had no idea they had it, other than getting caught short sometimes.
"We encourage health care providers to be frank about the limitations of screening - the harms of screening are certain, but the benefits in overall mortality are not. Declining screening may be a reasonable and prudent choice for many people."
I've never learnt to drive, live 3 miles from town and own a dog, with whom I walk (fast) 7 or 8 miles a day between betting shops. I drink alcohol perhaps 3 or 4 times a year and haven't smoked since 1991. I'm 5' 11" and take 30" waist on my trouser, and still need a belt. I have no objection to other people living differently, but don't try and make me feel I also have to go and have go and have (literally) the same tube stuck regularly up my arse as goes up theirs.
I ended up in hospital because of a false alarm in 1999. Had a tube down my throat into the stomach was booked to have one up my arris only they couldn't do it till Monday so they let me go home for the weekend.
Doctor told me on Monday that the test results were fine so no need .
Lesson learned.
Doctor told me on Monday that the test results were fine so no need .
Lesson learned.
I found a grey public hair the other day; besides being mortified i yanked another 20 out trying to snaffle the bastard..
Screaming/Scandinavia
I agree it's not a good to have screening and invasive testing without there being any symptoms.
I also agree taking biopsies etc from prostate, bowel etc ( without previous symptoms) , has potential serious consequences.
I don't even a flue jab.Becausei don't want any unnecessary chemicals pumped into my blood stream.
But I will have a yearly blood test for prostate. And will give stool samples every 2 years for bowel cancer checks..
These aren't invasive, but will give alert to any potential problems.
I agree it's not a good to have screening and invasive testing without there being any symptoms.
I also agree taking biopsies etc from prostate, bowel etc ( without previous symptoms) , has potential serious consequences.
I don't even a flue jab.Becausei don't want any unnecessary chemicals pumped into my blood stream.
But I will have a yearly blood test for prostate. And will give stool samples every 2 years for bowel cancer checks..
These aren't invasive, but will give alert to any potential problems.
sounds like they always put the cam down before going up ,a sensible routine imo
But the stool tests are pointless unless you follow up any sign of blood with a colonoscopy, so in practical terms you're committing yourself to one, unless you're prepared to ignore a positive result and spend the rest of your life worrying.
Leaving aside the false positives (it wasn't actually blood, and if it was, it wasn't caused by a polyp), 14 out of 15 follow-ups won't find any adenomatous polyps, and 14 out of 15 which do won't go on to kill you.
And if your stool test is negative, good luck convincing your GP to send you for a colonoscopy if you go on to develop chronic diarrhoea or lumps in your stomach during the 2 years before your next test.
To be clear, the stool test is offered when you're 60. In my part of the country 55-year-olds are being used as guinea pigs to discover whether sticking a camera and scissors up your arse before that date is justified. Assuming no side effects of this become apparent over the next decade (hah!), then it will be rolled out nationwide. I don't doubt that, along with further, regular stool tests, it will reduce the death rate due to bowel cancer from 1 in 300 to 1 in 150, as they hope. But it will have no effect on the age at which you die. There are far too many other ways of achieving that.
Look. If I smoked, drank, snorted or drove, and were generally a fat, sweaty bast@rd, then I'd say cancer screening is the price I need to pay in return for living that way. But the fact is that such characters are the least likely actually to bother with it. It's the well people who do, who thereby turn themselves into the worried well (and sometimes the unwell).
Leaving aside the false positives (it wasn't actually blood, and if it was, it wasn't caused by a polyp), 14 out of 15 follow-ups won't find any adenomatous polyps, and 14 out of 15 which do won't go on to kill you.
And if your stool test is negative, good luck convincing your GP to send you for a colonoscopy if you go on to develop chronic diarrhoea or lumps in your stomach during the 2 years before your next test.
To be clear, the stool test is offered when you're 60. In my part of the country 55-year-olds are being used as guinea pigs to discover whether sticking a camera and scissors up your arse before that date is justified. Assuming no side effects of this become apparent over the next decade (hah!), then it will be rolled out nationwide. I don't doubt that, along with further, regular stool tests, it will reduce the death rate due to bowel cancer from 1 in 300 to 1 in 150, as they hope. But it will have no effect on the age at which you die. There are far too many other ways of achieving that.
Look. If I smoked, drank, snorted or drove, and were generally a fat, sweaty bast@rd, then I'd say cancer screening is the price I need to pay in return for living that way. But the fact is that such characters are the least likely actually to bother with it. It's the well people who do, who thereby turn themselves into the worried well (and sometimes the unwell).
The stool test looks for blood in the stool.
Blood in the stool is quite common. There are many reasons for this. Cancer is simply one of them.
In fact there are 32 conditions associated with bloody or red coloured stools.
Blood in the stool is quite common. There are many reasons for this. Cancer is simply one of them.
In fact there are 32 conditions associated with bloody or red coloured stools.
I haven't seen any figures for this, but if you take the stool test regularly they're quite likely to find some blood and invite you in to have the camera up your arse.
sounds like they always put the cam down before going up ,a sensible routine imo
It is usual, but not always.
Rest assured that if they do go up before going down, they'll give the camera a swill under the tap in-between.
It is usual, but not always.
Rest assured that if they do go up before going down, they'll give the camera a swill under the tap in-between.
thanks Doc ,very reassuring to know .
TBH i have had the cam down ,was a very unnerving experience .
As i entered the room t,there was an bed on wheels ,a chair and a table .
I had preliminarily signed some paperwork but with a view to further discussion ,but as soon as i went through the door it was like a non reverseable process and was met with two large burley female nurses ,one of which quickly had me in the elbow and hand prison armlock .I quickly agreed to take it sitting down as i was thrust into the chair ,the floor was awash with fluid and they both had plastic disposable aprons on .
Once the camera was down it was fine and i pleaded with murmers and hums for the big lass to loosen her grip .
was all over in 5 mins
TBH i have had the cam down ,was a very unnerving experience .
As i entered the room t,there was an bed on wheels ,a chair and a table .
I had preliminarily signed some paperwork but with a view to further discussion ,but as soon as i went through the door it was like a non reverseable process and was met with two large burley female nurses ,one of which quickly had me in the elbow and hand prison armlock .I quickly agreed to take it sitting down as i was thrust into the chair ,the floor was awash with fluid and they both had plastic disposable aprons on .
Once the camera was down it was fine and i pleaded with murmers and hums for the big lass to loosen her grip .
was all over in 5 mins
If you are of a nervous disposition, don't eat beetroot. HTH.
http://goutpal.net/
For all the gout sufferers. And there must be a few on here.
For all the gout sufferers. And there must be a few on here.
Uric acid crystallising in the joints is blamed for gout.
The normal level of uric acid in the blood is 3.4 to 7.0 mg/dL for men.
70% of uric acid produced in the body is due to body functions. The rest comes from your diet.
Two reasons for high levels of uric acid are your kidneys not clearing it properly.
Or you're getting too much from your food.
You can get a metre to monitor your uric acid levels if you prefer the non drug approach to getting your levels down.
There are several types and some are far better than the others.
http://www.webmedcentral.com/wmcpdf/Article_WMC001778.pdf
The normal level of uric acid in the blood is 3.4 to 7.0 mg/dL for men.
70% of uric acid produced in the body is due to body functions. The rest comes from your diet.
Two reasons for high levels of uric acid are your kidneys not clearing it properly.
Or you're getting too much from your food.
You can get a metre to monitor your uric acid levels if you prefer the non drug approach to getting your levels down.
There are several types and some are far better than the others.
http://www.webmedcentral.com/wmcpdf/Article_WMC001778.pdf
Gout may also have a hereditary/genetic cause (possibly made worse by diet etc.). That certainly seems to be true in my immediate family.
Three options open to gout sufferers.
Take Allopurinol, modify their diets or take anti-inflammatory drugs when it comes.
If left untreated gout will get worse as they get older, then they'll have no option but to address it.
Some people can't tolerate Allopurinol, or don't fancy taking another drug if they're already taking drugs for something else.
Uric acid meters are useful if you take the dietary route.
Take Allopurinol, modify their diets or take anti-inflammatory drugs when it comes.
If left untreated gout will get worse as they get older, then they'll have no option but to address it.
Some people can't tolerate Allopurinol, or don't fancy taking another drug if they're already taking drugs for something else.
Uric acid meters are useful if you take the dietary route.
I have gout too. I am the only one in the family , immediate or extended , to suffer with it.
Everyone on here getting worried the winter is coming in
Preparing to eat healthier to maybe last another few years whats the point?
Just do what you want as you all end up in the same , cremated , buried or rotten away in an old folks home getting prodded with sticks and getting cold dinners from the guvnor.
Preparing to eat healthier to maybe last another few years whats the point?
Just do what you want as you all end up in the same , cremated , buried or rotten away in an old folks home getting prodded with sticks and getting cold dinners from the guvnor.
I don't think living longer is the issue its living a life without long term chronic illness, which as people live longer, is becoming more the norm.
I know a bloke in his forties who suffered from gout in his teens, he's been on Allopurinol all his life.
Over fifty puts you in the most likely age group to get gout.
You don't have to be old to suffer from gout.
Over fifty puts you in the most likely age group to get gout.
You don't have to be old to suffer from gout.
Heavy drinking makes the likelihood of you getting gout much higher.
Drinking is a major factor for most sufferers.
Drinking is a major factor for most sufferers.
health is wealth has be one of the best sayings there is as well as an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.
I'm going on a health kick from the start of the month tomorrow, hoping to last up until Christmas day without eating any sugary snacks whatsoever, cleared my fridge and cupboards of biscuits and the like, lots of fruit, veg and fish coming my way. I've never smoked and don't drink often so lucky in that respects.
Managed to eliminate bread from my diet a while ago but unfortunately not yet wheat fully, although cutting out bread has really helped, the muscle achness I used to suffer from was crippling, and I attribute it fully down to wheat, it's still there but has been much alleviated.
Recently left my fairly well paid job over a 30 pound dispute so more time on my hands to exercise as well, been sitting on my arse to much lately, they say that no exercise in a day is just as bad as smoking 20 a day? no idea how they come up with that logic but will start morning runs from 5am too.
good diet and exercise is the simple key to life surely, if you feel better you simply get more done.
Sugar in general is very bad for you skin, breaks up the collagen.
I'm going on a health kick from the start of the month tomorrow, hoping to last up until Christmas day without eating any sugary snacks whatsoever, cleared my fridge and cupboards of biscuits and the like, lots of fruit, veg and fish coming my way. I've never smoked and don't drink often so lucky in that respects.
Managed to eliminate bread from my diet a while ago but unfortunately not yet wheat fully, although cutting out bread has really helped, the muscle achness I used to suffer from was crippling, and I attribute it fully down to wheat, it's still there but has been much alleviated.
Recently left my fairly well paid job over a 30 pound dispute so more time on my hands to exercise as well, been sitting on my arse to much lately, they say that no exercise in a day is just as bad as smoking 20 a day? no idea how they come up with that logic but will start morning runs from 5am too.
good diet and exercise is the simple key to life surely, if you feel better you simply get more done.
Sugar in general is very bad for you skin, breaks up the collagen.
sorry have nothing to say about gout, never heard of it till I read this thread.
I am on a health kick as well. Diet starts Thursday until Xmas week. At that point I will break out.
Once you've got the foods with added sugar out of your diet keeping to a healthy eating routine is a lot easier.
I am surprised you have never heard of gout scandanavian, gout was a bigger problem in the past, and extremely painful I understand?
It only used to affect the rich, because of their of alcohol and their rich diet.
I eat all the sugar and fat I can get, otherwise my life would too miserable, it is not worth me prolonging my life.
I exercise a bit, that helps a little.
It only used to affect the rich, because of their of alcohol and their rich diet.
I eat all the sugar and fat I can get, otherwise my life would too miserable, it is not worth me prolonging my life.
I exercise a bit, that helps a little.
Dorian Gray had the right idea, unfortunately that was only fiction
As I wrote before too much uric acid in the blood can crystallise in the joints.
Yet many people with elevated levels of uric acid do not get gout.
The pain and swelling from gout is caused by your immune system attacking the needles of crystallised uric acid.
Allopurinol blocks uric acid production, which lowers your uric acid levels allowing the needles to dissolve back into the blood.
This might take a year before you are out of the woods.
Many patients get gout a few weeks after starting Allopurinol.
So some doctors prescribe taking Colchicine at the same time as Allopurinol as a preventative measure for perhaps six months.
Yet many people with elevated levels of uric acid do not get gout.
The pain and swelling from gout is caused by your immune system attacking the needles of crystallised uric acid.
Allopurinol blocks uric acid production, which lowers your uric acid levels allowing the needles to dissolve back into the blood.
This might take a year before you are out of the woods.
Many patients get gout a few weeks after starting Allopurinol.
So some doctors prescribe taking Colchicine at the same time as Allopurinol as a preventative measure for perhaps six months.
My latest pain is in my right side ...four months and counting on this one
I had this pain in my right side that kept moving around from my side, through my groin and down my leg (as it progressed). After 6 months I consulted the Dr who put it down to an adductor strain, but I was never convinced this was right.
Another 6 months passed and the pain wasn't getting any better; on occasions I could barely walk with it but these days are few and far between. Again, after discussing this with the doctor he sent me for an x-ray where it was found to be mild bi-lateral degeneration of the hip(osteoarthritis apparently). Although both are affected I feel no pain on my left side.
I find aspirin helps on bad days; 2 x 500mg on waking and another 2 six hours later; that is usually sufficient for me and it could be weeks before I need painkillers again. I just never know how each day is going to be... it's a strange pattern with no consistency at all.
Now I have it confirmed my mind is relaxed and I am dealing with it a lot better than not knowing at all.
As several know on here I have had a number of issues relating to the subject matter, not forgetting the above. I've had two heart attacks, leading to 3 angiograms and 8 stents. I had a (mini) stroke 2 years ago where it was discovered that my BP was 220/110; it took 6 months to get it below 200 and even today my readings are still on the high side.
I could go on but suffice to say I agree with all on here; getting old is no fun at all.
I had this pain in my right side that kept moving around from my side, through my groin and down my leg (as it progressed). After 6 months I consulted the Dr who put it down to an adductor strain, but I was never convinced this was right.
Another 6 months passed and the pain wasn't getting any better; on occasions I could barely walk with it but these days are few and far between. Again, after discussing this with the doctor he sent me for an x-ray where it was found to be mild bi-lateral degeneration of the hip(osteoarthritis apparently). Although both are affected I feel no pain on my left side.
I find aspirin helps on bad days; 2 x 500mg on waking and another 2 six hours later; that is usually sufficient for me and it could be weeks before I need painkillers again. I just never know how each day is going to be... it's a strange pattern with no consistency at all.
Now I have it confirmed my mind is relaxed and I am dealing with it a lot better than not knowing at all.
As several know on here I have had a number of issues relating to the subject matter, not forgetting the above. I've had two heart attacks, leading to 3 angiograms and 8 stents. I had a (mini) stroke 2 years ago where it was discovered that my BP was 220/110; it took 6 months to get it below 200 and even today my readings are still on the high side.
I could go on but suffice to say I agree with all on here; getting old is no fun at all.
GO PLACIDLY AMID THE NOISE AND HASTE, AND REMEMBER WHAT PEACE THERE MAY BE IN SILENCE. AS FAR AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story. Avoid loud and agressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the council of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. NURTURE STRENGTH OF SPIRIT TO SHIELD YOU IN SUDDEN MISFORTUNE. BUT DO NOT DISTRESS YOURSELF WITH IMAGININGS. Many fears are borne of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace in God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labours and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the council of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. NURTURE STRENGTH OF SPIRIT TO SHIELD YOU IN SUDDEN MISFORTUNE. BUT DO NOT DISTRESS YOURSELF WITH IMAGININGS. Many fears are borne of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace in God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labours and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world.
My older brother had a heart attack last Friday, he has had 5 stents put in and he was touch and go if he would survive. He is 54, never smoked nor drank alcohol in his entire life and was a top amateur boxer, fit as a fiddle. King's College Hospital saved him, his wonderful wife has only this year been diagnosed with m.s. Life sucks sometimes
Thank you Capt_F, I just burst into tears when I was told but he is recovering slowly but is completely exhausted all the time. Hopefully he will get back on his feet soon, such a great man, husband and Father to three fantastic children. So upsetting.
Slippy feckin gutted to hear about your brother,I am of the opinion if your times up its up.Live life to the max drink and eat what makes you happy.
Sorry to hear that, Slippy. Is this the brother who posted on TRF as Sky? Hope he makes a good recovery.
One of my brothers had a heart attack in his 40s and another in his 50s. He's just turned 61 and is still hanging in there.
One of my brothers had a heart attack in his 40s and another in his 50s. He's just turned 61 and is still hanging in there.
61 is also the age that my eldest brother died of prostate cancer, back in 2007.
Getting old is no fun but it beats the alternative, as someone mentioned above.
Getting old is no fun but it beats the alternative, as someone mentioned above.
listen to others, even the dull and ignorant;
He's obviously never experienced Mobo's postings.
He's obviously never experienced Mobo's postings.
StewartyB is citing DESIDERATA by Max Ehrmann very apropos in this age even though it was written in the twenties.
Sorry to hear about your families' medical travails Slippy ...all the best.
Sorry to hear about your families' medical travails Slippy ...all the best.
''Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.''
That's the bit missing off the end.
Not a gout sufferer I would image.
That's the bit missing off the end.
Not a gout sufferer I would image.
TambourineMan has beaten me to it. I love this poem. I copied it all out by hand a few years ago and keep it in my bedside table. Hadn't read it for a while. Thanks for posting it stewerty b
Desiderata
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http://www.appleseeds.org/desidert.htm
Desiderata
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http://www.appleseeds.org/desidert.htm
Thank you crags and M_D 
, such a shock to the system that I nearly lost my brother.
, such a shock to the system that I nearly lost my brother.
It wasn't Sky crags by the way but the one older than me, Sky is 49 and in good form. I would be beyond distraught if anything bad happened to him, far more than all the other siblings put together.
Hi slippy - good luck to your brother and for a full recovery. Just been for tests myself with the lad.
All the best to your brother Slippy. I know only too well how distressing it can be when someone close takes ill.
MrBaboon
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StewartyB ...where are you quoting from please ?
It was found in an old Baltimore (Ireland) church dated 1692.
MrBaboon
02 Nov 16 18:42
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StewartyB ...where are you quoting from please ?
It was found in an old Baltimore (Ireland) church dated 1692.
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