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You atheist supermen will have to get a petition up to change the name of the new super lab
in London. Because Francis Crick thought Darwinism was preposterous.
CHECK OUT THE LINK.
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You atheist supermen will have to get a petition up to change the name of the new super lab
in London. Because Francis Crick thought Darwinism was preposterous.
CHECK OUT THE LINK.
odds against one protein forming (many many many proteins are needed to make a single cell organism)
100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
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Zorro , the problem is that the chances of having a friend in the sky is that number squared.
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plenty of proof there. 1948 israel a state again.
yesterday the sanhedrin chose a new high priest for third temple. a book called the bible. it out sells every other book every year. booksellers stopped putting it on the list as it would be there every week. out sells darwin books every year. |
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I do not see what the creation of Israel has to do with the creation of life. This country created Israel, so that is easy.
Personally I wish we had not, because of the appalling loss of life this had led to. Darwin showed how life adapts to its environment. When life reproduces small mutations can occur. These mutations are held in our DNA (Darwin did not discover DNA that came later). By demonstrating this Darwin showed all life has been created by this process from very simple beginnings, so no intelligent designer was needed. He showed a tree of all life. He did not show how life started to begin with. Crick is arguing that it is statistically impossible for DNA to have developed by chance, he shows this for the necessary amino acid chains. Therefor he is arguing there must have an intelligent designer to have at least created DNA. But life started somewhere??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
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Since Crick is arguing how statistically improbable it was for life to have started at all,
then this could lead to a conclusion we may be the only life in the universe? Rather kills off Start Trek and all those other wonderful Science Fiction we have created, that is sad  |
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I will miss the Klingons
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it is impossible for life to exist anywhere, that is not in doubt.
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Animals adapt to their surroundings they do not evolve. A cat does not change into a dog. It grows long fur in the cold, short fur in the heat. It adapts.
We kill foxes, call them vermin. But if I went about shooting pet collies or yorkies I would be arrested. They are the same species. Because of a different shape idiots are calling them different. a man who's three feet tall is as much a man as usain bolt. But people ascribe value to people by what they do? Is Usain Bolt more evolved than Jesse Owens? It's all this false measuring of qualities that are artificial. If I ingest snake poison in small quantities my body adapts and over time I become immune to snake bites. I might also get other benefits, I might not suffer from arthritis anymore. Did i evolve or adapt. |
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As Darwin admitted, he was "a very ordinary boy, rather below the common standard of intellect ... I have no great quickness of apprehension ... My power to follow a long & purely abstract train of thought is very limited"
He joined the Navy as a last minute ditch & was basically an outcast, his job was to collect fossils wherever they landed Darwinsim was basically promoted by the CIA Man is basically 98% identical to an Ape or Chimp , but that 2% is HUGE & cannot simply be modified over time without 'intervention' |
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zorrostrikes • September 2, 2016 1:17 AM BST
Animals adapt to their surroundings they do not evolve The process of EVOLUTION is adapting to their environment. If there was an intelligent designer then that designer would have to work on the environment. Animals are not designed from scratch. EVOLUTION has been proved. As to how life started nobody has a clue, or even where? EVOLUTION is adaptation of a species. It is a mutation in reproduction. If this mutation offers an advantage it prospers, if it offers none it wont. |
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it's been revised down to 95 percent - i looked it up.
A mouse is at 92 percent - so a mouse has a better chance to evolve into a chimp . than a chimp into a man? |
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all mutation is degenerative - it destroys data - it does not add.
Disease is a mutation. get an x-ray and you will get a mutation. stay on the beach too long and you get a mutation. |
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stop watching x-men
stop watching car adverts that say - the renault upyerarse has evolved. it's propaganda. I went back to school and evolved? it's inappropriate usage. |
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Not in evolutionary terms Zorro
Australopithecus the missing link between us and chimpanzee. A chimp that came down from the trees, because trees were reducing. It gradually developed a straight neck because it needed to keep its head up to look for predators on the ground. With a straight neck it could produce a wider range of sounds....so language starts to develop. Language drives our intelligence. Australopithecus were replaced by hominids about 2 million years ago. Flat heads and still a bit hairy, but definitely us. We are the winners, **** Sapiens. |
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All the variety of life is caused by mutation in reproduction.
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H omo
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Doesn't add up Gery
Chimps are still Chimps , put them in their natural habitat & they'll be straight off up the nearest tree ! They still Cannot Talk  |
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mc moonbeam...............don't encourage that fruitcake zorro.............or are you a fruitcake as well
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The chimp in question hasn't undergone natural selection because its habitat still exists.
If man were to wipe out all forests within a lifetime then that would be unnatural selection and hence the chimp wouldn't have had chance to adapt to a new environment. You could argue that chimps have been kept in captivity for generations, how come we don't see evolution in action. Well you probably are seeing it you just don't know what you are looking for. Take for eg. The footage of a monkey collecting wood to start a fire and then roasting marshmallows on a stick. Monkies couldn't light fires before man brought them down from the trees. |
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Monkeys
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We have not evolved from Chimps...about 5 million years ago we were the same animal..
The significant development in hominids has all taken place since we were forced down from the trees. The earth was covered with large forests but this changed. The biggest difference between humans and all animals is our incredible communication ability. We communicate concepts, this is magnitudes greater than any other living animal can do. We record our communication. |
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Kanzi the Bonobo chimp(I just googled it
 ) that can roast marshmallows has been taught this....He did not work it out himself. It is still very impressive though. |
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One of the saddest things about us hominids or humans as we are now....is how incredibly violent we are.
We have Muslims at the top of the violent list just now, but all Humans are violent by nature. It is our Achilles heel I feel. Chimpanzee can be violent, but nothing like as bad. We need to study Chimpanzee more, they are our closest relatives, to try and learn something about ourselves I feel |
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It's not about whether a chimp works something out or sees another do it and learns.
The general question from a creationist standpoint is to ask 'where are all the inbetweens' and 'why are there still monkeys at all?' If evolution is the correct answer then the pattern of monkeys learning could be it in action, since that is believed what occured during the stone age. The chimp that is in the wild in its natural habitat wouldnt need to learn fire creation and so remains a chimp chucking its 5hit around. Besides the long game is a very long game, the names given to animals are arbitrary and man made, this is just a moment in time that could appear to have stopped over the brief amount of time humans have been intelligent enough to assess it.(ofc it hasnt stopped really) Thats how I interpret it anyway. |
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and the 'inbetweens' as it were got wiped out
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cardifffc
Are you some kind of forum moderator? You fking ****... |
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It always tickles me how those who believe that the bible was anything other than a collection of stories that in many respects contradicts itself.
To say the bible must be true because it sells is exactly the sales chatter that the JWs use on the doorstep. They say that Jesus must have been what they say he was otherwise he'd have been forgotten. Thats not true. Had the myth of Jesus and the bible been doused at the time they were created then they wouldnt sell even in secondhand bookshops shops. But because the fish that were sold on the stall of the believers were some magical ones that couldnt at the time get called out then the myth becomes greater until it becomes a legend. What the believers in the bible really need to work on is the flaw that they always come to, which is the part they cant explain themselves, that non of the logic stands up, and when we reach this point the answer is always 'dont question god'. |
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and more to the point the bible's account of creation is straightforward nonsense. Attempting to discredit science is only a diversion from the obvious flaws in the "holy book".
If someone wants to believe that because it is difficult to explain the origins of the universe and of life that the answer might be some sort of superior entity, then fair enough, but the bible is nothing to do with such an entity and clearly is the completely the creation of men. |
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Ive read quite a lot of bible interpretations by believers and sometimes that say 'we see bits of god's personality' or 'we can understand his message by the explanations he gives'
Then other times when they cant think of an answer say 'sometimes god tells us that hes god and doesnt have to explain himself'  or like when Lot who had already been given grace by angels then goes on to f uck his own daughters (you couldnt even make it up....oh hang on somebody did) that 'god supplies up with all alternatives to view possibility'really laughable bobbins, people actually try and find reasons to suggest the defective stories of human nature has a cause to it. |
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* obviously there is a 'cause' for all actions but reverse engineering some gathered together stories and attempting to link a narrative through them is pathetic.
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John 3: 16
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Genesis 1: 27
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Toyah Willcox track 1. 'Its a mystery'
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God was a triune james
He apparently was himself and his son, yet needed 40 days in the desert to think about it. |
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Primal Scream track 2 - space blues 2
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'why are there still monkeys at all?'
an interesting question dustybin. The reason is monkeys are perfectly adapted to their environment of living in trees. There is no need for them to evolve. The monkeys who had to adapt by evolution were those Monkeys who began living on the ground. Because of lack of forest. These monkeys eventually evolved into hominids, but we are the only hominid species to survive. So we are the monkeys who have come down from the trees. We must remember the immense time scales here, it took something like 3 million years! |
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I was paraphrasing ebul
And I thought id pretty much said that but there you go. |
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The Frank Chickens - Blue Canary - (my personal favourite) Live Barbican Weekender London 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jqxxSEy4_M |
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* sorry I misread the thread title.
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