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As Enrico Fermi said, "if the galaxy is teeming with life, where is everybody?"
Considering how old the universe is,its very strange why our neighbours never dropped in to say hello(well we have no proof of visitors).unless we are more advanced in life than all the rest.
of course there is one visitor that did arrive about 2000 years ago and said his father had made the universe.but we crucified him.
but he came to life again and went back to his home in a place called heaven.think he said he will come back to see us all some day.
of course there is one visitor that did arrive about 2000 years ago and said his father had made the universe.but we crucified him.
but he came to life again and went back to his home in a place called heaven.think he said he will come back to see us all some day.
"Stop messing about" as Kenneth Williams might have said.
If there are intelligent creatures out there we're more likely to be visited by robots than flesh and blood.
If there are intelligent creatures out there we're more likely to be visited by robots than flesh and blood.
who to say that maybe a few million years ago there was a generation on this earth of ours and they fecked everything up so badly that led us to believe that we are the only generation.
There's a session on 5Live between midnight and 1am where someone answers callers' questions about space etc.
He said that there are ancient cave paintings which depict a binary star system which is only visible with a telescope.
He said that there are ancient cave paintings which depict a binary star system which is only visible with a telescope.
That comment was made in answer to a question concerning whether there might have been an advanced civilisation on earth which was destroyed.
With all the billions of planets out there it seems unlikely only Earth is full of life & morons
Well - they've sent probes to mars and they have sent man to the moon.
Bacteria survives in extreme conditions.
If you look at surfaces of metals in an electron microscope. you see
it's teaming with bacteria.
So man has seeded all his instrumentation that he's sent up.
So YES there is life out there.
Bacteria survives in extreme conditions.
If you look at surfaces of metals in an electron microscope. you see
it's teaming with bacteria.
So man has seeded all his instrumentation that he's sent up.
So YES there is life out there.
make a bet with the bookie then take him to court as soon as the bet is placed.
get scientists to testify about bacterial contamination.
get scientists to testify about bacterial contamination.
Capt__F 16 Aug 16 23:50
wonder if there is a distant Muslim State ?
not distant enough!
wonder if there is a distant Muslim State ?
not distant enough!
although correct zorro , Bacteria becomes slightly irrelevant if we're talking about Intelligent Life Forms (ET's) in my opinion , which I believe exist , and do visit , even terra formed earth in our distant past
Consider this ..
If you were to go back & visit people from just 150 years ago would you really want to tell them about the Laptops , Smartphones & Wifi we use today, would you tell them how awesome Supercars are , the high speed rail , the fancy Washing machines & Dishwashers we use everyday ....
No
They'd get scared & think you were bloody Mad
Consider this ..
If you were to go back & visit people from just 150 years ago would you really want to tell them about the Laptops , Smartphones & Wifi we use today, would you tell them how awesome Supercars are , the high speed rail , the fancy Washing machines & Dishwashers we use everyday ....
No
They'd get scared & think you were bloody Mad
It wouldn`t have surprised H G Wells, or just about anyone else.
its science and science tells us that life is impossible everywhere.
its science and science tells us that life is impossible everywhere.
it can be wrong because life exists on earth. however it is impossible for life to exist on earth and just because it does does not mean that it is possible.
If these intelligent beings are millions of years advanced to us how would science even know what to look for to prove anything .. a few test tubes and a Bunsen burner just doesn't cut it any more !
and would they tell you if they found it existed ..
No so you just believe what you're told like a good little peoples
and would they tell you if they found it existed ..
No so you just believe what you're told like a good little peoples
There's supposed to be a good nightclub in Southend..
Given that earth in the universe is akin to a full stop in the Atlantic ocean I'd say it would be very probable for life elsewhere.
Loads and maybe double dunted with breasts both back and front.
the size of the universe is meaningless in relation to the question of the possibility of life.
I think you have to ask yourself why, on our planet which is so hospitable to life, has the its creation happened only once im three billion years?
look at it this way. we don`t know how life came to exist on earth. there is no mathmatical formula or scientific principle that explains it.
now lets say there was. only if in that formula there existed part of the equation that said the universe would have to be so many million light years across for there to be life.
only then would the size of the universe become relevent.
however as there is no formula it is meaningless to think that the size of the universe plays a part
now lets say there was. only if in that formula there existed part of the equation that said the universe would have to be so many million light years across for there to be life.
only then would the size of the universe become relevent.
however as there is no formula it is meaningless to think that the size of the universe plays a part
It plays a big part lfc.
Logical if you think it through.
The more you have the more chance of replication.
Logical if you think it through.
The more you have the more chance of replication.
Not new but still relevant for those interested:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-22/goldilocks-zones-habitable-zone-astrobiology-exoplanets/6907836
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2093865-is-nasa-doing-enough-to-look-for-alien-life/
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-22/goldilocks-zones-habitable-zone-astrobiology-exoplanets/6907836
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2093865-is-nasa-doing-enough-to-look-for-alien-life/
no, if we don`t know what created life then it does not mean anything to say that the larger space is the greater the chance of life. that`s illogical
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i_agree_with_nick 17 Aug 16 20:32 Joined: 21 May 10 | Topic/replies: 8,547 | Blogger: i_agree_with_nick's blog
I think you have to ask yourself why, on our planet which is so hospitable to life, has the its creation happened only once im three billion years?
There may have been false starts but as far as I know we don't have any evidence for other life systems. What is certain is that when life got a foothold it changed the environment of the primitive earth and eventually polluted the atmosphere and water with highly reactive oxygen.
i_agree_with_nick 17 Aug 16 20:32 Joined: 21 May 10 | Topic/replies: 8,547 | Blogger: i_agree_with_nick's blog
I think you have to ask yourself why, on our planet which is so hospitable to life, has the its creation happened only once im three billion years?
There may have been false starts but as far as I know we don't have any evidence for other life systems. What is certain is that when life got a foothold it changed the environment of the primitive earth and eventually polluted the atmosphere and water with highly reactive oxygen.
only when we have disproved the scientific fact that life is impossible on earth would it matter if there are more earths in the universe.
as according to science now life on earth is impossible then it is not relevent how many other earths there are
as according to science now life on earth is impossible then it is not relevent how many other earths there are
No disrespect meant lfc but that's a load of codswallop. 
i would say the very fact that something impossible has happened once...ie life on earth, makes it less likely that there is life elsewhere.
what are the odds of something impossible happening twice?
what are the odds of something impossible happening twice?
If it's already happened once then it could happen another million times ... Go Figure !
Very low probability and impossible are different things. In classical terms quantum tunnelling is impossible yet it happens. In quantum terms it has very low but not zero probability.
only if its possible moonbeam, but we know that life is not possible
By definition anything that has happened is not impossible.
foinavon there is no scientific or maths that says life is possible
everything that we know about the scientific and material world says that life is impossible.
there is no difference between ourselves and a chair or desk in science
there is no difference between ourselves and a chair or desk in science
Life exists so it's possible. Perhaps we haven't worked out fully how it happened yet but under certain conditions it was possible. Those conditions don't exist on earth today which makes the task difficult.
everything that we know about the scientific and material world says that life is impossible.
there is no difference between ourselves and a chair or desk in science
What does that tell you about The Scientific World .. you Plank!
there is no difference between ourselves and a chair or desk in science
What does that tell you about The Scientific World .. you Plank!
no DNA are merely atoms and molecules. we have not the first idea how this leads to life
Science teaches that we evolved through the Darwinian process of Evolution
Man is 98% identical to an Ape or Chimpanzee
But that 2% is HUGE & IMPOSSIBLE to change without serious DNA modification naturally over time .
Man is 98% identical to an Ape or Chimpanzee
But that 2% is HUGE & IMPOSSIBLE to change without serious DNA modification naturally over time .
"no DNA are merely atoms and molecules. we have not the first idea how this leads to life" is a different argument to "there is no difference between ourselves and a chair or desk in science". I'm going to keep an eye out for my desk having babies otherwise.
No Charlie, science says there is no difference on the molecular level between humans and a desk. And they don't understand the how the difference comes about. Also if it is a Woden desk at one time it would have been a living thing and produced baby trees.
I had a formica desk - did that come from a living organism
yes i think they grow them in the hills above Washington state.
maybe they are manufactured by bigfoot when hes not playing hide & seek
DNA, RNA and MFI – that’s how you self-assemble life. There are mutations occasionally - two desk tops instead of one but one of the drawers is missing.
Why should anything exist? Why should nothing exist? Why should infinity exist ? Why should there be 'why' ? ...etc ...etc...
well scientists believe that we are in a computer construct.
A digital creation? So life doesn't even exist here?
Just a machine 10001001 10001011 -
Jesus is either laughing or crying at all the bullsheet you
gringos are talking about.
Darwin is your Buddha and Theories are now solid things?
All of you have come up with 3 pages of theories that hold no water.
And instantly dismiss GOD as ridiculous, a thing for Children.
Like Santa or the Easter Bunny.
Jesus lived - a documented fact. In History.
Yet you dismiss him as a good teacher.
Dismiss his words and deeds.
The crowd are still shouting Barabbas.
A digital creation? So life doesn't even exist here?
Just a machine 10001001 10001011 -
Jesus is either laughing or crying at all the bullsheet you
gringos are talking about.
Darwin is your Buddha and Theories are now solid things?
All of you have come up with 3 pages of theories that hold no water.
And instantly dismiss GOD as ridiculous, a thing for Children.
Like Santa or the Easter Bunny.
Jesus lived - a documented fact. In History.
Yet you dismiss him as a good teacher.
Dismiss his words and deeds.
The crowd are still shouting Barabbas.
Former Canadian Minister of Defense realeases information that the USA is using Alien Technology.
Aliens are Real and Watching Us - Dr. Egar Mitchell...Astronaut
An Astronaut's UFO Experience - Gordon Cooper ...Astronaut
They've seen it.... smelt it....and got the phucking "T" shirt
The truth is out there ...
Aliens are Real and Watching Us - Dr. Egar Mitchell...Astronaut
An Astronaut's UFO Experience - Gordon Cooper ...Astronaut
They've seen it.... smelt it....and got the phucking "T" shirt
The truth is out there ...
My view on this is that I think that ifc1971's views are correct.
The way I see it is this - do you think mankind will EVER be able to create in the laboratory a living organism/cell from NON LIVING MATERIALS?
Because either life was created naturally all those billions of years ago, or someone/something planted the very first living cell in the first place and living organisms developed from that.
My view is that if we are able to make a living cell from purely non living materials in the laboratory, then the existence of a superior being has to be put into question. If we CAN'T, then you have to ask how on earth did the first ever living cell come into existence.
Looking at our surrounding planets/stars etc. We see not a single indication that there is anything out there except non living materials (rocks/gas/chemicals etc.).
We've been watching/listening now for a considerable number of years and there hasn't been a single piece of evidence to suggest that there is any life out there beyond our planet. If WE have a desire to communicate to others beyond our planet, then why wouldn't other human like life forms wish to do the same?
So, no, I really believe that we are unique certainly in our galaxy and possibly all other galaxies as well.
The way I see it is this - do you think mankind will EVER be able to create in the laboratory a living organism/cell from NON LIVING MATERIALS?
Because either life was created naturally all those billions of years ago, or someone/something planted the very first living cell in the first place and living organisms developed from that.
My view is that if we are able to make a living cell from purely non living materials in the laboratory, then the existence of a superior being has to be put into question. If we CAN'T, then you have to ask how on earth did the first ever living cell come into existence.
Looking at our surrounding planets/stars etc. We see not a single indication that there is anything out there except non living materials (rocks/gas/chemicals etc.).
We've been watching/listening now for a considerable number of years and there hasn't been a single piece of evidence to suggest that there is any life out there beyond our planet. If WE have a desire to communicate to others beyond our planet, then why wouldn't other human like life forms wish to do the same?
So, no, I really believe that we are unique certainly in our galaxy and possibly all other galaxies as well.
Good post from moke.
Obviously, it's a massive leap from chemistry to biology but it's but it's also a pretty big leap from single-celled organisms to more complex life.
Obviously, it's a massive leap from chemistry to biology but it's but it's also a pretty big leap from single-celled organisms to more complex life.
I_agree_with_nick
Yes, but that's why it's taken billions of years to develop from a single cell to where we are today. These things take time you know!
Yes, but that's why it's taken billions of years to develop from a single cell to where we are today. These things take time you know!
My understanding is that the development of single-celled organisms to the next stage, ie more complex, multi-celled life, is a bigger leap than the evolution that followed.
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