London or New York

new york

central park/broadway/food

I guess one department New York could never beat London on is Mosques

Both are special  in their own unique way. But have to say New York is amazing.

New York/London seriously

Thats like comparing Kilmarnock to Cancun

london being kilmarnock

Facts did i say you could post here?

Foydc

Facts
Facts 22 Apr 16 21:11 Joined: 05 May 03 | Topic/replies: 21,280 | Blogger: Facts's blog
Foydc

Weather in New York can be extreme from 4ft of snow in the winter to stifling heat and humidity in summer months, depends on when you're going.

NY for xmas would be great hit all the bars

London for me.
Why cross an ocean to visit a sh1thole when there's one just down the road?

Only conceivable reason for going is to visit the excellent art galleries, concert halls or theatres. For anything else there's just as good in your home town.

I went newyork sept--indian summer 24c

Apparently Ronaldo has bought a flat in New York .... in Trump Tower

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/7018864/Cristiano-Ronaldo-set-for-legal-battle-over-Trump-Tower-apartment-he-donated-to-his-Moroccan-friend-Badr-Hari.html


for a friend

You can just imagine ronaldo trying to get past Trump reception and being asked by security
"hey man, you aren't mexican are you"?

Ron-Russian - there are about 300 mosques in the approx 800 sq km of New York City. London would be about twice the size, so what are the numbers of mosques in London?  You'd know, shirley!  400?

New york is imho visit worth a visit at least once, it's so familiar to us from films and TV, its like you've walked onto a film set, and it's a different scale vertically to London. It's true I think about tourists getting a sore neck looking up.

I was on about Mosques radicalizing extremists - surely we'd win in
that department

I am lucky enough to have been born and live in London but also spent a few years in New York. The two greatest cities in the world. Paris naturally is third on the list.

400 odd according to a source - just looked on a map - unfortunately looks
like London's been peppered with them - what a mess

Give it up Ron, you're making a tool of yourself son.

New York is a great city, beautiful respectable houses and cheerful parks. It has a love of humanity that London lacks. It is the people who live there that give it its quality and New York seems so much more charismatic and grown up.
London semms to have become much more insular and backward, especially in the last 30 or 40 years. I don`t believe anything good has come from London in that time.

As a born and bred Londoner who now lives in Yorkshire, I have to agree with lfc1971.

London has become a horrid place and much of that is due to the manic drive towards 'yoof' culture that is engulfing the UK.

Yes, London has wonderful history but the people appall me now.

New York is exciting and has a presence which London lacks.

Having said that, on my last visit to New York I picked up a paper and read how a paperboy had been shot in the head and left in a coma the day before. He had been robbed of his takings and left on the pavement (sidewalk. That, it must be said, is not something you would see in London but until those in the US sort out their mad gun laws it will continue to blight their nation.

as you say lfc the people contribute to making a city feel a great place -
London still has the sights but has lost many of the good folk - Mainly made up of a multicultural
mess now, but Johnny feels he was lucky to be born into this.

You see  New York of course is made up of all different people and nationalities and they have made it a great strength. But how have they achieved this in a way that London has not.
It has been done in a way by cultural imperialism and not pandering to diversity.
The rules are modern and intelligent and they expect this of their citizens.

Any city that combines the words 'modern' and 'museum' is to be avoided. E.g. if it has a museum of modern art
If it's modern wtf is it doing in a museum?

London wins this 2-horse contest

lived and worked in London for 6 years moved 40 mins up the
road 17 years ago,no wish to go back

Any city that has paintings by Edward Hooper, perhaps the greatest 20c artist, is worth a visit for that alone. The Whitney museum has a great collection and i think the museum of modern art has some also.

Go to any art museum in NewYork and they are likely to have paintings by Hooper, and a lot of them. Very beautiful and modern.

London by a live long mile before ye gave it away.

London had everything,history,great architecture and great people but the Elite gave it away.
Its now become a giant Casbah that generates money and crime,nothing else.

did anyone ever see this, from 2 years ago, BBC Live done a poll on
is multiculturalism working....95% said NO

& this nearly 2 years ago......it's worth a quick view just to watch the poll picture!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_oIUHRRCTM

Never been to New York, so can't comment too much but I'd be a backer at 1/100 that its better than London (massive sh1thole).

lfc - you mean Hopper

bongo - "Any city that combines the words 'modern' and 'museum' is to be avoided. E.g. if it has a museum of modern art
If it's modern wtf is it doing in a museum?"   

Since there is a risk that you are serious.  Hope this will help. "museum" = a building in which objects of historical, scientific, artistic, or cultural interest are stored and exhibited.

"museum" = a building in which objects of historical, scientific, artistic, or cultural interest are stored and exhibited.



On those judgement

who's Fs

Some people are comparing the best of New York to the best of London, which is fair enough as visitors like to see the best.
But how do the worst neighbourhoods of these cities match up:
e.g. Newham versus Brownsville

@blackbarn: imv a building which houses MODERN objects of historical, scientific, artistic, or cultural interest has another name. It's called a shop.

I often walk the galleries of Tesco, admiring how the blue and white arrogance of the "Value" brands challenge my perception of immigration, as they sit there, in the mediterranean of the tins isle, in their life jackets of tomato juice, juxtaposed with "Heinz" beans, screaming "Merkel" and "Affluence" at me with their Germanic, beany, flair.

Channel 4 news, that's a load of t*ss, can I do your arts reviews?

New York

New York is the most overrated city in the world

London is better

Paris is far superior to them both.

Just Checking, your excellent Tesco post reminded me of Duane Hanson's "Supermarket Lady"

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0a/93/06/0a930680796dd6dbb7a617e9c5c2a982.jpg

I like Hopper's work too lfc. Would dispute your claim that he's perhaps the greatest 20th Century artist though.

A great advantage NY has over London is its compactness.

London is a pain in the boll0x and costly to get around, day or night.  NY is a breeze to get around, relatively speaking.

New Yorkers do have an unwarranted reputation for being quite unfriendly but I have to say us Londoners, on the whole, are far more rude to people.

Both fair to middling. 4 or 5 days in either is enough until next year.

Yes that's the way the London's gone JM.

Downhill all the way until everyone hates one another - wonder why that is

Most people including tourist in London use an Oyster card to get around and all the attractions are pretty much in zones 1-4 which with an oyster card is capped at £9.20 a day, not sure how much a day pass is in New York, but when you try getting cab in London, you realise what good value the tube is, and it's a pretty good underground network easy to navigate imo. Also kids travel free. Having said that heathrow is in zone 6 so would have to pay a bit more on first and last day.

Last thing you want to do after a days work and commute in London is to get back on the tube to go out.  Plus it stops early.  The alternative costs an arm and a leg.  By comparison you can breeze around Manhattan in a cab at night for relative peanuts.

Not a mention of the Boris Bike alternative - shocking

London is much more compact than people realise. Relatively easy to get around. I've been to NYC a number of times and it's a great city but London is better imo. For theatre, music, sporting events, great food and wine its brilliant.

take yesterday, a little ride on the thames clipper from London bridge to grrenwich,great views from the river including tower bridge,
a look round the market in said Greenwich,then a superb streak dinner with plenty drink,
a short bus ride to the o2 to see ELO with the feeling as support, the gig as good as it sounds,
whats not to like about London?

Sounds a great day Terry.  Not sure I like the idea of removing my clothes to eat though

Londons a lot cleaner than it looked years ago and someone told me that living fish actually live in the Thames for the first time since the 1500s    ,but today it looks like a flat pack city - designed by IKEA - 'orrible

Never been to NY

New York is everything you hope to find in the big-city, London just isn't.

affordable is what they call it coach,ah my kin spelling again,yeah a very fine day blackbarn

Been to both as a tourist a few times.  Not much to choose between them IMO.  Paris jízzes over both from a great height.

Am i the only one who hates Paris and have been 3 times
ok once was with the M-in- law,much preferred Rome.
Never been NY

Never knew until today that Boris Jonhson was born in New York.

You can feel and smell the history when you walk around London, that's why I think it has the edge. Though I haven't been to New York but still.

If anyone has been persuaded by this thread to go to the Big Apple, I can thoroughly recommend the Library Hotel (Madison and 42nd). It isnt cheap (NY isnt, but it is not ridiculous) and your partner will be very impressed.  If you have not been to NY, it is something you must do at least once imo.

Witham - I much prefer Rome to Paris too.  Mind you in Europe, Rome would be on a par with Dublin (the craic) and Brussels (the food). I like Amsterdam too 'cos it's so small and that rijsttafel   Oh and Vienna is lovely....

Amsterdam indeed absolutely beasts over London. And is probably as easier and cheaper to get to than London for the vast majority of people in the UK. You don't need to speak a word of the foreign lingo either.

Got the ferry over to Amsterdam from Harwich a few years ago
great party atmosphere in the bars around town

Ffs anyone who picks Landan needs sectioning..

been to London. Was worst day of mi life. No intention of ever going to America. Land of the suing nation.