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Ramruma
07 Sep 16 12:21
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-37294307

It is a very badly written story but apparently some old boy who may or may not have known the family came over and punched the baby, leaving a "very big fist mark" on her forehead because he thought the baby was a doll.

WTF is going on? Even taking the excuse at face value, who punches other people's dolls?

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By:
Capt__F
When: 07 Sep 16 13:02
must be mentally illSad
By:
pantsonfire
When: 07 Sep 16 13:02
I'm not of course defending the old boy's actions in any way but why on earth would you take a newborn baby to a supermarket? Presumably taking it up and down the freezer aisles etc. I am reminded of a thread on a different forum where a couple were complaining that a football club insisted that they had to buy a ticket for their week old baby who they wanted to attend a Premier league football match with them. When I pointed out that this was perhaps a little early for the child I was met with abuse from several posters, to mind my own business etc. I think that the world is going mad, or maybe I'm just a sad miserable old fart. Most likely both.
By:
cardifffc
When: 07 Sep 16 13:08
captf...................pantsonfire=mentally ill
By:
kincsem
When: 07 Sep 16 13:16
Strange story
How was the woman holding the baby?  It seems odd that someone could punch a baby in its mother's arms.

I wanted to punch a few women who brought their babies to work.  You have to bite your tongue and say something nice.

Logic doesn't count when women have babies.
When I boarded a flight a woman had her baby on my seat and refused to move the little darling.  Cabin staff had to tell her to free the seat and stand there until she complied.
By:
Crisp77
When: 07 Sep 16 13:28
CCTV evidence just been released:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFm1DKamuIY&feature=youtu.be&t=20s
By:
Ramruma
When: 07 Sep 16 13:33
There is a standard sequence with new babies.

1) count fingers and toes
2) take them home
3) introduce them to pets and siblings
4) take them to both sets of grandparents
5) take them out and show them off to everyone you meet
6) take them to work and show colleagues

Clearly this mum was at step 5.

The trick is not to tell the proud parents it looks like every other baby on the planet: say how cute its little hands are, and how it has its mother's nose. But don't punch the baby and don't punch its dolls either. In fact, best all round is just to steer clear of fisticuffs.
By:
kincsem
When: 07 Sep 16 13:44
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By:
johnnythebull
When: 07 Sep 16 14:45
Grin
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 07 Sep 16 15:41
I'm thinking this man might have had dementia.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 07 Sep 16 15:59
Dementia?

Were you forget to punch a baby or not?
By:
kenny mann
When: 07 Sep 16 16:03
Wish I puncj all the annoying babies I hear crying their heads off for attentionh
By:
ZenMaster
When: 07 Sep 16 16:17
To be fair, the mother does look like a blow up doll.

This adds to the confusion.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 07 Sep 16 16:56
I was in a park earlier this Summer having a pint with the missus and my dog and a boy aged about 7 walked over and punched my dog on the snout. His Father didn't even apologise and said he was "only playing." I wonder how that brat will turn out in life, not too good methinks. The dog was lying under a bench to get some shade and was half asleep at the time, to say I was seething is an understatement.
By:
Johnny_Mustang
When: 07 Sep 16 17:10
Disgusting behaviour. Who the f**k shops in Tesco these days?
By:
Ramruma
When: 07 Sep 16 17:14
Tesco Finest beef sandwiches are excellent.
By:
themightymac
When: 07 Sep 16 17:18
slippy you should have punched the father.

p.s. I take it the dog wasn`t a Boxer LaughLaugh
By:
Gallivanter
When: 07 Sep 16 17:41
Maybe he read this book:

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1502743531
By:
ZenMaster
When: 07 Sep 16 19:47
Tesco Finest beef sandwiches are excellent.


Gave me the 'giddy ups'
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Sep 16 20:11
haven't you seen the new website - punch my doll for me, coz i am too lazy.com
By:
tobermory
When: 23 Nov 16 21:24
A man who punched a five-day-old girl in the face at a supermarket has been fined after being convicted of assault.

David Hardy, 64, was told to pay a total of £1,500 after hitting Elsie Temple as she lay asleep in her carry cot inside a trolley.

The attack happened at a Tesco store when Elsie’s mother, Amy Duckers, beckoned to a friend to look at her “beautiful baby”. Duckers told the court Hardy had rushed over and punched her daughter with a “clenched fist”.

She told Manchester magistrates court: “He came rushing up and as I looked over my shoulder he punched her in the face. I heard the slap of the punch as well. I said: ‘You have hit my baby,’ and he said: ‘No I didn’t.’”

Duckers said Elsie had instantly cried out. The attack on 5 September happened in front of her older daughter, Libby Brown, seven, who was said to be hysterical and was heard asking: “Is she going to die?”

Security guards at the supermarket in Baguley, Greater Manchester, summoned police and paramedics, the court heard. Elsie was taken to Wythenshawe hospital and kept in overnight.

In a Facebook post that went viral, Duckers, a 27-year-old carer, described the attack and called Hardy “sick, twisted and vile”. She said the incident had left her “absolutely distraught”.

Hardy, a company director, at first denied hitting the child before claiming he believed that she was a doll. He later apologised.

In a police interview, Hardy said: “I saw a young girl hanging over the shopping trolley. I honestly thought it was her dolly. I said: ‘I’m going to wake your baby up.’ It looked like a doll to me. It wasn’t moving. I didn’t punch it; I just tapped it in its face.”


He told the court that he curled in his fingers and “flicked” at what he thought was a doll. He added: “I thought I was just going to make the girl laugh. I don’t know why I thought that.”

He added: “I can remember the mother crying and quite rightly so. I would be devastated myself. It was like a state of disbelief. Her husband came and I said: ‘I’m really sorry, pal.’”

Hardy, who had pleaded not guilty to common assault, was fined £900, and ordered to pay £100 compensation and £500 towards prosecution costs. Elsie’s family reacted with fury in the public gallery when the district judge, Sam Goozee, announced he was prepared to fine the defendant rather than give him a community sentence.

The judge said he accepted that the attack had been an isolated incident and “completely out of character”.

Finding him guilty, Goozee told Hardy he found his explanation for the attack implausible. He said: “I’m satisfied, so that I’m sure, that at the point you struck out you did so … knowing Elsie was a baby, not a doll.”
By:
tobermory
When: 23 Nov 16 21:42
The baby's family yelled 'f*****g joke' as he was sentenced and confronted Hardy outside court yelling: 'That sentence is disgusting. You punched a baby in the face. How do you sleep at night?'.

Elsie's grandfather John Duckers said that a fine instead of a jail term was 'unbelievable for punching five day old baby'.
He added: 'He may as well have let him off with nothing. Accident or not that baby has been assaulted. It's disgusting I can't believe it. That's just one month's pay for him. Should have been a custodial sentence for him'.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 23 Nov 16 22:16
He was out supermarket shopping with his wife, he will have been in a zombie frame of mind. Hs eyes will have been glazed over and his mind numb from the relentless monotony of nodding his head and saying " whatever you want to get, just put it in the fooking trolly"

The baby was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
By:
Facts
When: 23 Nov 16 23:03
You think it's funny do you ?
By:
TheChaser
When: 23 Nov 16 23:05
By:
Roger The Butler
When: 23 Nov 16 23:15
pantsonfire
07 Sep 16 13:02
I'm not of course defending the old boy's actions in any way but why on earth would you take a newborn baby to a supermarket?


Why on earth wouldn't you? Babies are fairly portable, and people need to shop. Therefore a fairly normal thing to do.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 24 Nov 16 04:26
Is it Okay to punch babies in supermarkets now? I always wanted to try it...
By:
Ramruma
When: 24 Nov 16 09:28
Is it Okay to punch babies in supermarkets now? I always wanted to try it...

The family feels the sentence is inadequate. They may well be right, but families usually think that. But I'd be surprised if there is an upsurge in supermarket baby-punching following a lenient sentence.

The whole thing remains unexplained and perhaps inexplicable. Makybe_Diva might be along the right lines in positing the onset of dementia. Even so, does dementia often cause random acts of violence?
By:
TheChaser
When: 24 Nov 16 10:19
He remembers a lot for a guy with dementia Grin
By:
ZenMaster
When: 24 Nov 16 10:19
You think it's funny do you ?


No, i think it is more than likely a mental illness issue.

You support mental health issues don't you Facts?

Retrospectively speaking.
By:
TheChaser
When: 24 Nov 16 10:27
facts will houses people with illnesses he is an all round great lad
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