Are Team GB Going To Win A Medal In Sport That People Give A Sh!t About?

I was rubbishing trampolining until I saw the reaction of the young silver medalist for GB.
Every sport needs hours of dedication to be able to compete at this level.

BTW a gold medal to Crisp.

aka - No one is rubbishing certain sports.  All that is been highlighted is that certain minority sports only belong to the upper classes

I wasn't havin a go at your comments Kriskin, it was aimed at the OP.

Olympics should be binned. Amateur sport is a thing of the past. Billions spent in Rio where kids are raking rubbish tips for something to eat and sleeping in the sewers.

To the OP.....

Target all the noncompetitive events....

What the hell are "noncompetitive events"?

How about posting a list of what are competitive, and what are not!

It matters not what are the chosen sports, and how elitis you think they are.
Whether it's Table Tennis, Dressage, Fencing, Rowing, Cycling, Triple Jump, Squash or whatever else.
These competitors devote their lives to their chosen sport, to achieve excellence and should all be applauded.

Sounds to me like you have some enormous "chip on your shoulder", and resent every group who may be superior to you!

Yea... When Iceland were dumping us out of the Euros I'm sure everyone was saying :- ''OK...but we'll kick their arises at canoeing''

Great Britain can well do without working class losers with chips on their shoulder. By the way op perhaps you could post a list of posh and non posh names.

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Aug 13, 2016 -- 3:39PM, Just Checking wrote:


Some pathetic class warriors with chips on their shoulder here. No doubt total failures in life.Probably support Corbyn...


I don't think I was a failure in life.  Played professional football in Scotland & England until 25 (Just under 10 yrs ago).  Plenty on here know who I'm am. Got an injury and went on to get a Honours degree and Masters in Computing.  Currently run my own business.

Ur MISSING the point about elitist sports like Rowing

What you want,a medal?

Equestrian is an Elite sport IMO ... How Much are are riding Lessons  never Mind the gear ?

As for having access to a horse or Pony and a Field ,Its not happening for the Masses IMO .

I do know a couple of lads Local have a Couple of Horses and a Trap  Their main competions

Take place on Local Roads or at the Appleby Fair

only the most beautiful and civilised of countries can be good at everything, and look at the sports Britain is good at, everything and anything.
it is nice to see the equestrian and rowing events etc and anything middle or upper class is something any country should be thankful to see.

if the `working classes` do not have the opportunity to take part in certain sports is it really such a deprivation?
if they have the talent and dedication and love of sport there are hundreds to choose from.
the question might be where are they in the blue riband 1500m, or any track and field event, or football for that matter, how are we doing in that? perhaps the poster who says he was a professional footballer in Scotland and England for 10 years could explain that.

Elitism is an issue with rowing in this country, but the reason it's non-competitive is that there aren't many regattas in the Congo etc. You're competing against a tiny minority of nations and the chances of 'medalling' are massive compared to athletics.

Personally, I've got an issue with BBCs presentation - the whole thing is a Team GB benefit - they'll tell you about some british athlete who won a bronze in a minority event, interview her, and her family, but neglect to tell you who actually won - they've gone way too far with the British angle, as if there would be no reason to watch without GB success. Some of the foreign athletes, also have back-stories which may be interesting (admittedly none as interesting as 'well, fist I got tens of thousands in lottery funding...')

In other words:

It's not fair I sit on my fat arsenal all day and other people are winning gold medals and I'm not.....its because they are rich and have access to elite equipment like a pair of running shoes.....life is just not fair

Britain was winning olympic medals long before the lottery ever existed.
the list of great British sportspeople is longer and richer than perhaps any other nation.

lets look at this in a slightly different way. wht has England been so successful in so many different sports, in comparison with lets say Ireland for example.
England does not have any god given right to be good at any sport, but look at its history, its pretty good no one can deny that

now you can compare England with any other nation, thats ok if you wish.

FM has called it correctly.The BBC presentation is vomit inducing.Way over the top when a "Brit" gets the sniff of a medal yet totally ignores the other competitors who finish in front of our gallant lavishly funded Etonian.A tad more general balance to the games would be much appreciated but as we are talking the "BBC" here fat chance.

^ must never have watched the coverage of the olympics in any other country

now if someone from Russia, or America or China or France or Germany or Kenya or Iran or Argentina want to let its viewers know the `back story`
of some of the British athletes who win medals at the olympic games...well that would be lovely

The point was that we aren't being told who won certain events - they fill the coverage with nonsense and have no faith in the product they've paid millions to broadcast

some of them train xmas day like millions and millions of others who go to work xmas day.and women who,ve had kids and returned to work must be fuming about the coverage hills getting just for competing as a mum

Too much magazine coverage, repeated as well by the BBC. Serving the casual armchair viewer. That said the facility to watch some sports on their own is a must for me and the Beeb have been doing that more and more.

Got to be careful you miss something else going on at the same time though with the Olympics!!!

Ifc1971 is right though. Go and watch this in the States. You'd not hear much about the cycling there.

On another thread here I said in a post Brexit world the country needs to punch above it's weight. The Olympics is a world stage. I don't think people appreciate the benefits to any society sport and to an extent the arts, actually bring to the table.

TTT

Another gold in the Pummel Horse Now 2nd in the table, astonishingly.

This targeting of the non events has really worked.

Not pleasing the chit chatters though.

A medal is a medal as far as I'm concerned. I don't mind where they come from.

Given BBC's hatred of all things UKIP/Brexit I find it quite bizarre to hear this OTT Team GB propaganda.

I love my country, voted Brexit and am a proud (little?)Englander but the coverage is nauseous. In 2012 I found it embarrassing and this seems even worse.

Same as in the US. Apparently it's Women who love it the type who aren't really into Sport but would cheer us winning gold in a dump curling competition.

The olympics are a political tool used by governments to portray themselves as "Superpowers". It also helps governments/hosts can rinse the tax payer to fund the circus. I wonder if a proper audit of all public spending on rio by all countries was done, how much money would have "disappeared".

If you asked any average Joe in Britain to name a quarter of their medalists from 4 years ago without looking at wikipedia, they'd fail.

I don't follow most of these sports but it's compelling viewing when Team GB are going for a medal.
Wouldn't normally watch rowing but screaming at the tv when the UK involved.

''They'' Like to brainwash us into thinking sport is important.... Yes, even football.

Sport is an irrelevance.... But it does take the peoples attention away from the things going on in the world that are important...

Having said that... Come on Murray!!!

But it does take the peoples attention away from the things going on in the world that are important...

Nowt wrong with anything that takes yer mind off problems etc for a short time. Tis what keeps loads of peep sane.

Mecca

Any Brits in the 100m final?

When did ENGLAND ever win a fecking Olympic medal?

Agree re BBC coverage. I'd prefer they went back to reporting rather than cheerleading.

Not sure about "non-events", eg gymnastics which in some countries is considered a prime event, including Russia, China and even in America. Look at cycling where traditionally no-one in Britain gave a damn till we started winning medals and the Tour de France.

I'm not sure it needs to be about class. The truth is that we have poured oodles of lottery money into Rowing and in particular Track cycling and it dwarfs the investment from a lot of other countries who are competing against in the Olympics. Indeed it led Arnaud Tournant to say :“Great Britain is probably the only professional track team. The rest are amateur.”

Now this doesn't diminish the achievement of winning a medal in any sport: you can only beat the opponents put in front of you. But it does lead to the rather valid question: are some olympic events more competitive than others and you'd be hard pushed to convince me that there is no disparity.

Tournant is spot on. its buying medals. professionals like Wiggins, Cavendish etc.... have no place in the olympics

Tournant is spot on. its buying medals. professionals like Wiggins, Cavendish etc.... have no place in the olympics

Agreed, and the same is true of golf and tennis. At least the football is under-21.

But then you remember that athletics is a professional sport too, with Usain making millions in appearance fees, prize money and sponsorship. The amateur ship has sailed.

Metinks the 'trials' should be tuffer. Make em work to make the squad, this isn't Nauru, so you never know they might improve if they thought they weren't going. Most of em are just not good enough. The girl who just qualified in the 200 then had to do a seasons best to get mullered.

Odd, isn't it. About 20 years ago, we were cr@p at the Olympics, winning virtually nothing. If we had a plucky Brit in the gymnastics, they would be so awful they would get stuck on the pommel or fall off the beam. People moaned like crazy as it was embarrassing. I assume Hamsterdam was happy then.
Something was done and we are now winning medals. So we must complain again!
I agree, some sports probably don't deserve a place in the Olympics, possibly rugby 7s but I wouldn't fancy telling the winners!
As for professionalism, don't tell me the USSR and East German athletes weren't effectively state funded professionals.

Hamsterdam


Tw@t

about 4 million per medal for the posh boys sports day,its all rather cute they even still invite their mams and dads along to watch and cheer

Try saying that to Jade Jones but I'd recommend you protect your b0ll0cks if you do.

I say, we're having a jolly good Olympics old chaps and chapesses, a spiffing medal count. Those ghastly riff raff posters who knock our team. That is most unsporting.

more than a grain of truth in a lot of the posts
but at the end of the day
can't be denied
there is definitely a feelgood factor
when team GB is doing so well
and with the continued diversity around and still coming in
we might in the future even be having it off
in some of the real events

A lot of Olympic sports are for posh people with cut-glass British accents ( even Chris Hoy has a posh voice ). Many winners went to fee-paying schools.
And the people paying for this, and paying voluntarily are lottery players who are about as different from the sort of people they are funding as possible. Only in Great Britain could this happen, imv.

I hope all the medallists go round to a random newsagent in Stoke or Manchester and bow down in thanks to the regular punters.

They best hold onto their medal when they do.

and everything else

£250m is the figure I've heard used for our Olympians.

It's not surprising that money = success/medals. Not sure if that's wrong, just the way of the world.

Germany seems pretty good at posh sports, particularly equestrian. I wonder if the average German hates success in these sports as much as we seem to.

There does seem to be a lot of people with a chip on the shoulder on this thread. There are people from every background in the GB team. There is very little in the Olympics that you require a privileged background to be involved in. Undoubtedly funding helps us in one or two of the sports. There is no doubt our cyclists for example have an edge in some ways over those from other countries. It doesn't change the fact that these people have dedicated themselves to becoming the best in the country to get in the GB team and then to becoming the best in the world. If you don't want to cheer them on that's up to you, but to try and turn it into a some sort of class issue is a bit pathetic.
As cantthinkofaclevername suggests it's unlikely the Germans have the same issues with success that some people on here seem to have.

People seem to be missing the OPs original point.

Personally... I would swap all the cycling medals for 1 Linford Christie, Sally Gunnell, Kelly Holmes, etc moment.

Even a Tessa or Fatima would do

That's because the original point was complete nonsense.
We have won gold medals in all sorts of sports. Athletics, swimming, gymnastics, cycling, rowing, tennis, diving, canoeing, golf, equestrian. Perhaps the Op can explain the sports we have left to others? Our medallists are from a massive range of backgrounds. The whole thing is insulting to these people who dedicate their lives towards being the best.

Cycling is more akin to F1 than individual ability.

Whichever country has the best technology wins.

You take the 100m for example.

I can safely say that nobody can beat Bolt over 100m.

Could anyone say the same for Kenny & Trott if everyone had access to the same bike and clothing?

could you beat them then?

Most do Wesdaq. Trott is where she is because of her dedication to her sport.

I envy the dedication of every person competing at the Olympics.
Most up with the birds and training 7 days a week with very few days off.

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Missing a few things off that iceberg

Looks alot like Lance Armstrongs Iceberg

I'm not knocking their dedication because that's not what I'm talking about.

What I'm saying is cycling is not a level playing in the same way that F1 isn't.

That's not to say that, for example, Lewis Hamilton isn't talented & dedicated but it would be foolish to say that having the best car doesn't play a massive part.

http://cyclingtips.com/2016/04/hidden-motors-van-den-dreissche-banned-for-six-years-stripped-of-european-and-belgian-under-23-titles/

Ingenius cheating around every corner. Imagine taking up cycling and being so desperate to win you put a motor in your peddle bike absolutely pathetic

But in cycling all the top nations have access to the best of equipment.

some proper "woe is me" types on here,still if it makes them feel a bit better about their own unfulfilling existence to slate people who are achieving something in their chosen field its lottery money well spent imo.

Yes.. I can imagine tens of millions of schoolchildren all over Africa and Asia rushing home from school to watch that bull sh1t race that Mark Cavendish was in last night.

mecca, some on here just can't seem to get the fact that the application of money & technology makes the playing field a bit less level.

Mecca
Instead of whinging about the sports you dont think should be in the games please tell us of which sports you approve.

Not saying that the sports shouldn't be in Olympics.... Just agreeing with the OP.

Is team GB gonna win a gold in any blue ribbon events?

I bet people around the world looking at the medal table wondering where GB got all these medals from, coz they haven't watched any of them

And by blue ribbon events you mean??

Mostly track & field

you do realise the olympics is about other sports as well as track and field?

mecca
Yes.. I can imagine tens of millions of schoolchildren all over Africa and Asia rushing home from school to watch that bull sh1t race that Mark Cavendish was in last night.

Meaningless analogy mecca. All Olympic events are watched by millions throughout the world.

It's blue riband,not ribbon.

All that fkin lottery money spent on this sihte. I could have spent it  more wisely, and ethically. I agree with the OP.

I bet yer glued to the screen when the girl gymnasts are on Kenny.

Nah, lol. I'm out getting some real action.

your "out getting some action" and posting on the betfair forum?

Kenny Mann spot on.  The olympics are a political tool used to portray countries as powers. Comically corrupt and riddled with drugs. The fact they named the Olympic Stadium after Joao Havelange (Blatters Mentor who co-incidently died today) sums up the circus for what it is. Winning or even just taking part usually consists of buying off judges and/or pumping yourself up with chemical garbage.

Havalange didn't die today

yes,that 16 year old gymnast probably used all her pocket money buying mars bars for the judges...genius

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37097423

he did.

did he overdose on mars bars supplied by 16 year old gymnasts?

yes,that 16 year old gymnast probably used all her pocket money buying mars bars for the judges...genius

A couple of hours ago on mediamass it said he wasn't and the rumours were a hoax but now they have changed their headline to say it has been confirmed - he had a good innings anyway

RQ' it's cost about £250,000,000 to buy those medals. Disgraceful.

he had a good innings anyway

thats one way of putting it

I don't understand why people see the need to decry the likes of the Olympics.
Compelling viewing especially when watching British competitors.
I've read a few pieces on various athletes and their training regimes are frightening.
Not just what they themselves put into the sport but the help they get from family members as well.

There was a programme on about Erraid Davies the Paralympic swimmer from the Shetlands.
Up at 4 with her Mum who drove her to a pool for 3 hours training before school. Dedication that should be applauded.

Kenny if yer no barred away and get yerself a pint in Tommy's pub and chill out.

RQ' it's cost about £250,000,000 to buy those medals. Disgraceful.

Just think what money could have been spent on Kenny. Better public services.....alas no, it goes on non entities who in 4 weeks time the majority of the country wont be able to name. 90%+ of the country would struggle to name 20 individual British medalists from London 2012 without looking at wiki

did he overdose on mars bars supplied by 16 year old gymnasts?

Keep an open mind. Autopsy not been done yet. Let the facts come out

Not compelling viewing for me, aka, although I do watch bits. Not saying the athletes haven't trained hard, but they would still be there competing (not as well) without the funding. It will all be forgotten soon, whereas we could do a lot of long lasting good with the money wasted (imo) on them. Doesn't seem to be anyone in Tonny's pub these dats aka.

We could also make animals (including factory farmed ones) lives a lot more pleasant RQ.

Cheer up lads, if only you'd stuck in at the runnin instead of the booze and the cigs you might have been able to compete for a medal

Money well spent imho. Dedication acknowledged.

Hamsterdam "cheer us winning gold in a dump curling competition"

I envy the dedication of every person competing at the Olympics.
Most up with the birds and training 7 days a week with very few days off.

bit like Leopard on here

WTF is the ATHLETICS

Kudos to Asher-Smith making the 200m final