Good News, Lily Allen goes to the calais jungle...

Homeless UK citizens would maybe swap places with them as it's getting into winter

Why doesn't the thick hypocrite twaat live there then, and while you're at it have a word with the law abiding public who have to put up with crimes committed by those friendly jungle people.

Those pathetic rich hypocrites make my blood boil, I don't give a damn about their worthless lefty drivel. If you're really that concerned live there full time. Thought not, pathetic HYPOCRITE.

Lily Allen is the kind of over-privileged, Grouch-Club inhabiting, platitude sprayer this country sadly specialises in, in these 'post-Diana' times.

Not content with putting vaguely risqué (well, for anyone just this side of a Convent) lyrics over nursery rhyme melodies and have the whole world bringing her off for being 'edgy' and lead hipster of Planet Now, she has to come out with this load of trite, over-emotive bo11ocks.

Why can't anyone just go 'Sit the fk down and shut the fk up Lily, preferably at a Notting Hill dinner party, far, far away from a microphone, a camera and a Wi-Fi signal. Pretty much everyone in the Calais Jungle is a criminal, has committed criminal acts or has given money to a criminal in order to, illegally, get to where they are now. This whole issue is purely a matter for French Law Enforcement and has nothing to do with Britain, except when a UK lorry driver takes a battering off one of these thugs after stopping his cab due the barricades they've put up in the road. If you want to cry piteous crocodile tears and spout sh1te about Britain's moral duty, then talk about the Zataari Refugee Camp in Jordan (a good friend of GB incidentally) where TRUE refugees, who engage with tried and trusted International Law, have made home, this being the first safe haven they reach after leaving Syria - as opposed to trekking across Europe in order to barge their way into a country their exaggerated sense of self-entitlement deems MUST take them, despite all true morality and international law saying otherwise.'

Actually, on second thoughts that's a bit long-winded isn't it?

She'd never stop whingeing long enough to get past 'Sit the fk down and shut the fk up...'

What is it about people like her who think they can speak for the country.
A musical nonentity who only got exposure because of her fathers contacts.

On behalf of Great Britain, I'd like to apologise to the rest of the world for Lily Allen

Quality roger.

Katie Hopkins getting in on the act!

Katie Hopkins ‏@KTHopkins  1h1 hour ago
Do not apologise for this country Allen, you cretin. This great country prefers to look after its own. Get over it.

You gotta love Katie at times.

Hopkins wrote about the merits of Trump & Clinton earlier and the various accusations being thrown about, she said:

'I'd rather be grabbed by the pu$$y than governed by one'

Way to go sister

I hope LA tries to lock horns with Katie.
She'll get torn to bits. be good reading.

roger - long winded...yes. Bullseye/nail on head etc...yes!

It's not fair

Was going to pile on with the rest of you against Lily Allen but now I see that uberkünt Katie Hopkins has joined in... What to do?

The good old Daily Mail is apoplectic and highly distressed.

10,000+ comments under the article.
Never seen that many (unless it's been a major news story)

Thousands of riotous criminals kicking the door in and there's imbecilic do-gooding rich folk  egging em on. 

"Good News, Lily Allen goes to the calais jungle"
Did she hand out a bagfull on money ?

What a sad state of affairs that we've created a society so bitter and twisted that there is no compassion in left in so many people. Lily Allen may be far from perfect but in one thread many of you have proved yourself a lot worse. The ignorance is staggering.

Coach, your post made me..............







SMILE

what has asparagus done, nothing? they are in France and we are in Britain. In my view that is a nice arrangement.

Rogerthebutler has it spot on,these are criminals.

The people donating money,the people providing bikes,the people going there with provisions should be charged with aiding and abetting.

The people in these camps are consistent violent law breakers,none of them should ever be let into Britain under any circumstances.

Oct 13, 2016 -- 9:54AM, asparagus wrote:

What a sad state of affairs that we've created a society so bitter and twisted that there is no compassion in left in so many people. Lily Allen may be far from perfect but in one thread many of you have proved yourself a lot worse. The ignorance is staggering.

Sorry but this is wrong.

You have no clue what anyone here is doing, what charities and causes they support or what pressure groups they give time and energy to.

Reactionary emotive mewlings from an over-privileged popstar, giving succour to an overwhelmingly criminal group, whilst sidelining thousands who play by the rules yet receive little or no media / 'sleb spotlighting?

I can think of very little that is worse TBH.

Most of us give to some charity or other. Children dying every minute through lack of water so I choose Wateraid. I would not insist others do the same, but Lily et al would be far better actually saving many lives for a few quid, rather than supporting criminals and thugs who chose to be where they are.

Well said RTB.

If they had correctly claimed asylum they wouldn't be in Calais. Another one who wants a lodger but it takes time, ask Mrs Balls.

I don't pretend to speak for everyone but I do believe that underneath the bluster and the points-scoring most people in here (as a snapshot of the whole UK) are decent people who will help others if they can

However, we can also smell bullsh1t at 10 paces and it just boils my p1ss more than somewhat when the likes of Lilly Allen wade in with their rinky-dink size sixes and unilaterally declares themselves a representative of the whole of our nation, before coming out with the supremest of bo11ocks.

There are so many foreigners committing crime in this country and she wants to let more in.  You can see how sound her reasoning is.

Lily Allen left school when she was 15.

She went to 13 different schools, and was expelled from several for drinking (obviously under-age) and smoking.

A rounded, well-educated, individual, therefore - thought capable of speaking for Britain ... if you are of similar ilk - or the BBC.

Although Lily has no right to apologise on a nations behalf, she is 100% correct when she blames England and the west for the
troubles. England's greed has caused misery for lands all over the world for hundreds of years

They then have the cheek to complain when the people's lives they have ruined look for refuge.
Maybe if they along with other parts of the West kept their greedy hands to themselves we wouldn't have this 'problem' in the first place.

Oct 13, 2016 -- 2:01PM, jamesdean wrote:

Although Lily has no right to apologise on a nations behalf, she is 100% correct when she blames England and the west for thetroubles. England's greed has caused misery for lands all over the world for hundreds of yearsThey then have the cheek to complain when the people's lives they have ruined look for refuge.Maybe if they along with other parts of the West kept their greedy hands to themselves we wouldn't have this 'problem' in the first place.

England, eh? We're real barstewards compared with the Saintly Scots, the Wondrous Welsh and the I've-not-got-an-alliteration-hey-yes-I-have' Irish.

Unfortunately, 'having the cheek to complain' is about all we can do. Well that and rely on International Law, a belief that criminals should face the consequences of their actions, that our greedy hands gave many countries a functioning civil service, law and order, health provision (however rudimentary), recreation, sanitation and just how many centuries should it take for countries with abundant natural resources to evolve into fully functioning civilised contributors to C21?

Although Lily has no right to apologise on a nations behalf, she is 100% correct when she blames England and the west for the
troubles. England's greed has caused misery for lands all over the world for hundreds of years


So why exactly would half the world's waifs and strays crawl halfway around the world to try and get here, if this is such an awful country populated with greedheads who make every foreigner's life a misery?

Make no mistake, the criminals of the Calais Jungle wouldn't think twice about trampling over the likes of Allen, Corbyn (and all the other lefty apologists for the criminals) to get here.

If you believe that then you're off your head roger. England didn't conquer many lands so they could give them anything.
They used an iron fist so they could take over for their own benefit and greed

Now they're reaping what they sow with the damage that they have caused and rightly so imo

England is not under any obligation to help any other country, anywhere in the world.
We don`t have to account for our behavior to anyone but ourselves, we are not subject to any other country or any other people.
If they are not happy with England that is fine, there is a whole other world that will be happy to help, they can try Russia, or Saudi, or Brazil, or many hundreds of others.

We will not be in the least offended should they decide that this dreadful place is not for them.
let other countries stare in wonder at England.

So why exactly would half the world's waifs and strays crawl halfway around the world to try and get here, if this is such an awful country populated with greedheads who make every foreigner's life a misery?

Because you've left their country a war torn state of rubble perhaps?

Do you honestly think they would be coming over here if they had peace and stability in their own land?

The trouble is you're fed p1sh on the news and believe what you want to believe

the British empire was the greatest force for good that this world has ever seen.

jamesdean these counties do not have to come to England to act in a civilized way.

now if these countries are so backward that they are incapable of listening to what they are told by the US and Britain, that is fine.
they are free to go about things their way.
however if they cannot listen well we have only so much patience.
and unfortunately times up.

That sums it up lfc1971

Now, ask yourself, who are the real terrorists?

I don`t think the world should presume on the good nature of the English people. it`s bad manners to do so.

The west has created a lot of the mess, Clinton should be damned instead of elected President and the EU has meddled with stability in the middle east thinking it could impose democracy,absolute madness.We should get out,stop out and encourage refugees to return as part of a negotiated settlement with Assad then wipe out ISIS with Russian support.

no, I think we should leave it to Russia at this point. and this includes any responsibility for migrants and financial aid, billions of US dollars. and the seemingly impossible task of educating this terrible region and ideology in the ways of European democratic values.

jamesdean    13 Oct 16 14:24 


Do you honestly think they would be coming over here if they had peace and stability in their own land?


Many, possibly thousands of them are not seeking peace and stability, they have come to destroy those things for all. I have no answers, no one has, but letting more Muslims in means more terrorism, this is fact. It has to stop.

Oct 13, 2016 -- 2:19PM, jamesdean wrote:

If you believe that then you're off your head roger. England didn't conquer many lands so they could give them anything.They used an iron fist so they could take over for their own benefit and greedNow they're reaping what they sow with the damage that they have caused and rightly so imo

Of course I don't believe The British Empire conquered half the world for altruistic reasons!

The benefits I outlined were and are a definite positive byproduct - or in the case of somewhere like Zimbabwe, would be, if the implementation of political ideology hadn't trumped a working society benefiting the majority (see also Venezuela)

We are the terrorists saddo. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter
Not every Muslim is a terrorist just like not every Irish Catholic is an IRA bomber, like not every Englishman can be compared to the dirty British empire.

Fwiw I'm not a luvvie lefty saying we should let in every tom dick and harry.
All I'm saying is Lily was wrong to apologise on a nation's behalf but 100% right to put the blame at the hands of England and the West.

What we are seeing now from these war torn Countries is a reaction stemmed from the West's greed over many years.

Can you really blame people who have literally fk all for wanting to better their lives by coming here, whether that be to work
or for an easy life? Put yourself in their shoes and the chances are, we'd all be trying to do the same.

Historical tennis will not solve much. We are where we are, and need to tackle the Islamification of Europe, there can be no long term good in it.

* for non Islamics.

do not listen to the anti British bias and bigotry from certain areas.
make no mistake Ireland got `independence` 100 years ago and since that time more Irish people have come to live and work in England than ever before. are they thankful? no.
it is time for these countries to grow up and take responsibility for themselves.
now Ireland has been, in theory, and independent country for 100 years, but without the fact that they had the automatic right to live and work in Britain the Irish economy would not have lasted 5 years.

Ireland is welcome to take as many migrants as it wishes, and at the same time England has the right to say to Ireland your citizens no longer have the automatic right to live and work in England
That is for citizens of the UK.
now it is fine Ireland can do so if it wishes, it is within their power.
but do not lecture England on what it must do.

Historical tennis will not solve much. We are where we are

So lets just forget the facts of how we got where we are and who's fault all this is in the first place and blame everyone else while we reap the rewards and millions of others suffer?  No thanks

And then to have the audacity to complain at the results of their own actions, mind boggling.

but we are not under any obligation to accept you version of the facts jamesdean, that`s ok. if other countries disagree with British and US policy they are quite at liberty to try something different.
Britain is one country, we see things from our perspective.
I happen to believe that the world would do well to listen
if it doesn't well there is not much we can do about that.

You can start by stop sticking your greedy nose in where it's not wanted. Likes you's done most recently in Iraq under false pretences. Killing thousands in the process not to mention the 100+ of your own that were killed for no reason

If the English deserve all it gets [according to Jamesdean] then shall we complain about the Romans and Vikings invading us? Thought not.

ah no I disagree, I think you will find that it is 10s of thousands that have been killed in Iraq, by Iraqis

ah no I disagree, I think you will find that it is 10s of thousands that have been killed in Iraq, by Iraqis

You've obviously got a very blinkered view. Once you take the rose tinted spectacles off, maybe the reality of your own
lots greed and terror will become more apparent

that`s fine, not a problem. no one need apply to come and live and work in England. There is no reason that some other great country can not step up to the challenge and rival the greatness of Englands history.
and take on the responsibility. perhaps soon we will be hearing of the kingdom of Poland, or even China.
very well, bit life is a strict schoolmaster, it is easy to be critical from the sidelines.

There's no 'greatness' in England's history. They've caused mayhem and terror all over the world

I think that is why Lily feels ashamed to be British as do many others

I happen to believe that England is the greatest country the world has ever seen.

we won`t agree on that, in fairness the US runs it very close.

Change greatest for greediest and you'd be closer to the mark.

JAMES  and others hate this country. It does make you wonder. I suppose they just want the muslim takeover and help it with their rhetoric. They will walk all over you when they get hegemony in the cities.  It will only take about 20 percent and they will be there.  Invite them all in james - welcome to your future hell.

and if you think the muslims are any different !!! they will grab power wherever they can cause chaos. We need to stand up to them and apologist/haters like yourself.

James needs to check out how mainstream Islamist authorities treat christians, liberals and their own apostates.
Have a look how they treat 10 to 15 year old girls.  One married every 7 secs.  Check out UN reports and Save The Children etc etc etc.

he's a car crash

James - I would respectfully point out that Calais is in France. A safe, rich country with wonderful wine, cheeses, superb football team and beautiful countryside. They clearly have a different view of England than yours and long to come here.

The fact that those in the Jungle want to use illegal means to leave France and enter the UK, immediately classifies them as criminals.

but look at the ones they let in - crimes committed out of all proportion to their numbers
As a friend of mine sayd  - IT'S TREASURE ISLAND

"Invite them all in james - welcome to your future hell"
yep ..just like Afghanistan,Iraq,Libya and Syria...
Muslims killing Muslims ...just imagine what they'd do to you Kufurs..now where's the slitting knife.
Allah Akbar

jamesdean 13 Oct 16 15:32 Joined: 15 Sep 05 | Topic/replies: 10,139 | Blogger: jamesdean's blog
We are the terrorists saddo. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter
Not every Muslim is a terrorist just like not every Irish Catholic is an IRA bomber, like not every Englishman can be compared to the dirty British empire.

Fwiw I'm not a luvvie lefty saying we should let in every tom dick and harry.
All I'm saying is Lily was wrong to apologise on a nation's behalf but 100% right to put the blame at the hands of England and the West.

What we are seeing now from these war torn Countries is a reaction stemmed from the West's greed over many years.


Try and read what I've wrote before posting all that "let them all in nonsense"

We know every Muslim is not a terrorist james, but every terrorist in Europe is a Muslim. If we can't keep the wrong uns out, we need to keep them all out until we find a method of doing so.

Agree with most of that saddo. Possibly with the exception of the children and their mothers.
More vetting has to be done on the men, definitely.

what an idiot dean is. zero historical knowledge and perspective. these sh1teholes we are on about are just that because the natives have made them so. the exodus from islamic countries is down to the nature of it, and the yearning some have to escape it. we did not introduce them to their vicious practices, they have always had them. unfortunately, globalisation and werstern technology has allowed them to spread. the iraq war was a grave error, but the slaughter in iraq post-war is being carried out by islamoloonies, not by the west, who spend billions trying to stop iraqis killing each other. blair is guilty of denial of islamic reality; he thought that if he got rid of the evil hussein, the people would all become social democrats. not under islam, pluralism is forbidden, as is any other way of life.

there are 50 islamic countries in the world. not one has any vestige of respect for alternative lifestyles or tolerance of difference. the west ended slavery long ago; these countries never have, even now.

people are flooding into europe fleeing islmo-loonies engaged in mind-bogglingly vicious mass murder in algeria, nigeria, sudan, somalia, mali, egypt, tunisia, libya, syria, afghanistan, malaysia, kenya, pakistan, bangladesh, indonesia etc... there are many more.

boko haram, al quaeda, al shabaab, the muslim brotherhood, taleban, abbu sayyaf, isis and various others are entirely home-made. nowt to do with anyone else. ignorant wanchors like dean fall into the 'moral equivalence' trap and shift the blame west, rather than where it belongs.

Agree with most of that saddo. Possibly with the exception of the children and their mothers.

some of the mothers are at it and loads of these 8 year olds have beards and are smoking 20 Gauloise a day.

asparagus
What a sad state of affairs that we've created a society so bitter and twisted that there is no compassion in left in so many people. Lily Allen may be far from perfect but in one thread many of you have proved yourself a lot worse. The ignorance is staggering.

Actually your ignorance is staggering. The acts of criminality at Calais are staggering with the French government trying to play it down.
Lilly Allen speaks for herself and not the rest of the UK. She is no different from the likes of Brand or Izzard. Well off, not affected by immigration and looking to take the moral high ground.

Liberal facists are very funny.

*fascists

jamesdean
There's no 'greatness' in England's history. They've caused mayhem and terror all over the world
I think that is why Lily feels ashamed to be British as do many others

Does England = Britain?
Going back in history England was still the most civilised country in the world. They were brutal times but England still stood above the rest.
For the last 300+ years it's been Britain and again we've stood head and shoulders above the rest. I'm proud to be British.

grappler - that's a superb post.

Deserving of a higher platform than the BF forum.

Damn well said.

james and allen and the rest do not realise  that taking this position is one of siding with the establishment that wishes to wreck the wages and conditions of large parts of the workforce.

Jamesdean hates his country,hates his history and is sadly typical of the self loather.
He is likes Facts and Aspragus in that regard.

Its some jump to blame the plight of the criminals in Calais on British history.

Unfortunately you are very ignorant wildman

Calais is a direct result of Rourke's Drift.
Well, not really!!!


We owned the place till, guess who, lost it!!!

Yes another woman, Mary.
Just like Allen - who wants to give our country up to the muslims!! haha.

is this publicity just because she is on the 'where are you now file' ?
a failing career, gets an injection fro this article, could bring out a charidy record for xmas.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/720733/insult-islam-must-die-undercover-footage-former-Tory-candidate-ITV-Exposure

this is what allen and jame's friends have in stall for you

Absolute  one sided, biased, garbage the grappler. What you fail to mention in your post is that the west including England armed half of these lunatics that are causing the mayhem over there and continue to do so for substantial gains. Then they try and take the moral high ground with all the civilised nonsense, we're here to help sh1te. The west are their for their own benefit and greed. If greed wasn't the reason they've got involved, why aren't they also getting involved in the other war torn Countries that have no monetary value to them?  Why aren't England and the West demanding the Saudi's play their part? Why aren't the Americans going after the Saudi's for their part in 9/11?  The reason is because yous only ever get involved when it is financially beneficial. So please stop all the 'here to help' sh1te


Not every Country sees life the same way. When in Rome etc
I don't agree with most of their cultures but at the end of the day it's theirs. Who are we to get involved and try to rule, tell them what to do. You also fail to mention the many other Countries the British empire invaded, pillaged and divided.

As for you wildman, I don't hate my Country. I'm not British

As for you wildman, I don't hate my Country. I'm not British

Ah but are you English?

No.

The British isles covers oirland so he's British.

muslims have the answer for allen - segregation - she wouldn't be allowed to behave like she did - I see muslims shut down parts of london yesterday in a big segregated march - you would wonder what country you were living in!!!

for james
england isn't their country, so why are they trying to dictate to us - they will continue with their cult's promotion until they force it all upon us

adolescent garbage from dean. the west would never recoup the colossal expense of trying to bring some sort of stability to the region, even if they appropriated every barrel of oil.you are short on specifics because you know nowt. so 'the west' is getting involved, and spending fortunes confident that its greed will be satisfied? of course thats it. afghanisatan has cost billions; no financial benefit there for anyone. all that humanitarian aid for nothing but ungrateful jihadis blowing people up. hard though it is for a cynical fool like you to understand, western motives are altruistic. you wont have it because you know nothing except that england and the west in general are the root of all evil in the world. the fact is that western european liberalism is the apotheosis of civilisation and the greatest force for good yet devised, which is why the whole world, even places we have had no influence over(something you ignore) want to live here, or north america or aus/nz. nowhere else.

i didnt mention the empire because that wasnt the point. you said the refugees were seeking to get into europe as a result of british meddling. i said they were escaping their own horrible countries because they want what we have created, ie, human rights, freedom of expression, welfare, tolerance, protection from arbitrary arrest and execution etc that will never do not exist in the middle east and never will.

these 'lunatics' you mention. who made them slaughter hundreds of thousands of innocents? most of the weapons actually come from russia and the ex-communist states, btw. they are causing people to flee. the west didnt create them.

Oct 13, 2016 -- 8:56PM, mobo wrote:

muslims have the answer for allen - segregation - she wouldn't be allowed to behave like she did - I see muslims shut down parts of london yesterday in a big segregated march - you would wonder what country you were living in!!!

and where was law enforcement?

Lily Allen and her do gooder multi millionaire society chums are pathetic.

Living in Westminster, Knightsbridge etc in a multi millionaire paradise how do they see the real England and the havoc this invasion is creating. They may see things differently if Living in other parts of London, Luton, Birmingham etc.

How would they feel a if a massive mosque went up at the bottom of their road, immigrant families on benefits living either side of them, their local butcher/restaurants being halal only. With a refugee centre directly opposite their house. I feel they may have a different view of the situation.

Real people are struggling to make ends meet, see a huge part of their wages going in tax and all these economic migrants getting huge benefits.

If those do gooders want to do something, then all chip in, and send the money over for their upkeep. Until you have no money left or they can fund themselves, whichever happens first

grappler at 7.35 hit the nail firmly on the head.

I have my own beliefs about recent,unnecessary interference from the west in Syria but I have to give due praise to grapplers clinical summary of the problems in the middle east and muslim countries in general. A fine post bonny lad and worthy of a larger audience so that our eejit liberal elite might understand better.

Yep, good post grappler.

The only question i would would ask Lilly, would she be happy to send her kids to one of those trojan schools in Birmingham ?

A man of Jewish descent is demanding an apology after pop singer Lily Allen labelled him a “Nazi” for not supporting mass migration and told him to be “twice as ashamed” because he is Jewish.
Ms. Allen hit the headlines earlier this week after the BBC made a film about her visiting the Calais ‘Jungle’ migrant camp in northern France, where she apologised “on behalf of my country” to an Afghan migrant there.

A man known as Malcolm took issue her comments on Twitter, insisting he and the nation had nothing to apologise for. “The antics of that no mark @lilyallen!! Where the F does she get off [sic] apologising for the UK! Not in my name, you idiot!” he wrote on the social media site.

Ms. Allen responded: “Your grandchildren will be apologising for you and your hatrid [sic] in years to come just like the Germans do for the Nazis.”

He then explained: “I am a Jew with family that perished in the Nazi death camps! Your comparison is offensive!”

She declined to apologise, instead claiming the man was even guiltier by virtue of this ethnic and religious background: “Then you should be twice as ashamed.”

talk about digging a hole for herself

Lily has been most persuasive.

I suggest she stays there and we take the Afghan kid in a straight swap.

I am beside myself with excitement to see the guardian's view of this

Cumberbunch, Izzard, now Allen. These types lecturing normal people about what to think will continue to have the reverse effect. We need more of this.

Got well paid for it. Way to go Lily to resurrect yer 'singing' career.