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scandanavian_haven
09 Sep 16 18:45
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The company I work for have taken £30 out of my pay without my knowledge or say so until I found out the day I was paid, they deducted £30 because I cost them £30 by accident, but still, does anyone know if this is actually illegal and if so, what should/could I do about it ? would appreciate some answers
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Report kincsem September 9, 2016 7:07 PM BST
Someone authorised something.  Ask the payroll department.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER September 9, 2016 7:09 PM BST
You have a pay packet in this day and age?
Report TEN2FOLLOWER September 9, 2016 7:12 PM BST
I work for a massive company, and a few years ago, someone left a laptop unattended and it was stolen.
He had £100 a month deducted from his wage for 8 months.
Company policy said that this was the decision to be made by a senior manager at a certain level.
Company policy cannot flout the law of the land, but for my company do to this, I am certain that it is legal.  But surely you should have had some sort of disciplinary hearing.
Report scandanavian_haven September 9, 2016 7:13 PM BST
I'm paid a monthly salary I jus call it that, that's beside the point in hand

I had no knowledge of this, and didn't agree to it, surely this is illegal, it's not in my contract either.
Report scandanavian_haven September 9, 2016 7:15 PM BST
The manager of the company didn't even talk to be about it, he was informed, no conversation even took place about it.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER September 9, 2016 7:15 PM BST
SH, it's not a case of agreeing.  My colleague didn't.  But he knew about it.
Report scandanavian_haven September 9, 2016 7:19 PM BST
so it's legal? even though there's nothing in the contract and I didn't agree? that doesn't sound right
Report TEN2FOLLOWER September 9, 2016 7:23 PM BST
HR rules that aren't in your contract can still apply.

I assume that your contract doesn't say that you can't masturbate naked in the canteen every day at noon.  But that doesn't mean that you wouldn't get sacked for doing that.

You need to examine your company HR code.  Is it online at work?

But broadly, I would guess it is legal for a company to fine you the expense.  But surely you should have the chance of a faor hearing.
Report s.kenbo September 9, 2016 7:45 PM BST
How did you cost them £30?
Report BRIGGSY08 September 9, 2016 7:57 PM BST
He ate 9 big macs
Report s.kenbo September 9, 2016 8:15 PM BST
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Report Makybe_Diva September 9, 2016 8:57 PM BST
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Report Cider September 10, 2016 9:46 AM BST
13 Right not to suffer unauthorised deductions.

(1)An employer shall not make a deduction from wages of a worker employed by him unless—

(a)the deduction is required or authorised to be made by virtue of a statutory provision or a relevant provision of the worker’s contract, or

(b)the worker has previously signified in writing his agreement or consent to the making of the deduction.

(2)In this section “relevant provision”, in relation to a worker’s contract, means a provision of the contract comprised—

(a)in one or more written terms of the contract of which the employer has given the worker a copy on an occasion prior to the employer making the deduction in question, or

(b)in one or more terms of the contract (whether express or implied and, if express, whether oral or in writing) the existence and effect, or combined effect, of which in relation to the worker the employer has notified to the worker in writing on such an occasion.

(3)Where the total amount of wages paid on any occasion by an employer to a worker employed by him is less than the total amount of the wages properly payable by him to the worker on that occasion (after deductions), the amount of the deficiency shall be treated for the purposes of this Part as a deduction made by the employer from the worker’s wages on that occasion.

(4)Subsection (3) does not apply in so far as the deficiency is attributable to an error of any description on the part of the employer affecting the computation by him of the gross amount of the wages properly payable by him to the worker on that occasion.

(5)For the purposes of this section a relevant provision of a worker’s contract having effect by virtue of a variation of the contract does not operate to authorise the making of a deduction on account of any conduct of the worker, or any other event occurring, before the variation took effect.

(6)For the purposes of this section an agreement or consent signified by a worker does not operate to authorise the making of a deduction on account of any conduct of the worker, or any other event occurring, before the agreement or consent was signified.

(7)This section does not affect any other statutory provision by virtue of which a sum payable to a worker by his employer but not constituting “wages” within the meaning of this Part is not to be subject to a deduction at the instance of the employer.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/18/section/13
Report FredRescue September 10, 2016 10:57 AM BST
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I work for a massive company, and a few years ago, someone left a laptop unattended and it was stolen.
He had £100 a month deducted from his wage for 8 months.
Company policy said that this was the decision to be made by a senior manager at a certain level.
Company policy cannot flout the law of the land, but for my company do to this, I am certain that it is legal.  But surely you should have had some sort of disciplinary hearing.




Name and shame.

What company?
Report akabula September 10, 2016 7:21 PM BST
Scandi unless you signed for deductions to be made it is against employment law for your company to do so.
I was involved in loads of disciplinaries where employees have been found guilty of theft after an investigation or have admitted their offence.
In either case we had to pay them any wages owed without deduction unless they authorised us to take back the amount stolen.
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