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twizzle22
23 May 16 15:14
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1...Austria have elected a "far right" PM

2...Mystery of doomed Egyptair flight

3..Man utd have a new footy manager


I'm betting 1/7 its 3..god help us allCry
Pause Switch to Standard View BBC headline news tonight..guess
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Report Burton-Brewers May 23, 2016 3:23 PM BST
and what about (this is not a joke either) leaving the EU could jeopardise the search for a cure for cancer
Report twizzle22 May 23, 2016 3:29 PM BST
Its becoming more and more ridiculous on each passing day
Report rogerthebutler May 23, 2016 3:45 PM BST
Burton-Brewers
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    23 May 16 15:23 
and what about (this is not a joke either) leaving the EU could jeopardise the search for a cure for cancer


They don't need to be that obvious - it's far more insidious.

Just allow the 'Pro-Remain' camp to set the agenda and paint the 'Brexiteers' as always being on the back foot, 'having to respond' to the latest swivel-eyed nonsense Cameron et al comes out with.

Top article on BBC News website today?

'EU Exit Threatens 820,000 jobs' and a very pro-remain analysis by Kamahl Ahmed on the latest economics forecast should we leave.

No headline re Turkey's projected membership of the EEC, majored on by the Pro-Exit camp today of course - and when you do click through various pages to get to it, the first two lines are the 'Pro-Remain reaction to this, viz:

'David Cameron has said claims the UK would not be able to block Turkey joining the EU are "very misleading", insisting the UK retains a veto'

Goebels knew that subtle drip-drip agenda setting propaganda was far more effective than anything 'in your face' and the BBC have learnt the lesson well.
Report treetop May 23, 2016 3:58 PM BST
We had all this media rubbish fed to us about the north est assembly based in Newcastle and the pundits couldn't understand how the combined might of the government machine,a strong Labour heartland and the Newcastle based media failed to win an elctorate that was highly sceptical about the concept outside the Newcastle media centre.Even I wassurrisedat the 73-27% vote against it !Surprise,surprise, we are getting it anyway via the backdoor of devolution and mayoral bribes from Osborne doing the EU bidding anyway (dressed up as a tory policy this time when they opposed it last time).
Report Burton-Brewers May 23, 2016 3:58 PM BST
I have consistently said Turkey will be a member before 2020 but it has been ridiculed by the Remain faction. Boris's dad was on Radio 4 last night, he is a former MEP with Turkish ancestors and supports staying in the EU. The subject got around to Turkish accession to the EU, and he stated that as things currently stand there are 12 obstacles to Turkey ever being allowed to join. He then said that currently Turkey has Merkel and the EU by the gonads so do not be surprised to see these obstacles "conveniently" get sorted rapidly.
Report rob_dylan May 23, 2016 4:23 PM BST
I thought the far right Austrian candidate lost though.  Maybe they should lead with "Austria haven't elected a "far right" PM".
Report Rockinron May 23, 2016 9:55 PM BST
*Breast feeding in Costa Coffee*..or other Earth shatteing topics !
Report mobo May 23, 2016 9:58 PM BST
they havent started yet
you are about to be swamped by remain propaganda
brexit doesnt have a chance

and it is going to create a very serious problem from the 24th
Report rogerthebutler May 24, 2016 8:22 AM BST
Demonise the extreme right-wing candidate in the (democratic) Austrian election without exploring the reasons why a nation that suffered the taint of Nazism has countenanced such a leader once more

That's not just the BBC - it's all news channels.

Nothing must derail the pro-EEC propaganda machine (away from the newspapers, which as we know, have falling circulation)
Report rogerthebutler May 25, 2016 2:11 PM BST
Today's lead headline on the BBC News website:

EU exit could add two years to austerity, IFS says

The Institute of Fiscal Studdies ('OOO are yer?') clearly trumping the warning from a dozen ex-senior military officers that EU policies are undermining the UK's combat effectiveness, in BBC-land.
Report unitedbiscuits May 25, 2016 2:42 PM BST
Institute of Fiscal Studies is a fiercely independent and well-respected institution. Attacking the credibility every party that disagrees with Brexit is not only dishonest, not only counterproductive but if we vote leave then we have to send the trash-talkers out to bat for us on trade talks, when we start over from zero.
Report treetop May 25, 2016 3:12 PM BST
However, the smell of recognition in the honours list can be very tempting for any head of a quango/economic body too. The distasteful odour surrounding much of the fear campaign has caused even respectable comments to be suspected of a bias.
Report twizzle22 May 25, 2016 3:16 PM BST
This referendum is really about Imigration but it appears the financial implications are PARAMOUNT for the "stayerinners"..you need to look at the bigger picture ub
Report rogerthebutler May 25, 2016 4:52 PM BST
Early day motion 890

GOVERNMENT FUNDING OF THE INSTITUTE OF FISCAL STUDIES
Session: 2010-12
Date tabled: 25.10.2010
Primary sponsor: Halfon, Robert
Sponsors: Davies, Philip
 

That this House is concerned that 95 per cent. of Institute of Fiscal Studies 5.1 million funding comes from so-called research grant contracts, details of which are not itemised in its accounts; notes that the vast majority of its official funding bodies are Government departments, the wider public sector, the European Commission and publicly-funded organisations, notably including the BBC,HMTreasury, the Department for Work and Pensions, the Government Equalities Office, the Department for International Development, the Department of Health, the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills, the Department for Education, the Department of Finance and Personnel for Northern Ireland, HM Revenue and Customs, the Food Standards Agency, the International Monetary Fund, the Low Pay Commission and the Office of National Statistics; further notes that the Institute for Fiscal Studies recently received a substantial part of its core funding from the Economic and Social Research Council, which is ultimately funded by the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills

Fiercely independent and well-respected is it?
Report unitedbiscuits May 25, 2016 5:29 PM BST
Of course the IFS is independent and well respected, well respected enough for leading Vote Leave to quote them.
IDS(2011) "I welcome the IFS report, which was a fair one."
Gove (2011) "The IFS is a fantastic think-tank."
Andrea Leadsom (2015) "I stand by what the IFS has said."

(Yet) Another bad day for Brexit.
Report bongo May 25, 2016 5:45 PM BST
We're still waiting for that report from the IFS, the BoE, the Treasury, the IMF or any of the other NGO feckers explaining why Norway, Iceland and Switzerland are schitholes because they're not in the EU.
Report unitedbiscuits May 25, 2016 6:03 PM BST
But we are not those countries, bongo. Iceland defaulted on its debts. Norway have benefitted from a huge surplus of energy. The Swiss model (if that is what you are promoting) is an interesting one. Financial services depend on Swiss' banks "passporting" in to the EU, mainly via London. The Swiss have to dance to the EU tune, and 40% of their legislation derives from EU rules.
Report bongo May 25, 2016 6:40 PM BST
Iceland defaulted on its debts.
and still ranks as one of the four happiest countries in the world
Norway have benefitted from a huge surplus of energy.
So have many other countries, the UK ( hey we have gas underneath Lancashire ), Greece and Spain with their sunshine and solar power more efficient than photosynthesis ( which is bollockios, but that is the claim ), don't get me started on the country with the biggest energy surpluses ( begins with a V )

And as for Switzerland, the financial services claim is bollockios - they have free trade, low regulations, and are top in the world highest manufacturing output per worker rankings.

I've heard some excuses in my time but these take the biscuit, ho ho
Report unitedbiscuits May 25, 2016 6:54 PM BST
Even if Switzerland had the favourable trade-deal with the EU, with no strings, that you describe, it would never be offered to a UK that turned its back on the EU.
Iceland may well be happy, bongo, I would be too if I didn't have to pay my bills.
Report twizzle22 May 25, 2016 6:57 PM BST
IMMIGRATION.....stop faffing on about the bloody economy
Report bongo May 25, 2016 7:09 PM BST
if Switzerland had the favourable trade-deal with the EU

Wtf is this if statement for?
Switzerland is not in the EU. It is in the Single Market. 'Trade-deal' is not relevant here.
On June 23rd we have a referendum on leaving the EU, not on leaving the Single Market.
Report treetop May 25, 2016 10:28 PM BST
The trade balance is in our favour,we have far more bargaining power if our eejits in Westminster dared to apply it to get parity.
Report rogerthebutler May 26, 2016 8:50 AM BST
The 'eejits in Westminster' work for us.

Don't sit there and tell me how terrible it's going to be after the referendum, motherfreaker get up off your ar$£ and get to work to ensure the doomsday scenarios you've been painting don't happen!
Report rogerthebutler May 26, 2016 9:56 AM BST
What the hell is this?????

The current lead item on the BBC News Website:

'Net Migration to the UK rises to 333,000'

This could be interpreted as a pro-Brexit news item so let's see how Kamal Ahmed, Laura Kuensberg etc play this one on the TV news?
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