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7 years
cost £12 mill
2 million words long
will take 8 years to read it
cost £12 mill
2 million words long
will take 8 years to read it
bliars high profile of late suggests he is in clear
will we get an inquest into chilcot ?
will we get an inquest into chilcot ?
we've already had establishment enquiries on this and they were whitewashes, lets not set our sights too high . i hope i'm wrong as i feel blair deserves to be at the hague.
just googled it and the indie says £767 for a physical copy 
. maybe on the www for free?
families of dead soldiers will be given a summary for free.
. maybe on the www for free?families of dead soldiers will be given a summary for free.
Waited 7 years for it, and now with all this Brexit fallout it will probably put the Iraq inquiry in the shade. I hope it doesn't and Blair & co should face the full consequences of their actions. Warning - Whitewash Ahead!
Always going to be a whitewash, shame as Blair needs to end up in prison.
The 12-volume report is 2.6m words: as long as a dozen doorstop history books.
-The complete report will cost £767.
-So far, Chilcot has cost £10m – for a war that cost Britain at least £10bn.
- At least 100,000 Iraqi civilians were killed during the period Chilcot covers. Let’s hope the report finds room in its 2.6m words to emphasise that.
- 179 British military personnel killed in the Iraq war
“In some ways the report has gone stale,” says Menzies Campbell, the former Lib Dem leader and a longstanding critic of Chilcot’s slowness. “The duration of Chilcot has diminished it. On the one hand, Blair has already got a defence out. On the other, there’s almost nothing Chilcot can say about him that will damage his reputation any further.”
The inquiry is essential … Its scope is unprecedented … It will have access to all government papers, and the ability to call any witnesses.” Gordon Brown concluded: “I am advised that it will take a year.”
-The complete report will cost £767.
-So far, Chilcot has cost £10m – for a war that cost Britain at least £10bn.
- At least 100,000 Iraqi civilians were killed during the period Chilcot covers. Let’s hope the report finds room in its 2.6m words to emphasise that.
- 179 British military personnel killed in the Iraq war
“In some ways the report has gone stale,” says Menzies Campbell, the former Lib Dem leader and a longstanding critic of Chilcot’s slowness. “The duration of Chilcot has diminished it. On the one hand, Blair has already got a defence out. On the other, there’s almost nothing Chilcot can say about him that will damage his reputation any further.”
The inquiry is essential … Its scope is unprecedented … It will have access to all government papers, and the ability to call any witnesses.” Gordon Brown concluded: “I am advised that it will take a year.”
only need sell 13k copies and its break even
roll up roll up ...
roll up roll up ...
People in high places make mistakes.
Look at Cameron, didn't he want to take us into Syria and had plenty of supporters for that idea, despite knowing what happened in Iraq?
Blair didn't know what a balls up invading Iraq would turn out to be. The same goes for Bush they both got it wrong.
They worked on the information they had at the time.
That doesn't make them war criminals.
Look at Cameron, didn't he want to take us into Syria and had plenty of supporters for that idea, despite knowing what happened in Iraq?
Blair didn't know what a balls up invading Iraq would turn out to be. The same goes for Bush they both got it wrong.
They worked on the information they had at the time.
That doesn't make them war criminals.
imo you inadvertently say the right thing crippen, They worked on the information they had at the time.
for they did work on the information and then re-work it several times until it fitted their preconceived ideas.
you are, of course, entitled to a different opinion.
for they did work on the information and then re-work it several times until it fitted their preconceived ideas.
you are, of course, entitled to a different opinion.
Bush an Blair are good men with honorable intentions. They were naive and didn`t know just how barbaric and irrational some countries are.
Blair won another election two years after we'd gone into Iraq.
So whatever Blair did wrong, it took it's time to become apparent to everybody.
So whatever Blair did wrong, it took it's time to become apparent to everybody.
how many tens of thousands Iraqis have been murdered in the past by Iraqis..not just in the past few years but down the centuries. Well it may be millions, i am sure i read it somewhere.
now Britain and America defeated Germany and Japan and deposed military dictators in these countries with far greater devastation.
And both Germany and Japan went on to bulid beautiful and free democratic countries.
And both Germany and Japan went on to bulid beautiful and free democratic countries.
Just suppose that after the invasion, a new administration had been put in place and succeeded in governing?
The bloodbath would not have happened, and no one would pointing fingers now.
So it wasn't a case for going to war for the wrong reasons until it all went wrong.
It was only then that they got stuck into Blair as a possible war criminal.
The bloodbath would not have happened, and no one would pointing fingers now.
So it wasn't a case for going to war for the wrong reasons until it all went wrong.
It was only then that they got stuck into Blair as a possible war criminal.
and why has it not succeeded, well i am sorry but that responsibility goes to the people of Iraq, and not just the politicians but the thousands of fanatics from every section of that society...therein lies the blame so i suggest we stop the bullsh1te about blaming Blair and Bush
I agree with lfc1971.
We just didn't realise what these people are like before we invaded.
We don't even know now, otherwise we wouldn't be so keen to let so many of them come to this country.
We just didn't realise what these people are like before we invaded.
We don't even know now, otherwise we wouldn't be so keen to let so many of them come to this country.
plenty of people did realise though, one or two million marched in the streets of london. i dont recall any march in support of the war in these numbers.
plenty of middle east experts told them that they were playing with fire and said you must have a post war plan. the likes of rumsfeld and cheney more or less thought such a thing unnecessary. the decisions to kick out all baath party members and to put young, poltical cronies into important jobs rather than those with experience in reconstruction were major faults.
plenty of middle east experts told them that they were playing with fire and said you must have a post war plan. the likes of rumsfeld and cheney more or less thought such a thing unnecessary. the decisions to kick out all baath party members and to put young, poltical cronies into important jobs rather than those with experience in reconstruction were major faults.
huge rally Glasgow
I was there
blair needed to be escorted out by helicopter for his safety
I was there
blair needed to be escorted out by helicopter for his safety
to think the awful fecker is now worth over £100 million yet we pay for his protection for life
people like to march against war, it makes them feel like they are good people.
it was America and Britain, they were determined to protest against anything Bush would do.
look the problem can be seen as political, or religious, or any number of things.
Have you heard of ant Iraqi who questions the religious and tribal nature of their society, anyone who even thinks that way is in danger of losing his life.
And do they ask what is wrong if our religious differences lead to this..or do they inform and persecute thir own people.
until they are honest enough to address these things nothing can change
it was America and Britain, they were determined to protest against anything Bush would do.
look the problem can be seen as political, or religious, or any number of things.
Have you heard of ant Iraqi who questions the religious and tribal nature of their society, anyone who even thinks that way is in danger of losing his life.
And do they ask what is wrong if our religious differences lead to this..or do they inform and persecute thir own people.
until they are honest enough to address these things nothing can change
If ever there was a politician who was damaged goods it's Blair, but he's still hungry for publicity.
One thing is for sure, given how vocal he's been lately, he's not exactly worried about whatever's in the Chilcot report after 7 years, been well informed he can sleep easy no doubt.
One thing is for sure, given how vocal he's been lately, he's not exactly worried about whatever's in the Chilcot report after 7 years, been well informed he can sleep easy no doubt.
Blair has cynically tried to get 15 million leave campaigners on his side since the Brexit vote, his type will do anything to win favour. As posted earlier he probably knows what is being published and feels exonerated to poke his big nose into events once more.
blair read it weeks back, the fact he shows his face tells me hes somehow in the clear,
but of course the real world knows the sort he is
but of course the real world knows the sort he is
This excellent article by Jeremy Bowen sums it up. Who needs Chilcot when you get this from the horse's mouth?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36706265
I asked Kadhim what he would do if he could meet Tony Blair.
"I would say to him you are a criminal, and I'd spit in his face."
Iraqis have often made matters worse for themselves, but it was mistakes by the US and Britain that pushed Iraq down the road to catastrophe.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36706265
I asked Kadhim what he would do if he could meet Tony Blair.
"I would say to him you are a criminal, and I'd spit in his face."
Iraqis have often made matters worse for themselves, but it was mistakes by the US and Britain that pushed Iraq down the road to catastrophe.
blair read it weeks back
Isn't the delay in publishing, due to those mentioned in the report being able to challenge the findings before they were released?
If so then Blair must have read it years ago.
Isn't the delay in publishing, due to those mentioned in the report being able to challenge the findings before they were released?
If so then Blair must have read it years ago.
That's a good piece Injera.I've been to pre war Syria in 2008.That time it was totally safe and life went on relatively normally.I bet most Syrians would give anything to go back to that.Likewise Libya.
From that BBC piece "Jihadists were not in Iraq before the invasion. Shia and Sunni Muslims, whose sectarian civil war started during the occupation, could co-exist."
It was similar in Syria.I visited a beautiful Christian chruch in Aleppo.I wonder what has become of those people now?.The invasion of Iraq eventually destablised Syria too.Blair has blood on his hands.
It was similar in Syria.I visited a beautiful Christian chruch in Aleppo.I wonder what has become of those people now?.The invasion of Iraq eventually destablised Syria too.Blair has blood on his hands.
A leading international lawyer has ruled out the prospect of Tony Blair going before the international criminal court after the long-awaited Chilcot report into the Iraq war is published.
Geoffrey Robertson, QC, a former United Nations appeal judge and author of Crimes Against Humanity, said the prosecution of the former prime minister as a war criminal was “a legal impossibility”
Geoffrey Robertson, QC, a former United Nations appeal judge and author of Crimes Against Humanity, said the prosecution of the former prime minister as a war criminal was “a legal impossibility”
The 2.6m-word report was delivered to the prime minister at 11am on Tuesday. No one else has received a report, but Downing Street may have sent copies to other senior ministers.
Corbyn will not receive a copy until 8am on Wednesday, the same time as the families of some of the 179 British soldiers who died in Iraq.
Chilcot is scheduled to make a statement at 11am, lasting 15-20 minutes, and the report will go online as soon as he finishes.
Corbyn will not receive a copy until 8am on Wednesday, the same time as the families of some of the 179 British soldiers who died in Iraq.
Chilcot is scheduled to make a statement at 11am, lasting 15-20 minutes, and the report will go online as soon as he finishes.
MI6 receives the 45-minute intelligence report - Lord Butler says it came "third hand" through a main well-established source
14 July 2004
Lord Butler's inquiry concludes that the 45 minute claim should not have been included in the dossier without explanations of what it referred to.
The report also reveals MI6 now says the intelligence report on the claim "has come into question", with doubts cast about one of the links in the reporting chain.
12 October 2004
UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw tells the House of Commons that the head of MI6 has withdrawn the claim.
14 July 2004
Lord Butler's inquiry concludes that the 45 minute claim should not have been included in the dossier without explanations of what it referred to.
The report also reveals MI6 now says the intelligence report on the claim "has come into question", with doubts cast about one of the links in the reporting chain.
12 October 2004
UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw tells the House of Commons that the head of MI6 has withdrawn the claim.
Chronicles of War, allegories and parables, Man's inhumanity to Man, the rise and fall of Empires. The Chilcot Report could be the new Bible.
at a guess, Dominic Cummings' screeds on education and paliamentary reform probably contain better recommendations and diagnoses of the problems than Chilcot's epic.
1. Governments' default mode of operation is a state of blind panic with hastily constructed reactive responses designed to placate the commentariat. Goals are often poorly defined, and strategy even less so. Focus is poor.
2. Our elected leaders and ministers are not educated appropriately to lead or make complex decisions.
3. Politics attracts and rewards the wrong sort of people, particularly narcissists, and leaders are rarely elected on their ability to make good decisions or manage complex projects. It actively discourages the right sort of people from participating.
Blair is a gigantic narcissist with poor judgement and mentally unequipped with the necessary education to provide good solutions to complicated problems. He has been trained to talk well, but not to think well.
That's it. Now where's my money.
1. Governments' default mode of operation is a state of blind panic with hastily constructed reactive responses designed to placate the commentariat. Goals are often poorly defined, and strategy even less so. Focus is poor.
2. Our elected leaders and ministers are not educated appropriately to lead or make complex decisions.
3. Politics attracts and rewards the wrong sort of people, particularly narcissists, and leaders are rarely elected on their ability to make good decisions or manage complex projects. It actively discourages the right sort of people from participating.
Blair is a gigantic narcissist with poor judgement and mentally unequipped with the necessary education to provide good solutions to complicated problems. He has been trained to talk well, but not to think well.
That's it. Now where's my money.
Hopefully will get to see what conversations went on between bush & blair a year before the war, anything else will be a whitewash.
No doubt some high up army personnel will tkae the brunt.
No doubt some high up army personnel will tkae the brunt.
I've already got the "don't rush into anything" and "perhaps people might change their mind when their realise some of the arguments/evidence were made up".
I'm looking for quotes from Blair criticising the leave campaigners for not having a proper plan so we break new barriers in hypocrisy.
I'm looking for quotes from Blair criticising the leave campaigners for not having a proper plan so we break new barriers in hypocrisy.
are they going to mention that 'god' told tony to he had to do it ?
that's the nutshell. they weren't challenged. the right thing to do was to set up groups directly tasked with challenging the "evidence" rather than getting into a great big groupthink wankfest.
it's a product of human behaviour, love to know what chilcot recommends.
it's a product of human behaviour, love to know what chilcot recommends.
I'm guessing he was made a sir for services to waffling
Was hardly a whitewash. In fact, it seems as damming as a government inquiry could be.
We now have the bizarre situation where the current government, who were in opposition at the time, will be defending the Iraq war and the actions of the then government, and the current opposition, who were the instigators of the war, attacking the actions of their then government.
We now have the bizarre situation where the current government, who were in opposition at the time, will be defending the Iraq war and the actions of the then government, and the current opposition, who were the instigators of the war, attacking the actions of their then government.
it seems its not a whitewash but it probably changes nothing.
If you got a few years. - here's chilcot report
http://www.iraqinquiry.org.uk/the-report/
http://www.iraqinquiry.org.uk/the-report/
From the news so far, this does not sound like a whitewash.... But weapons inspector who "killed himself" David Kelly, the release of all medical records, including the results of the post mortem, and other unpublished evidence will be kept secret for 70 years. We should know the true circumstances of Dr Kelly's death now. Why do we have to wait 70 years to tell us that he committed suicide ?!
In 70 years time they will probably be saying that all the documents have been accidentally shredded.
In 70 years time they will probably be saying that all the documents have been accidentally shredded.
LOL at Cameron defending New Labour 
Libya baby, Libya.
Libya baby, Libya.
"I'll be with you whatever" said Blair to Bush
reminds me of this
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABhZQ_VRbsQ
reminds me of this
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABhZQ_VRbsQ
Camaroooon in PMQs said we need to learn the lessons doooh!!!!
Lot's of stuff not released - papers kept hidden by US etc etc yawn!!!!
Lot's of stuff not released - papers kept hidden by US etc etc yawn!!!!
Yes, we needed to learn the lessons before we went on to invade Afghanistan.
40s
Kevin Maguire @Kevin_Maguire
Blair's love letters to Bush, expressing undying devotion, are extraordinary. The relationship was that of poodle & master
Kevin Maguire @Kevin_Maguire
Blair's love letters to Bush, expressing undying devotion, are extraordinary. The relationship was that of poodle & master
another one swept under the carpet.
ironic that the media now covering this are the same ones that were pumping out 'Saddam had weapons of mass destruction' 24/7 on the lead-up to the invasion.
look at blairs & Bush's wealth before & after the invasion to tell you everything you need to know.
I hope the families that have lost loved ones get together and sue the arses of the pair of warmongering murdering b4stards.
ironic that the media now covering this are the same ones that were pumping out 'Saddam had weapons of mass destruction' 24/7 on the lead-up to the invasion.
look at blairs & Bush's wealth before & after the invasion to tell you everything you need to know.
I hope the families that have lost loved ones get together and sue the arses of the pair of warmongering murdering b4stards.
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