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tenpins
29 May 16 20:02
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It's all a bit TFI fridayish isn't it?
Only two minutes in to be fair Happy
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Report scandanavian_haven May 29, 2016 8:06 PM BST
Anything with Chris Evans in it is bound to be overblown cack.....IMO.
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK May 29, 2016 8:19 PM BST
It's un replaceable gig !
Will watch give it a chance
Report Fangsy May 29, 2016 8:22 PM BST
Not sure how clever it was to show several cars parked illegally on a motorway hard shoulder!  Evans needs to calm down a lot to make this work; like Le Blanc so far.
Report clarkson May 29, 2016 8:29 PM BST
Gave up after 5 minutes, watching Mr Holmes instead.
Report Ibrahima Sonko May 29, 2016 8:33 PM BST
Its better than i thought it would be.
Report the.mad.dog.man May 29, 2016 8:45 PM BST
its is rubbish
Report Facts May 29, 2016 8:46 PM BST
In a word

Dire
Report Injera May 29, 2016 8:49 PM BST
I gave it 10 mins and turned off.

Didn't realise they would try to imitate Clarkson et al. Thought they would put a completely different slant on it.
Report Facts May 29, 2016 8:55 PM BST
They have - and its puerile shlt
Report scandanavian_haven May 29, 2016 8:57 PM BST
Chris Evans had his day in the 90's, I think they should of had someone younger present the show.
Report Make my hay May 29, 2016 9:00 PM BST
I don't like it, maybe young children will.
Report tenpins May 29, 2016 9:03 PM BST
LeBlanc is a better presenter than I expected.
Extra Gear wtf Cry
Report Ovalman. May 29, 2016 9:15 PM BST
Like Chit Chat new forum, give it time.

Maybe in 5 years.
Report onlooker May 29, 2016 10:18 PM BST
Top Gear had become too silly before the bust-up.

That latest episode about converting Estate Cars to ambulances - driving them around an army training camp town, with dummies (as patients) being flung out of the back, by manic driving - was like a poor attempt at a Monty Python sketch - and just as infantile.

Evans and Le Blanc will never be able to imitate Clarkson, Hammond and May - especially the self-deprivation element of the last two.

Clarkson, Hammond and May could have made a half-hour programme about jam making appear funny - and perhaps they 'got out' at the right time, as Top Gear had become less and less about the car/motoring element - and often denigrated to simply slap-stick.

It was, and had been for years, just a comedy show for Clarksons ego.

But, they were quite good at comedy - apart from the previously referred to recent farces.

If Evans and Co attempt to replicate that - then they can only fail - because they will always be judged against the UNachievable.
Report Facts May 29, 2016 10:50 PM BST
^ agreed.
Report Zazu May 29, 2016 10:53 PM BST
dreadful first episode fast forwarded through most of it


Only bit that was decent was Le Blanc in the nomad


As others have said, I cant believe theyve just tried to replicate the old show
Report polo minx May 29, 2016 11:25 PM BST
This was rubbish. Bring back Jeremy and his team. Thank you for the entertainment, Guys! X
Report Makybe_Diva May 30, 2016 8:48 AM BST
"That latest episode about converting Estate Cars to ambulances - driving them around an army training camp town, with dummies (as patients) being flung out of the back, by manic driving - was like a poor attempt at a Monty Python sketch - and just as infantile."

That was one of the funniest things I've ever seen Laugh
Report screaming from beneaththewaves May 30, 2016 9:19 AM BST
I think they should of had someone younger present the show.

Evans and Le Blanc will never be able to imitate Clarkson, Hammond and May - especially the self-deprivation element of the last two.

Top Gear had become less and less about the car/motoring element - and often denigrated to simply slap-stick.

More laughs on this thread than Evans has managed in a whole career.
Report ZenMaster May 30, 2016 10:56 AM BST
Guy Martin has shown real passion for is TV exploits, you can't fake passion.
Unfortunately for the BBC he opted out, mainly because he didn't want to be THAT famous.
Good on him, but that real passion is hard to fake, and that's the problem, Evans is a fake.
Report Aunty Post May 30, 2016 11:09 AM BST
I just stumbled upon it without knowing it was on.

Never liked Chris Evans, though he's better on radio where you can't see the egotistical ugly ****!

They may as well have had realistic Clarkson & Hammond masks on, and when they got to the bit "some say he drove himself home from hospital, when he was born" bit, it was all too much for me!

I thought Le Blanc was a bit "awkward" but maybe he will settle into it given time!

Have to wonder what his pay deal is, considering the cast of "Friends" were reported of getting $1,000,000 per episode!
Report Hound-Dog-2 May 30, 2016 11:09 AM BST
Chris Evans was the wrong choice for this show (although I also thought he was the wrong choice to replace Wogan on Radio 2 Breakfast, but he is very good on that breakfast programme). However, totally wrong for TG, agree with first comment, it's a bit like TFI Friday/Top Gear, reckon Evans is going to be a massive flop here. Matt Le Blanc was excellent. Surprised at all the fuss on social media, but seems the fans were unimpressed with Evans to say the least !! Angry
Report Degs May 30, 2016 11:27 AM BST
I think Evans said on the radio that they would have already filmed the studio section of the second show before the first one went out, so wouldn't be able to make significant changes. I guess you might see changes on the third show, although they film that on Thursday.

Be interesting to see what he says about it tomorrow on the radio
Report Ramruma May 30, 2016 11:31 AM BST
The problem with Evans and (the surprisingly good) LeBlanc is that their personalities do not match their assigned roles.

Evans has replaced Clarkson as the main presenter but personality-wise, Evans is Hammond; LeBlanc is Clarkson. Evans has manic enthusiasm and a high-pitched voice; LeBlanc has a deeper voice and sardonic humour.

Which by a process of elimination means Sabine is James May. Hmm.

There is no reason Top Gear can't work with the new team but they need to make it their own, not an homage to the last lot. Evans is a better interviewer than Clarkson, and at least as good a presenter but he is different.

Beyond that, the Reliants to Blackpool challenge looked too contrived: what was the point? LeBlanc in the Aerial was great, and the Viper too -- but the comedy challenges at the end of all the pieces felt tacked on and fell flat imo.

Top Gear Extra -- Rory was trying too hard and I'm not sharing the love for Chris Harris, but perhaps there was a touch of first day nerves and things will improve as both get more on-screen experience. What was noteworthy is that the news segment of old Top Gear had been moved to Extra.
Report Ramruma May 30, 2016 11:38 AM BST
@Aunty Post -- Have to wonder what his [LeBlanc's] pay deal is, considering the cast of "Friends" were reported of getting $1,000,000 per episode!

This is one reason for opposition to the government's plan to make the BBC reveal stars' salaries. It's not that the BBC overpays them -- just the opposite. The BBC gets away with underpaying stars because of the kudos of being on the BBC. The danger is that big Hollywood stars will have to say "no" if making this public undermines their American earning power.
Report Hound-Dog-2 May 30, 2016 12:04 PM BST
After the exit of Clarkson, May & Hammmond, I think a different approach with the presenters might have worked, and also make it less blokey. Reckon Suzi Perry and Matt LeBlanc would have made a good pair to overhaul hosting the show, LeBlanc was a lot better than I expected last night. To be fair didn't think the new show was that bad, it wasn't brilliant, and the main problem was Chris Evans and he got an absolute pasting on social media after the show last night.
Report Room 0182 May 30, 2016 12:36 PM BST
What BBC execs / Guardian readers / Clarkson haters can't acknowledge is that is was the blokeyness that made it successful (and funny) - whether ripping into each other or making jokes about Indians or whatever.

Take that away and you're left with what we got last night - rather bland, flat but perfectly acceptable telly.
Report sixtwosix May 30, 2016 1:01 PM BST
It may well be that whichever presenters they picked it would not have been as good , this certainly wasn't.

The chemistry was missing and their decision to remove the school boy humour was delivered .......and hence it was flat , dull and boring.
We watched a couple of old episodes afterwards and were laughing our heads off , I for one did not chuckle once in the new show.

It may be slick and professional ,not dissimilar to the terrestrial horse racing coverage , that too lacks characters nowadays.

The trip to Blackpool was dullsville , the Top Gun bit was worse ,listening to how a very rich man has a key to a very exclusive new car was nauseating and the two main presenters have a lot of work to do on their double act.
Report acey deucy May 30, 2016 1:22 PM BST
I love Evans...I think it will be big hit.
Report Tex AxiLe May 30, 2016 1:40 PM BST
Thought it was poor, put it on series link so will give it another go next week.

Is it wrong to fancy Sabine?
Report scandanavian_haven May 30, 2016 1:42 PM BST
bit sad screamingfrombeneaththewaves that for no apparent reason, first thing in the morning you're reduced to scratching around my posts looking for and drawing attention to typos and then making out it's hilariousCrazy have a day off (is that better?)


I like Le Blanc and would even say he's saving the show which probably should have been retired when Clarkson left.
Report Aunty Post May 30, 2016 2:26 PM BST
I think Evans is like the proverbial Marmite.

James my son, and my grandson, were on "The One Show" and James said he was cool, and a good guy.

Lucas was only four, but was taking it all in his stride when he was in the taxi with Evans, and the girl was pulling it with her hair.
Report bigH May 30, 2016 6:56 PM BST
Cars??

Yawn
Report treetop May 30, 2016 7:03 PM BST
Sanitised by the BBC management,removing the blokeyness will see it have a slow death and be cut when their pride has been satisfied.
Report Des Pond May 30, 2016 7:19 PM BST
Gave up on watching that fatuous, self-indulgent gravy train years ago. Would rather watch a repeat of "wheeler dealers", tbh
Report screaming from beneaththewaves May 31, 2016 8:45 AM BST
I don't see any typos there at all, scandinavian_haven, just malapropisms. Standard comedy device. Arthur Daley's whole character was built on them, and the world was his lobster.

I mean, I don't recall the old Top Gear presenters depriving themselves of much, which is why they got into so much trouble. They did deprecate themselves a lot though.

Not exactly hilarious, I agree. But then, I was comparing it to Chris Evans.
Report scandanavian_haven May 31, 2016 10:13 AM BST
God that was worth reading. You must feel better.
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! May 31, 2016 1:12 PM BST
Was like a tribute act to the real thing.
They had the chance to make so ethi g new.
You can just see the directors holding up cards that say be like clarkson.

And to have to see that egg frying dildo showing us his new car keys was the tipping point for me.
Report Facts May 31, 2016 2:26 PM BST
Yep, fatuous  bilge. Full of cringeworthy embarrassment. Evans's high pitched excitable shouting, is particularly annoying.
Report Ramruma May 31, 2016 2:29 PM BST
And to have to see that egg frying dildo showing us his new car keys was the tipping point for me.

That was odd. Ramsay and his new Ferrari key which was greeted by tumbleweed.

But then you remember that Chris Evans collects Ferraris and co-owns a dealership.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/gallery/top-gear-presenter-chris-evanss-car-collection-in-pictures/

So it could have been an interesting item but instead of being himself (ie a complete petrolhead) Evans was stuck imitating Jeremy Clarkson.
Report Facts May 31, 2016 2:52 PM BST
But he was himself ( I.e a complete tw@t)
Report Zazu June 11, 2016 2:48 PM BST
Episode 2 was fantastic
Report Just Checking June 11, 2016 3:02 PM BST
I caught a bit of it last sunday, I'm not a fan but was ok. Not any worse than the origianal series, and without that tw*t clarkson in it.
Report Zazu June 11, 2016 5:53 PM BST
I dont like Evans reviewing cars but the Africa section was more than on par with old Top Gear
Report GoOnThen June 11, 2016 7:01 PM BST
I have to agree with Zazu. Episode 2 was a cracking watch. Maybe it's a grower rather than a show'er!
Report Zazu June 13, 2016 5:04 AM BST
Episode 3 brilliant. Its better than old Top Gear
Report Facts June 13, 2016 9:39 AM BST
Yeh right
Report Ramruma June 13, 2016 2:36 PM BST
Missed it yesterday so this is "in running" from iplayer.

It suffers from the same problem as Fifth Gear -- too many presenters. We had Chris Evans driving the Audi, then Sabine driving the Audi, then the Stig driving the Audi.

Over to Chris Harris in a Ferrari. He's got a good following but I was unimpressed. He's not got a good voice and it is too close to the pitch of the engine to be clearly audible, though maybe this can be tweaked in production. His "xxx-y" neologisms such as explody seemed childish.

The star in the reasonably-priced car involved more blatant plugs including film extracts. It also went on forever.

Rory in the Focus, Honda Civic and Merc A45.

Matt and Ken powerslide round the sights. Carporn meets Londonporn.

In conclusion, this was more Fifth Gear than Top Gear: one for the petrolheads rather than "cocking about with cars".
Report Zazu June 13, 2016 4:30 PM BST
They raced new Audi R8 round laguna seca. One lap with audis latest driving aids turned on, one with no aids and just a professional racers skill

RS section was excellent and I hope the black presenter who did that is featured more heavily as he was brilliant

I normally fast forward through stars in cars but Anthony joshua and Kevin Hart were very entertaining

Ken block did us hoolican stuff round London.

Agree the Ferrari section presenter wasn't great

It was nothing like fifth gear and if you if you dont enjoy episodes 2 and 3 than I'm not sure why you'd watch top gear as it's clearly not a show for you
Report Ramruma June 13, 2016 7:29 PM BST
The items were good. Better in some cases than some of the nonsense the old team filmed.

But it was less than the sum of its parts. There was nothing holding it together. It was like watching half a dozen youtube car videos in a more-or-less random order. It is lazy to blame lack of chemistry between Evans and MLB, but the sheer number of presenters does not help.
Report cooperman June 14, 2016 2:08 PM BST
Excellent chance to change a tired and formulaic show.................... wasted.Sad
Report Facts June 14, 2016 10:06 PM BST
Yep
Report Zazu June 20, 2016 5:23 AM BST
The train vs car section this week was cringeworthy Cry
Report cooperman June 20, 2016 7:53 AM BST
Get rid of three old guys and a show past it's sell by date and replace with ?????????????????????????

More old guys, an old German woman and a show trying to replicate what wasn't working.
Report Ramruma June 20, 2016 9:24 AM BST
More old guys, an old German woman and a show trying to replicate what wasn't working.

Top Gear was working -- at least in the sense it was the BBC's most profitable show from foreign sales.
Report Ramruma June 20, 2016 9:39 AM BST
Again, the individual items were good, but disconnected from each other. It was like watching a Top Gear tribute band.

And what was the point of the chefs in the Venice race? Cooking on hot engines is a thing, so it could have been an interesting component of the race, but having a Michelin-starred chef spatchcocking chickens in the back of a Jag wasn't that interesting.

The Aston Martin footage from Dubai had a CGI feel, almost as if it were a video game. Probably there is a good technical explanation for that, but I found it a bit disconcerting.

The Stig seems redundant, since now he is just a racing driver doing timed laps in cars we have just seen in timed laps driven by the racing driver Chris Harris or the racing driver Sabine Schmitz.
Report TheBetterBettor June 20, 2016 9:50 AM BST
Clarkson is a Bremainer ffs.

The whole credibility of the show has gone out of the window.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! June 26, 2016 2:54 PM BST
Seems Matt le blance may leave the show

Hates Evans tantrums

Laugh
Report GoBallistic June 26, 2016 3:06 PM BST
Every feature seems to be a vehicle (geddit?) to shoehorn as many celebs into the show as they can. Big fat who cares
Report tenpins June 26, 2016 4:49 PM BST
Matt le Blanc is better that I expected.
Evans is worse though, he gets too excited over the simplest thing.
I'll continue to watch it.
Tonight has a feature on the Jaguar F type SVR which could be decent.
Report Zazu March 27, 2017 7:59 AM BST
This seasons Top Gear has been brilliant and far superior to Amazons offerings imo

I think Chris Harris and Matt Le Blanc are superb and even I liked the studio bit with Tinie Tempah this week
Report Callisto-moon March 27, 2017 9:10 AM BST
These three are starting to settle into the roles now.
The last series they tried to be the same as the old top gear copying the personalities and presenting style.
This time they are letting them be themselves.
Report Makybe_Diva March 27, 2017 11:31 AM BST
I only watch because Mr Makybe has it on but I'm really enjoying this series Happy

Much better without Chris Evans.
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