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zorrostrikes
22 May 16 16:25
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Odds to stay in -  1.27
odds to leave -  4.6

that's not good for the out campaign.

they'll need to find photos of a cabal orgy with Cameron and the Germans to get the swing vote?
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Report Shab May 22, 2016 4:29 PM BST
I think that if there is any terrorist bother at the European Championships the vote could swing.

Plus, the migrants are still swarming into southern Europe (but strangely the newspapers are overlooking this). That is bound to kick off sooner or later.

And we are weeks away from the vote. Both sides will be keeping their best ammunition dry for the week before.

There are better 1.27s out there!
Report posy May 22, 2016 4:35 PM BST
I agree zorro ;looks absolutely nailed on.....of course whether or not that's the right decision is entirely another matter.
Report Des Pond May 22, 2016 4:39 PM BST
From a betting point of view, the best opportunities have gone. There were lots of opportunities to back at any thing from 1.46 to 1.6 and to lay off at about 1.25 - 1.26. I hope I am wrong (as I still have a few grand to put on) but I suspect that the 1.45 + has gone for good.
Report blank May 22, 2016 6:54 PM BST
At the General Election the Betfair market had no overall majority at sub 1.10 and conservative majority at 14/1 so I'm not sure the market is a credible indicator of the result. After all we know the polls are flawed and what do the market makers and movers base their opinions on apart from these and a bit of guess work? Think I'll stick to football.
Report Emitdeb May 22, 2016 7:25 PM BST
I was in, now I'm out... The vibe's been in for weeks... Think we're due a shift to out. Huge majority are still clueless and undecided at the moment. Just a few credible names need to come forward and we'll see 2.7 out... imo.
Report Dr Crippen May 22, 2016 7:48 PM BST
I can see £79,000 available to back in the 1.24 - 1.27 bracket to stay in.

I can see less than £7,000 available to leave at 4.5 - 4.7.

Make of that what you will.
Report ZenMaster May 22, 2016 7:56 PM BST
Depends on the turn out surely.
Will the followers of Corbyn show any real conviction in voting to stay in?

A lowish turn out and it's game on, possibly in favour of out.
Report terry mccann May 22, 2016 7:58 PM BST
should think it will be a big turn,BETTING SEEMS A BIT ODD  AS EVERYONE IVE MEET WANTS OUT
Report ZenMaster May 22, 2016 8:07 PM BST
Is Farage as toxic as they are saying? He is up against Cameron on June 7th, say what you like about Farage, he is THE knowledge on the EU.
Cameron has let the mask slip, seems more untrustworthy than ever and all things being right will be further exposed as a charlatan.
Report ZenMaster May 22, 2016 8:09 PM BST
Terry, i see a low turn out as those who don't like the out campaigners, lose interest to vote in.
Report brassneck May 22, 2016 8:16 PM BST
well governments rig stock markets so why not rig betting markets .if everyone has only got one vote how would anyone know who is voting yes and who is voting no.we all know polls are **** so its in the interest of certain parties that a yes vote carries on the day.its not like an election when some people say they are going to vote for bill and then go into the voting booth and vote for ben.
Report Dr Crippen May 22, 2016 8:20 PM BST
Cameron is fighting for his political career.
He'll look the biggest dunce in Parliament if we vote to leave the EU after he called the referendum and then opted for the wrong side.

Nobody takes any notice of what he says anyway. He should have remained impartial.

They're all liars, you have to make your own mind up.
Report terry mccann May 22, 2016 8:21 PM BST
time will tell zen but id be surprise if not big turn out,depends how strong people feel of course
Report brassneck May 22, 2016 8:36 PM BST
Ireland voted no 15 years ago,so the government at the time said the people misunderstood and they called for a second vote and got a yes,5 years ago they admitted that the vote would have been put to the irish people any number of times until the European union got a yes.the decision to put the vote a second time came direct from Europe.
Report Burton-Brewers May 22, 2016 8:52 PM BST
if only it was so easy as to just follow bookies odds
Report DIE LINKE May 22, 2016 9:16 PM BST
OUT haven't only lost the economic argument, they haven't even offered one. Cameron must be wetting himself at how easy he's had it. A month to go and they have already lost the plot. The OUTers can't even conjure up an immigrant scare story without it unraveling within the hour.
Report Dr Crippen May 22, 2016 9:27 PM BST
I thought the leave campaigners had easily won the economic case.

Companies will be free to expand without being shackled by EU red tape.

We won't leave for two years anyway if we decide to come out.

Cameron's getting wilder with his claims, which shows how rattled he's becoming.
Report DIE LINKE May 22, 2016 9:29 PM BST
is that the economic case then? "Companies will be free to expand without being shackled by EU red tape." or is there any more?
Report Dr Crippen May 22, 2016 9:30 PM BST
Public services Like education and the NHS staggering under the extra numbers, jobs and housing going to immigrants.
Towns being taken over by ethnics and Eastern Europeans.

Does anyone need a politician to tell them that?
Report Dr Crippen May 22, 2016 9:31 PM BST
Well DIE LINKE, it's what the companies have said themselves which is more than the in campaigners can come up with.
Report terry mccann May 22, 2016 9:31 PM BST
"you can

check out anytime you like but you can never leave"
Report Dr Crippen May 22, 2016 9:32 PM BST
The in campaigners have come up with nothing tangible at all.
Report Owmybrainhurtz May 22, 2016 9:36 PM BST
100 years ago anyone like Cameron selling British sovereignty abroad would have been shot as a traitor. Today the traitors want you to vote for them!
Report Dr Crippen May 22, 2016 9:38 PM BST
Absolutely Owmybrainhurtz, I think he'd sell his own mother if the price was right.
Report DIE LINKE May 22, 2016 9:48 PM BST
Problem for OUT has always been that they had to go beyond preaching to the converted. If the best they can come up with is using immigrants as convenient scapegoats for failings in the NHS, education and housing, they are done for. Farage was sidelined because he would turn off far more voters that he would attract, but the Tory outers are repeating the same mistakes.
Report bix May 22, 2016 10:44 PM BST
Immigration is running at over 300,000 per year so in 3 years we've got an extra million. That's roughly the same number that live in Birmingham or Manchester.
The politicians who want us to stay in should be asked what plans have been made to accommodate the extra people. What plans have been made to house them, and build more schools, hospitals etc; provide more services and amenities. What plans have been made to allow for the strain on our obsolete and currently inadequate road and transport system.
We all know that their are no plans whatsoever. They are just hoping that it somehow sorts itself out so my vote is OUT.
Report brassneck May 22, 2016 11:46 PM BST
Anblinken horizont hzute nacht=german for look at horizon tonight.we must stop the English from smoking.
mark my words,the germans are about to take over .come into my web said the german spider to the english  fly.
Report Shab May 22, 2016 11:54 PM BST
I've got 3 votes - all for OUT

i am the proxy for my daughter and her husband who are elsewhere.

OUT. OUT. OUT.
Report brassneck May 22, 2016 11:59 PM BST
if people don't vote for out they will end up eating strudel for lunch and then going for a spin in their volkzwagen on the new autobahn.Laugh
Report brassneck May 23, 2016 12:08 AM BST
And shopping in supermarkets called aldi and lidl and banking their euro in banks with dankhs name above them.
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