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Looks like a 10yr old kid has painted half the stuff ive seen.....the emperors new clothes syndrome imo.

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By:
Roger The Butler
When: 28 Jun 16 22:39
Just watched it on the news. Looked like a load of old b0llocks to me, but then a lot of art is.
By:
Velasquez
When: 28 Jun 16 22:44
Well he ain't in his prime any more, is he?

The stuff he did in the late 60s and early 70s is very good, when he painted large figurative paintings with the new acrylic paints. But apart from those, he is over-rated.
By:
kenny mann
When: 28 Jun 16 22:50
I've still got that photo of him Vel. Remember that discussion, maybe a year ago?
By:
blackbarn
When: 28 Jun 16 22:50
"Art History for Dummies" is a really good book for those starting out on the appreciation of Art.  Re Hockney, he's been going six decades so emperor's OLD clothes might be more appropriate.
By:
Velasquez
When: 28 Jun 16 22:52
Have to say - with all this contemporary art, it's not about the art or artist at all - it's all about who is selling and buying it...that's the "secret" about modern art...it's about hype, crazes and fashions. The art itself is just another currency.
By:
Velasquez
When: 28 Jun 16 22:55
Yes, Kenny - I remember - I think if you contacted him - say you wrote a hand written letter - he might send a hand written letter back...write care of the art gallery he is showing at.
By:
blackbarn
When: 28 Jun 16 22:58
Velasquez - haven't we been here before?  Don't you like the late landscapes? I liked, but wasn't blown away by the 2012 exhibition, but the public certainly voted with their feet, here and across Europe.

Off to the Saatchi tomorrow to see Exhibitionism (The Stones) and hope to immerse myself (not literally) in Richard Wilson's 20-50 oil if it is still there.
By:
kenny mann
When: 28 Jun 16 23:00
I'll put it on my to do list. I did actually phone his mum, Laura, when my aunt died,as they were good friends,  but she had moved from Scarborough I think it was.His dad went tyo the same grammar school in Bradford as my sister.
By:
Velasquez
When: 28 Jun 16 23:02
It's okay, he keeps going, doesn't he? I think the public like a bit of colour. I saw that oil thing years ago, at the old Saatchi gallery...strong smell.
By:
kenny mann
When: 28 Jun 16 23:03
Or should I say procrastinaton list.
By:
Velasquez
When: 28 Jun 16 23:04
Kenny - ffs - you need to write to the guy - I'd bet he'd write back just because of the nostalgia factor.
By:
Velasquez
When: 28 Jun 16 23:06
Mr.D. Hokerley Mischief

c/o
Pace Gallery
537 West 24th Street
New York
By:
kenny mann
When: 28 Jun 16 23:06
ok I will, thanks. He's probably got the same photo though.I'm sure his mum would have got a copy.
By:
wit-ham
When: 28 Jun 16 23:08
10 quid is about it for me for a bit of brushwork
By:
kenny mann
When: 28 Jun 16 23:08
Mr.D. Hokerley?
By:
blackbarn
When: 28 Jun 16 23:11
Velasquez.      I thinks its better than "keeping going" but each to his own.

Re the oil, I seem to remember reading ha he saved about £25k by using used oil instead of fresh. Still bloody amazing though.
http://www.saatchigallery.com/current/richard_wilson_20_50.htm
By:
Velasquez
When: 28 Jun 16 23:12
Scan and print a COPY of the photo...or even get a photocopy made...I don't think you guys realize just how artists like Hockney love looking at photos and the like. Most of his art is photo-based one way or another. Just be dead polite and explain your own history with the photo.

Hand written reply would be - ding ding - 3 lemons ExcitedExcitedExcited
By:
Velasquez
When: 28 Jun 16 23:16
Kenny - NO! NOT Mr. D. Hokerley!! Crazy
By:
Velasquez
When: 28 Jun 16 23:21
Just thinking here...you could buy Ye Olde Basildon Bond paper, and use Quink ink with a NIB pen...

BTW - Don't all you Muhammad Ali fans realize that, if you wrote to or phoned Ali, he would generally reply if he was able?
By:
jed.davison
When: 28 Jun 16 23:21
Well he ain't in his prime any more, is he?

The stuff he did in the late 60s and early 70s is very good, when he painted large figurative paintings with the new acrylic paints. But apart from those, he is over-rated.


Spot-on. The great Brian Sewell (PBUH) was a big fan of his earlier work.
By:
Velasquez
When: 28 Jun 16 23:24
Me too...he was very clever, the way he used acrylic paint. He put a lot of thought and effort into those paintings.
By:
blackbarn
When: 28 Jun 16 23:38
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_and_Mrs_Clark_and_Percy#/media/File:Hockney.clark-percy.jpg

I liked everything about this picture except the name of the cat, so we changed it to the name of their other cat, or some such words
By:
kenny mann
When: 28 Jun 16 23:39
ok, I'll put it the top of my list. Vel. Cheers.
By:
kenny mann
When: 28 Jun 16 23:42
What a lovely white cat. I hope they put sunscreen behind the ears on it in summer.
By:
Velasquez
When: 28 Jun 16 23:42
Piero della Francesca isn't mentioned in that article, but I reckon he was a big influence, rather than Jan Van Eyck.

The figures are stiff and formal, like Piero.
By:
blackbarn
When: 28 Jun 16 23:54
Velasquez - absolutely agree (new to me, re this pictureCool), and I have always thought that the light was very reminiscent of Gainsborough's famous Mr and Mrs Andrews.
By:
Velasquez
When: 28 Jun 16 23:56
Yes! That's a great call, Blackbarn. There are strong colours there, too.
By:
Velasquez
When: 28 Jun 16 23:58
There's a film from the 60s showing Hockney - he used photos and a projector to do that painting.
By:
bodil
When: 28 Jun 16 23:58
Yeah, a child's idea of PdF.  I don't care for much of his recent stuff - if given a portrait or one of his rural Yorkshire scenes you might put it up in a guest bedroom.  But some of his Californian output caught the interaction of sun, sky, concrete and water like few others - those shades of blue and yellow, and everything arid and sun-baked.  Couldn't paint a splash for toffee though.

Modern art, eh? I've never got over Tracey Emin being appointed Professor of Drawing at the Royal Academy.  I mean, it's the kind of thing I would have done when out of my mind on British sherry (hurrah!) and wanting to destroy civilization.
By:
Velasquez
When: 29 Jun 16 00:01
I agree that the splashes aren't very splash-like, but I think he was having a joke there, with the idea of spending weeks painting an event that happens in a fraction of a second.
By:
Velasquez
When: 29 Jun 16 00:02
Or, as art critics would say, he was being "witty"...Plain
By:
tictacman1
When: 29 Jun 16 00:05
One of the most popular and influential British artists of the 20th century returns to Tate Britain for his most comprehensive exhibition yet

This exhibition gathers together an extensive selection of David Hockney’s most famous works celebrating his achievements in painting, drawing, print, photography and video across six decades.

As he approaches his 80th birthday, Hockney continues to change his style and ways of working, embracing new technologies as he goes. From his portraits and images of Los Angeles swimming pools, through to his drawings and photography, Yorkshire landscapes and most recent paintings – some of which have never be seen before in public  –  this exhibition shows how the roots of each new direction lay in the work that came before. A once-in-a-lifetime chance to see these unforgettable works together.


VENUE

Tate Britain
Millbank
London
SW1P 4RG
Plan your visit

DATES

9 February – 29 May 2017
By:
blackbarn
When: 29 Jun 16 00:10
Others will do a better job on the "splash" than me, but I may come back.

Re Emin's drawings, well here goes, (wait for the flak), I'd venture that some are a match for Schiele and he's regarded by nearly everyone as a genius.
By:
bodil
When: 29 Jun 16 00:13
Or, as this critic would say, he couldn't paint a splash for toffee.  We would have swooned over a splash by PdF.

Wow, just thought of a topic for an art PhD - Splashes in Early Renaissance Art  Should concentrate on baptisms, flagellations and beheadings - plenty of acreage there.
By:
Velasquez
When: 29 Jun 16 00:15
I just think she is fookin' rubbish...90% of the posters on here could do better than her if they wielded a pencil for one year.
By:
bodil
When: 29 Jun 16 00:16
Schiele was a genius (and far more erotic) - Emin can't draw for toffee. 

That's (at least) the third toffee from me tonight.  And I hate the stuff.  What's going on?
By:
Velasquez
When: 29 Jun 16 00:19
btw...in art school, they do exercises like BLIND DRAWING where you don't look at the paper you're drawing on.
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Jun 16 00:26
to be a great artist you have to be different, or you have to be part of a group that has discovered something different.
The last british artist to do this was L.S Lowry
By:
Velasquez
When: 29 Jun 16 00:30
I think the best actual drawer - or draughtsman - of the 20th century was probably the comic book artist Jack Kirby...he was a one-off, with immense natural talent...mind you, he couldn't paint for...toffee.
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