i found both sides equally dismal in this so called debate. the debacle on the thames with two rich men each telling us they knew what was best for us the low point of the whole show. i nearly didnt vote at all because of this but in the end couldnt let osborne's threat go unpunished in my small way.
the osborne threat.i found both sides equally dismal in this so called debate. the debacle on the thames with two rich men each telling us they knew what was best for us the low point of the whole show. i nearly didnt vote at all because of this but
I got the impression that Cameron had actually convinced himself that he believed what he was saying. Osborne knew he was lying and was positively revelling in it.
Osborne.I got the impression that Cameron had actually convinced himself that he believed what he was saying. Osborne knew he was lying and was positively revelling in it.
i should add that when the intellectual heavyweight d beckham said we should vote remain i did think i must have missed something so considered changing my mind
i should add that when the intellectual heavyweight d beckham said we should vote remain i did think i must have missed something so considered changing my mind
Surely the remain camp had a campaign manager.. Geldof and Izzard should have been been incarcerated until it was all over. They may have lost it with those two clowns.
Surely the remain camp had a campaign manager..Geldof and Izzard should have been been incarcerated until it was all over.They may have lost it with those two clowns.
If campaigns meant anything we'd have voted to remain. The remain side held and implemented all the tools needed to mislead us and still they failed.
I think politicians make too much of their campaign efforts, and too little of the public's ability to see through them.
If campaigns meant anything we'd have voted to remain.The remain side held and implemented all the tools needed to mislead us and still they failed.I think politicians make too much of their campaign efforts, and too little of the public's ability to
I've been a committed leave voter since a referendum was first muted but if someone, anyone, had given reasonable and believable reasons why we should remain, I would have been willing to reconsider. All we've been given by politicians, media folk and celebs is scare story after scare story and accusations of racism and bigotry, not one positive outlook.
I don't buy The Mirror or The Sun but yesterday's front covers summed up the last 6 months perfectly. One had a bright sunny new dawn and the other had a bottomless black hole to signify possible the future facing us from today.
My name is Dan, I voted Leave and I'm a racist. Apparently.
I've been a committed leave voter since a referendum was first muted but if someone, anyone, had given reasonable and believable reasons why we should remain, I would have been willing to reconsider. All we've been given by politicians, media folk an
Many good reasons above. Remain were a shocking bunch. Never mind the lies and threats from Cambourne, they had so many t*ss*rs Alistair Campbell, Salmond, the Green woman. The last two weeks, and especially the Cox exploitation thing, were disgusting. Their debating style was shouty and rude, playing the man not the ball. Even that thing where they waited to the last day to try and smear Leave because one of their donators had apparently been signed up to the BNP by her husband a decade ago, that's gutter politics. I'm so glad they lost.
Many good reasons above. Remain were a shocking bunch. Never mind the lies and threats from Cambourne, they had so many t*ss*rs Alistair Campbell, Salmond, the Green woman.The last two weeks, and especially the Cox exploitation thing, were disgusting
Surprised to see no votes for Obama telling the world Britain would be at the back of the queue for a trade deal.
Didn't need much incentive to vote 'Leave'. Surprised to see no votes for Obama telling the world Britain would be at the back of the queue for a trade deal.
Dont think either side covered themselves in glory but the constant scaremongering from Remain was painfull. The threats to the pensioners really made me mad although id been pretty much a Leave vote from the off.
Dont think either side covered themselves in glory but the constant scaremongering from Remain was painfull. The threats to the pensioners really made me mad although id been pretty much a Leave vote from the off.
The list of celebrity luvvies who are outraged by this is bizarre and very pleasing.Lineker, Corden, Richard Bacon, JK Rowling, Cumberbatch...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3657754/Britons-chippy-ungrateful-Eastern-European-immigrants-econom
I was always going to vote leave because i hate Cameron with a passion.The fact he is a coward and refused to debate with Farage in a head to head only hardened my resolve.
I was always going to vote leave because i hate Cameron with a passion.The fact he is a coward and refused to debate with Farage in a head to head only hardened my resolve.
The Lisbon treaty signed in december 2007 when Blair/Brown deceived us by saying we couldnt have a vote about even more political integration. Maastricht sowed the seeds for me as I was a strong supporter until then when I began to mistrust the EU.
The Lisbon treaty signed in december 2007 when Blair/Brown deceived us by saying we couldnt have a vote about even more political integration. Maastricht sowed the seeds for me as I was a strong supporter until then when I began to mistrust the EU.
Most of these are terrible reasons. I'm not saying Out was wrong (because I don't know), but surely the idea was to vote for the option which best benefitted Britain.
Most of these are terrible reasons. I'm not saying Out was wrong (because I don't know), but surely the idea was to vote for the option which best benefitted Britain.
I was a leave voter for 51 weeks of the last year but the literature I received from the leave side meant I could not vote for them because the leaflets I read were not only weak of any argument but smacked of scaremongering and were based on what I believe were untruths. I watched the tv debates during the last week and felt the same. I heard one of the senior leave mps who has been a euro sceptic all his political life say today he would have accepted defeat gracefully if they lost by a single vote and the question about the eu would be forever ended in his mind. But only yesterday the leave side were making excuses for what at that time looked likely to be defeat when they claimed mi5 were acting in the background and would not allow a leave win to happen. Stories of taking their own pens to vote were the last straw for me.
I was a leave voter for 51 weeks of the last year but the literature I received from the leave side meant I could not vote for them because the leaflets I read were not only weak of any argument but smacked of scaremongering and were based on what I
Surely democracy is a laudable matter for any country Patra, throughout history its denial has usually produced pain and trouble for all.It is only when you don't have it that it is valued,we would have been crazy to throw it away and we nearly did.
Surely democracy is a laudable matter for any country Patra, throughout history its denial has usually produced pain and trouble for all.It is only when you don't have it that it is valued,we would have been crazy to throw it away and we nearly did.
Eddie Izzard ( a person I normally like ) was a vote loser for the stay side when he appeared on question time. I thought he had a nightmare appearance. His lips were moving but he had the argument of a 5 years old.
Eddie Izzard ( a person I normally like ) was a vote loser for the stay side when he appeared on question time. I thought he had a nightmare appearance. His lips were moving but he had the argument of a 5 years old.
Th main thing that swung it for was the stomach churning bias of the TV companies who ran a campaign clearly aimed at influencing voter opinion for Remain whilst trying to appear to be neutral. Their negative reactions and coverage of the result today shows how heavily biased they were.
Th main thing that swung it for was the stomach churning bias of the TV companies who ran a campaign clearly aimed at influencing voter opinion for Remain whilst trying to appear to be neutral. Their negative reactions and coverage of the result toda
K Sera have to agree. The way the faces of the BBC journalists changed last night for example from happy to sad as results came in, it was so obvious what they thought.
K Sera have to agree. The way the faces of the BBC journalists changed last night for example from happy to sad as results came in, it was so obvious what they thought.
Cameron's M&S cardigan. The exploitation of two , seemingly unwilling, children of African descent. The intervention of Brendan Cox. The threats made to the British by a yank who looks like Alfred E Neuman.
But I did not need any persuading.
Cameron's M&S cardigan.The exploitation of two , seemingly unwilling, children of African descent.The intervention of Brendan Cox.The threats made to the British by a yank who looks like Alfred E Neuman.But I did not need any persuading.
never once thought that extra levels of bureaucracy as a good thing. never wavered. Even if they showed Boris running naked through the streets. I'm pretty sure there were a few murderers in the ranks that liberated Europe from the Nazis. A just cause isn't always a bloodless victory.
never once thought that extra levels of bureaucracy as a good thing. never wavered. Even if they showed Boris running naked through the streets. I'm pretty sure there were a few murderers in the ranks that liberated Europe from the Nazis. A just caus
The lies by Cameron & Osbourne. The Osbourne statement that he would put up taxes to balance the books the day after brexit when he hasnt been balancing the books since he started his job.
& obama helped with his lies too.
The lies by Cameron & Osbourne. The Osbourne statement that he would put up taxes to balance the books the day after brexit when he hasnt been balancing the books since he started his job.& obama helped with his lies too.
The Boaty McBoatface incident where free thinking and democracy was dashed by the establishment.
I reckon it was the same for many people with the referendum - and consequently the future of Europe and possibly the world has been affected by 'Boaty'.
The Boaty McBoatface incident where free thinking and democracy was dashed by the establishment.I reckon it was the same for many people with the referendum - and consequently the future of Europe and possibly the world has been affected by 'Boaty'.