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Dr Crippen
17 Sep 16 13:41
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Why give them a second chance though?
Wouldn't an automatic ban like when caught drinking and driving, send a clearer signal that the practice will not be tolerated under any circumstances?

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By:
hologon
When: 17 Sep 16 14:01
Agree totally, a ban might scare a few and probably save a few lives as well
By:
ebulGery
When: 17 Sep 16 14:01
Perhaps they should hang himShocked...give an even clearer message Dr Crippen

After all they hung you?

Punishments have to be in proportion

Although I accept if it costing lives, then the punishment should be increased
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Sep 16 14:15
Although I accept if it costing lives, then the punishment should be increased

ebulGery, you've just hung a bloke for answering his mobile phone whilst driving.

How are you going to increase his punishment there?
By:
parispike
When: 17 Sep 16 14:16
Can't see any reason for an automatic ban not to apply.

Using a mobile while driving is an abhorrent, selfish practice without any justification. Perhaps if people knew that a ban would occur they'd be less sanguine about taking the risk....?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Sep 16 14:17
Should be hanged - purely for the pedants of course.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Sep 16 14:23
Absolutely parispike.

No one's forcing them to use the phone whilst driving. It's purely their own selfish choice.

If they think that chatting on the phone at the wheel is more important than safety, then take away their licence to drive.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 17 Sep 16 14:30
Have you ever been a passenger, in a car, with the driver preoccupied with other activities?

I have, and it was my very own eldest daughter!

M62, heading for Manchester to "The Eagles" concert.

Stopped for refreshments, but with me double locked in the car, with the alarm going off.

On the road again, with said driver messing around in her bag, looking at the phone and drinking coffee, and eating a sandwich, and all the rest!

The thing is that I could feel the left to right corrections, in the steering, and this was at 70mph!

Unfortunately, the way to divorce your own daughter is to make any criticism of her driving!
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 17 Sep 16 14:42
No excuse, every phone has an answer phone. Should be an instant ban.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 17 Sep 16 14:46
That's life in the fast lane for you, Aunty.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 17 Sep 16 14:47
Oh, and for possibly the first time ever I agree with the bad Dr.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Sep 16 14:47
I watched a bus coming down the road towards me on one occasion, and the driver was using one hand to take a bite out of a sandwich.

The fact that he thought the risk was worth taking, tells it's own story about the low level that deterrents are set at for these sorts of crimes.

The punishments should be set at a level that will deter people from committing them, not to be looked on simply as an acceptable hazard.
Which is how many people view fines for driving offences such as these.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 17 Sep 16 14:50
It isn't just the phone, it's all other distractions!

My beautiful wife was driven into when stationary at traffic lights.

She could see the car coming, and with the driver looking at her mirror, whilst putting on eye makeup.

She was hit so hard that she was pushed half a car length into the car in front.
By:
geoff m
When: 17 Sep 16 14:51
Sad state of society today where responding/looking at the phone appears to be more important to some than anything else happening around them
Social blight on society.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 17 Sep 16 14:58
It is, and even a problem with pedestrians, who are so engrossed with their conversations that they are
not aware of traffic around them!
By:
ebulGery
When: 17 Sep 16 15:04
Dr Crippen  • September 17, 2016 2:15 PM BST 
Although I accept if it costing lives, then the punishment should be increased
ebulGery, you've just hung a bloke for answering his mobile phone whilst driving.
How are you going to increase his punishment there?


I was being slightly facetious Dr CrippenBlush

How many people have been killed by a vehicle being driven by a person using a mobile phone?
apart from this sad case

How many accidents have involved one driver using a mobile phone?

If it is increasing then the punishment must be increased.

One can never remove all risk from driving.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Sep 16 15:14
I was being slightly facetious Dr CrippenBlush

And I was with my reply.Cry
By:
bix
When: 17 Sep 16 15:28
My friend Nazan Fennell's 13yo daughter was killed in Nov. 2011 by a texting lorry driver. Naz is frequently on TV and radio and in the press as she has now devoted her life to improving road safety. Nazan lost her job, her home and her health as a result of the loss of her daughter and is now slowly coming off medication 5 years later.
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 17 Sep 16 16:55
6 month ban would wake their ideas up.
By:
bix
When: 17 Sep 16 18:34
The driver who killed Naz's daughter got 2 months jail for dangerous driving and 4 months for perverting the course of justice. The perverting the course of justice was because after he saw her under the truck he climbed back in the cab and deleted his messages.
By:
lmfao
When: 17 Sep 16 18:39
so whats the law?is hands free allowed?

i've got an old brick of a phone which is seldom on for incoming calls anyway - unless by prior arrangemet
By:
moisok
When: 17 Sep 16 18:47
I am incensed!!  Why should I have to stop texting while driving one of my sports cars on my way to a drunken orgy, if I am late.  It is up to others to make allowances for my driving, which will clearly be impaired.  It is called being considerate to other drivers.
Can't see what all the fuss is about.  If people are in the way it is there fault.
I also get enraged when people beep their horns at me when I am applying mascara to my eyelashes when on the motorway.
It really beggars belief.   

However I am quids in having laid the 1 - 1 correct score on everton/boro match.
pip pip!!!!
By:
moisok
When: 17 Sep 16 18:48
or layed even
By:
moisok
When: 17 Sep 16 18:50
I would have a .5 browing mounted on one of my motors
I have a cooper with the sliding glass roof - I could just pop out and let out a small burst - that should stop 'em.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Sep 16 18:51
ps hands free is nearly as distracting as holding a mobile as you can easily be pulled into a long discussion or argument etc etc etc - this completely takes you away from concentrating on driving.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Sep 16 18:51
.5 Browning oops
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 17 Sep 16 19:10
laid = correct
By:
moisok
When: 17 Sep 16 19:17
I don't want to fall out with you - you nasty homophone - but - i faught it woz a lay in gambolling tirms

i could be wrong - i very often am - but not two nite - I have scooped it on evertone
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 17 Sep 16 19:38
you've never heard of "i've laid that for 200 quid"
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 17 Sep 16 19:43
You've got me thinking now!

but there's no word layed Confused
By:
moisok
When: 17 Sep 16 19:46
We will have to go toe to tow on this one ron!!

I insist on blunderbusses in balloons at 5000 metres

funny though - I have always said layed as far as betting is concerned

but my two groups of hens, I kept, would have 'laid' eggs

weird I admit!!!
By:
moisok
When: 17 Sep 16 19:47
Ron   - USE FINNISH!!!!!
By:
ebulGery
When: 17 Sep 16 19:56
This is partly caused by our modern life, we use our mobiles all the time, and texting of course.

If I get a call while driving I never answer, I wait until I can pull over and park, then answer it.

I don't live a very busy life though.

It looks as if the penalties will need to be increased.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Sep 16 20:00
I always answer mine.  You never know it might be an emergency.

Sometimes they might be running out of beer and other serious problems.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Sep 16 20:04
On my way back from 'ooop norfe' - well midlands -   M40   guy in a jag - middle lane - about 70/80  - we woz following around same speed - seemed a bit odd as he never pulled into inside lane - there woz very little traffic

we eventually went round him   - the kant was on the phone - ha ha
By:
Clerkmore
When: 17 Sep 16 20:48
Does it matter what the penalty is when there are never any police patrols trying to catch the offenders?
By:
parispike
When: 17 Sep 16 21:05
Actually I think it matters more Clerkmore.

If you think about it.....
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Sep 16 21:11
The only area where the police can be affective and you rarely see any.

Too busy looking after their careers to bother about enforcing the laws on the streets.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 17 Sep 16 21:33
mobile more dangerous than drink driving
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Sep 16 21:34
Anyone texting while driving, even stationary, should get an instant 1 year (minimum) ban. Or even imprisonment.
Much worse than talking on the phone or eating a sandwich, users aren't looking at the road.

Also though, while distractions are being clamped down on, Big roadside advertising isn't remotely necessary and quite dangerous.
One I'm thinking of is on the M5, just after joining from the M6, Huge moving pictures right by the side of a busy motorway. There are loads of others.
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