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Judge is a prat. It is one thing for us to think he deserved it (even after six years) but the law is supposed to be impartial and unemotional.
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Agree. Kangaroo courts will be next.
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This is a difficult case.
She has some justification here, but we need to operate within a justice system, rather than just take personal revenge. This girl is clearly troubled. My suggestion would be confinement in a some of psychiatric institution, this girl patently needs help |
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From the titbits of information from the story in the Mail:
The judge does not see the girl as a threat to society as a whole She acted under extreme duress She rightly felt that she had been let down by judicial decisions in the past based on outdated sentencing guidelines She had been the subject of further harassment from the perpetrator No purpose would be served from jailing her or putting her into judicial custody She handed herself in and confessed to the incident immediately She has continued support from her family. She needs support as opposed to punishment. There will be many other details that the judge had access to not reported or considered sensational enough to report on in the paper. Conclusion: Given the circumstances that are revealed the judge made a brave and correct decision. Given what he knew when making it and what we don't know it would be obvious that this was the right course of action. He is not a prat and the girl does not deserveor need to be dragged off into some secure mental unit. Case closed. Next! |
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its not difficult at all. if the justice system "failed her", its not justification to stab someone no matter how heinous the crime
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Johnny_Mustang 19 Apr 16 16:49 Joined: 18 Feb 07 | Topic/replies: 9,200 | Blogger: Johnny_Mustang's blog
Agree. Kangaroo courts will be next. They already exist |
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I am glad you think it is that simple Clouseau
I cannot understand why this man was not sent to prison??????, this is a serious crime. Because of this, this girl may well have felt she was to blame, even though she was not because she was only 8. She has been excluded from school, something tells me this girl needs help. Putting her into a mental health unit may allow people to see what is going on this with girl. I was not suggesting it to punish her, but to offer her help, that was my point. |
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Two wrongs never make a right, it would have dealt with that problem.
She may not have needed to be there long, just seemed the right course here, oh well. They don't pay me to be a judge. |
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She might stab someone else then he will be really fcked
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well maybe not fkced but it will come back at him
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Indeed Chaser, we needed judge Ebul on this one
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Yes indeed how do you go about law school
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Great call from the judge...deserves to be come Lord Chancellor
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His call will not look so good if she stabs someone else will it.
I don't think we are allowed to stab one another unless it is in self defence. She was failed by the law I can see that, when her abuser was not jailed, I find it hard to blame her. But can the judge guarantee she wont do it again? Unless the law allows women who have been abused or raped to stab their attacker in revenge? Would save on court costs I suppose. |
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sad case hope the girl ok
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Whilst you can't help but feel sorry for the girl you can't condone what she did.
Tis revenge not justice and where do you stop if you allow revenge. |
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ebul... The judge made his decision on much more information than is reported in the press.
The judge's decision, based on the evidence available, was that this is a one-off incident in a particular set of circumstances. The judge's view, based on experience and knowledge, states that the girl is not a threat to society as a whole and that she would not benefit from incarceration in a mental health institution. The girl's own life and self-esteem had already been indelibly affected through no conceivable fault of her own Let's just accept that in these particular circumstances she needs and deserves all the support society can give to allow her to make the best of what's left. |
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That's fair enough..he knows more about the circumstances than I do
There is a precedent here, he has allowed someone to take personal revenge on someone that harmed her by stabbing him, and it is perfectly legal So my question is can everybody do this????????????????????????????? |
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Yes they can ebul... if the circumstances are identical to this case, which they are unlikely to be.
A hairy-arsed judge has decided on the evidence before him that the girl did not deserve any further punishment to what she had already been subject to throughout her short life. Well done the judge. We cannot contemplate what this girl has had to go through and continue to live her life in the shadow of. It is not a vigilante charter. This case was decided on its merits. It does not set a precedent for people who have had their pint spilled to claim self-defence if they chin whoever did it. To |
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All judgements set a precedent.
I can see the natural justice of it. This is extreme behaviour, victims do not normally do this. The original sentence on the man was wrong of course, it has never been remotely legal in this country since I remember to sexually assault 8 year girls, or encourage them to engage in sex. I wont say that this is an injustice, because I don't think the man has much room for complaint. I don't know if this is on the Internet in any more detail? |
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I don't know if there is a link to the original case?
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