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If you are going to cut/paste stuff, you should attribute it, and then distinguish between that and your own comments. It will make life much easier as people can argue with you or the Guardian as appropriate.
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why? makes no difference to the content buti am sorry if this posting upset you in any way i'm not 100% - but the more i think about it the more likely am to want out you in or out ? |
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I really cannot see how Greece are ever going to pay this debt? It is gong to have to be written off some time. The alternative is to devalue money, but then we have inflation, which endangers everybody on fixed incomes. It is the Credit crunch which has caused all this, but it is fairly obvious in hindsight the EU was always a very poor economic model. Otherwise it would never have allowed Greece to run up these debts in the first place. We live in uncertain times. |
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They got bills, they're multiplying and their losing control.
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Greece is bridling at the unrealistic demands of the European commission and the International Monetary Fund to agree to fresh austerity measures
They aren't "fresh" measures - they are the ones they agreed to last year and are now trying to renege on. The Greeks have had the solution in their hands for years - leave the euro. |
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There is one way Greece could pay off their debt
Pay them to take all Muslim refugees in the EU, since there is no work in Greece the EU may have foot the benefits bill An idea, we seem to be bribing Turkey already to take them |
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Greece should never been allowed to join as their GDP was not at the required levels laid out in the Copenhagen agreement. Neither was Poland's or any of the other ex communist states, and neither is Turkey's or the Ukraine's. That is why so many have moved to the richer EU countries, and there are millions more who will do the same when they join the club.
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http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/07/12/pensioned-off-at-33-no-wonder-greece-is-bankrupt/
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I spend a fair amount of time in Cyprus and read the article above last year. Cyprus isn't much better.
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Burton-Brewers • May 3, 2016 12:15 PM BST
Greece should never been allowed to join as their GDP was not at the required levels laid out in the Copenhagen agreement. Neither was Poland's or any of the other ex communist states, and neither is Turkey's or the Ukraine's. That is why so many have moved to the richer EU countries, and there are millions more who will do the same when they join the club. You are saying if the EU stuck to the rules we would be ok ...I did not know thatYou should have run the EU BB...you would have had my vote |
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they don't need me EG but what is the point in making these treaty rules if they are not adhered to? Brussels now just wants a super state at any cost and as swiftly as possible, to those who say we can opt out of the bits we don't like I say nuts. A super state is coming and with it a single tax system, education, judicial, currency, police and armed forces. It might take 10-20 years but it is coming.
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If just half the stuff in that link Tallywagger put up is true, then no wonder Greece is down the toilet.
That's not "bad bankers" causing their country to go down the tubes, it's self-screwed-up. I can't remember the smug bald socialist 'econonmist' from Greece mentioning any of this stuff, .. wasn't he going to be advising Corbyn? |