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31 May 16 15:48
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On its last full day of trading, the Ladbrokes betting shop in Morden, south-west London, stayed open until 10 at night. It was Friday 24 May 2013, the beginning of one of those spring-summer weekends for which the schedules of global sport combine to throw up a glut of events that can be gambled on. A European football final, a super-middleweight title fight, a Grand Prix, high-season horse races, a golf tournament. The manager of the Morden Ladbrokes, a 55-year-old Londoner named Andrew Iacovou, sat behind his shop’s counter with a computer, a scroll printer, a coin tray and, beside his knees, a safe – waiting to take bets.......

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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/may/31/big-gamble-dangerous-british-betting-shops

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By:
zorrostrikes
When: 31 May 16 16:02
No money in the safe -

My dad won £600 on a treble once in WHILLS and the woman in the bookies had to empty the puggies to pay him out. All in coins. Desperate stuff.
By:
bigmo
When: 31 May 16 16:40
That was a pretty long read and disgusted reading a lot of it.
By:
casemoney
When: 31 May 16 19:04
Used to use the Shop in Morden ,was a very quite shop Sad
By:
Des Pond
When: 31 May 16 19:26
A very good article. Well done to the author for producing a thorough, well written piece about an issue that many people don't know or care about.
By:
casemoney
When: 31 May 16 19:28
Unbelievable ,Shop staff little more than security Guards,  I managed for Lads years back all I can say is thank foook I got out of the game Sad
By:
kenny mann
When: 31 May 16 19:42
Funnily enough a friend e.mailed that today to me.Brilliant piece.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 31 May 16 20:15
more chance of a bus crashing through the window imo  Wink
By:
ThommosBucket
When: 31 May 16 20:16
Excellent article - actually made me quite angry reading it.

Would love to see the Area Managers / HO "executives" single man a city centre shop until 10pm.

Disgraceful - and sadly governments from both parties have done nothing to stop it.

Used a shop in Sheffield for a number of years and there was a lovely girl who managed it - she was scared to death of locking up at night and that wasn't in a rough area.

Not to worry though, if she hasn't moved her mouse for 45 minutes we can send the ambulance to collect her body...
By:
betting_masta
When: 31 May 16 20:26
I am amazed anybody still bets in a shop. 20 years from now there will be 0 high street bookmakers
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 31 May 16 21:22
How else can you access their odds if they've restricted or closed your account?

Really good article with plenty of facts and statistics and a proper feel for the business. And possibly the first such article to avoid being sniffy or downright condemnatory of gambling.

Looking forward to a follow-up in the Racing Post.Plain
By:
blackestnight
When: 31 May 16 21:34
Excellent and highly truthful article. Nothing will change though.
By:
hitman76
When: 31 May 16 21:51
Rancid places.
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 31 May 16 22:45
A very thorough and  well researched piece by Tom Lamont. Hopefully there will be attention drawn to it within the industry.
By:
Capt__F
When: 31 May 16 23:10
God save the indies
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 31 May 16 23:14
A very accurate and long written article.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 31 May 16 23:26
You end single manning with legislation.  There are far too many betting shops that lie virtually empty as things stand, because the single manning makes it economic.  Better to be made redundant in shop closures than to work in such horrible conditions.  Close half the shops and the business can easily be switched to another shop with 2 staff, plus you'll save on all the other overheads.

Head Office in each firm knows it's wrong.  To be fair to Billies they were last to implement it, and they are being forced into it by their rivals. But they could've made a stand and pressed for legislation.
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zorrostrikes
When: 31 May 16 23:35
Remember bookies when they took a percentage of your winnings. 15 percent? 10 percent? hard to remember with my old brain.
Only open now because of the gaming machines. Fifty percent of their money. Old guys make up the rest. Guys who drink guiness and whiskey and smoke woodbines(they get them from a russian dealer).

Two machines per bookie - times -  thirty shops in the high street?
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 31 May 16 23:37
they wouldn't have it in France. They'd be blockading the entrances to Rayners Lane tube, chaining theirselves to the FOBTS in Folkestone and shouting vive la double employes de magasin to anyone that would listen.
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Capt__F
When: 31 May 16 23:40
tax was at 10% duty on turnnover 4.5% ?
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 01 Jun 16 10:00
It was Cyril Stein, of all people, who maintained that if a shop couldn't run profitably with dual staffing then it shouldn't be open. That's Cyril Stein, the founder of modern Ladbrokes and a man whose name was synonymous with the hard-nosed cost-cutting.
By:
DStyle
When: 01 Jun 16 12:33
a horrific read.

understaffed empty shells housing FOBTs.

the simple question is whether any of the board members would feel comfortable with their teenage or early twenty something daughter manning a shop in an urban centre during a weekday evening for three months.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 01 Jun 16 13:04
A simple question with a simple answer
By:
bongo
When: 01 Jun 16 21:44
You could argue the other way from Clydebank, and end single manning by repealing legislation.
There's plenty of high streets with 3 shops 100 yards apart each with 1 person in them, usually good distances from other busy night-time places like pubs. They are all offering identical products - if there is a difference, I haven't noticed one, apart from how many pages of the Racing Post are missing.
If economies of scale and more liberal planning were possible then this wouldn't happen.
By:
bongo
When: 01 Jun 16 21:47
Although the murder took place first thing in the morning.
By:
brassneck
When: 01 Jun 16 22:07
the government of the day should open a chain of betting shops all over the country and use the states money to stand all bets.
if statistics are correct everyone(98%)will lose in the long run and the government will create thousands of jobs and have loads to spend on essential services.now before you tell me I have a loose bolt in my brain and they should not promote gambling remember it was the government that ran lotto,s for years to build hospitals so its a good way to raise taxes.Grin
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Capt__F
When: 01 Jun 16 22:16
moneytree wd break the country
By:
winningthought
When: 22 Jul 16 18:48
ttt I suppose. I remember the days when an afternoon in the Bookies was a social affair with some camaraderie and banter Sad

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/22/betting-shops-serious-crime-robbery-metropolitan-police-flying-squad
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