Take Your Country Back.

Yes i believe they are interested in Britain. However i disagree with then in this respect. No one who lives in Britain today should consider themselves British and none should consider that they have any duty or responsibility to this country.
To do so would be a mistake.

Do you think that millions of your fellow citizens will feel they have anything in common with you, that at a time of crisis they would help and protect you?

Perhaps they would, perhaps not.

Not sure, but would it make any difference if I voted leave instead?

To vote leave is not an answer in itself. The country then would also have to change. How it can change i don`t know it is maybe too late.

You see democracy has never worked, anywhere. By allowing people to vote is not democracy. It is an ideal and everything is important.

It's great to see a country that once ruled half the world barely capable of ruling even itself.

The comments of a low life.

Still, good things happened to Cilla and Daniels, so fingers crossed for Collins!


Irrefutable evidence.

Eeternaloptimist    16 Apr 16 13:20 
The comments of a low life.

Thanks EO. I have a very high opinion of you too.

vile

I'm pretty pimpin', for sure.

'I was genuinely open-minded but all the loons on here seem to favour leaving, so remain is the only sensible option.'

Mikael , thanks for this classic insight into the way the Left think.

The spread of Islam is opposite to what all liberals believe in , yet because the so called 'loons' are greatly concerned, the Left welcome Islam with open arms.

Illogical Captain...

Anybody who celebrates the death of other people just because they don't share political views isn't playing with a full deck and you are one of the worst offenders Mikael. Let's hope karma has something in store for you.

So you're going to blame the inevitable defeat on loony lefties, huh?

Eeternaloptimist    16 Apr 16 15:12 
Anybody who celebrates the death of other people just because they don't share political views isn't playing with a full deck and you are one of the worst offenders Mikael. Let's hope karma has something in store for you.

Seems to me like you're doing the same thing. Never had you down as a hypocrite, EO.

Btw, I've 'celebrated' the death of approximately one person in my lifetime. If reincarnation is a thing, I'll celebrate it in the next life too.

Karma can be good or bad. I'll take what is due to me. Your comments above about Paul Daniels and Cilla Black were in exceptionally bad taste whether you consider them celebratory or not. I don't recall being anything but respectful towards left wing politicians when they died.

So you were wishing me well? My comprehension skills clearly require work.

i like this thread, not a lot, but i like it

Perhaps more your compassion rather than comprehension is the issue Mikael. There's a long tradition of not speaking ill of the dead in this country. Mocking them is something most people would find appalling.

Though I do note some of your fellow travellers on the left share your habit.

I spoke ill of them while they were alive, tbf.

Btw, we may have an unleashed mongrel, old fridge and a couple of tyres on the back yard, but we're not travellers.

Are you sure ?

That was my point Mikael. It's traditionally quite okay to be sceptical and even excoriating in life but not in death. Is this a generational thing I wonder? Are you a young chap? What is acceptable changes generation to generation so maybe it is okay today?

LFC

since the dawn of time man has moved around..to get away from other people.
_____________

that tickled me 

If they ever open a School Of Fucckwittery and have Fucckwittery on the syllabus then I have every confidence they will will choose you to be its maiden Professor. Which would be something of a shame. Someone who displays your flair for fucckwittery should be allowed to simply walk the length and breadth of this sceptred isle as a kind of Fili Fucckwit.

By the way I spelt my name exactly as I wished. No mistake made. Unlike your mother.

Can you point out this glaring contradiction you see?

Your own post is a little contradictory in itself. You bemoan the lack of originality in a Primary School insult and yet end your own post inviting myself to have a day off. Just possibly mildly amusing back in 1830 when the original cockney wanchor used it. Sadly, neither original or amusing nearly two centuries later and yet you found it so funny that you just had to post a laughing emoticon just in case anybody didn't get your bard like wit.

What's the matter sucker? Lights out? Electric run out? Or are you rationed on emoticons?

I'll give you one thing. You keep coming. You've got nothing but you keep coming. Which is either admirable in a Light Brigade kind of way or rather stupid. The smart money is on the latter.

scandanavian_haven  • April 16, 2016 12:20 PM BST 
Since the dawn of time man has moved around

not all here though?

I watched Neil Oliver's program on early Britain...people would not have come here in the Paoleothic age

it was seriously cold and they only had Mammoth to eat

So if we don't vote out now

We will have to wait until the next ice age to stop people coming here

When the last mammoths died out, the Great Pyramids of Giza were 1,000 years old. Stonehenge was about 1,500 years old.

acquiesce well and truly owned

Dr Hammond explains how.....

Islam progressively takes over countries

http://blog.godreports.com/2015/09/how-islam-takes-over-countries/

This is why I think we should Vote Leave :

- uncontrolled immigration has put too much pressure on infrastructure (schools, hospitals, GPs, house prices)

- continuous uncontrolled supply of unskilled labour from Eastern Europe has deflated wage growth for the British working class for many years

- EU exists for the elites and global corporates at the expense of its citizens. The EU has crushed the Greek people to save the Euro and is destroying Italy, Spain and Portugal.

- Supremacy of EU law over UK law, which will continue to erode sovereignty.

- TTIP will essentially privatise the NHS, opening it up to US corporations.

- The EU is anti democratic. The key decisions are not taken by the MEPs, which are our only ability to elect into the EU. Indeed, Merkel alone forced the immigration crisis and the Turkey refugee solution (!).

- We have no power in the EU. It is dominated by Germany and France, increasingly the former.

- It will continue towards being a superstate without democratic legitimacy, taking more and more powers from us

- If we remain, Cameron's negitiations make us a 2nd tier player. I want to leave, but if we remain we are surely better off putting everything into it and trying to lead the thing. We won't be able to do that now.

- We can't strike our own free trade agreements. We also can't put our own tariffs up to protect our indutstries, for instance when China dumps steel on us.

- If we leave, Cameron will have to resign, however much he wants to deny it, and the EU would probably disintegrate within a few years, starting with Greece, Italy and Spain.

I accept that uncertainty may hold investment back for a couple of years, but ultimately, without the UK buying German machine tools, cars and consumer goods, the German economy would take a big hit. A trade deal, with the UK required to pay a sum (though a fraction of our membership fee) to the EU without accepting freedom of movement, is how this would play out. It's in German and British interests.

To think the world's fifth largest economy and fourth military power can't go it alone is laughable.

Read the latest bs

.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36068892

like the treasury have ever got anything right.

love the picture of the non british editor explaining whats
good for this country........

toooooooooooooooo far broke that's the problem.

It is not our country - we don't own it.  But if you want us to stay anything like great britain that we just about still know, we have to fight for this referendum OUT tooth and nail.  But the establishment will seek to keep big business in power and use the ants to work harder for their profits.  If anyone doesn't understand what the EU is all about you need to see what was being discussed in Nazi germany in 1944.  See which companies are still in prominence today!!!  Check our 'friends'(from across the pond) and their involvement. what do you think the marshal plan was all about.

hey look guys -  I don't even think the eu is the issue - I think it is the muslim takeover long term that is the problem.  Coming to a town near you - you heard it here first.

all the British Army is near White.

This way of life is bred into these sort of people.

but come on lets think why on earth would you want to protect this
sh1t hole of a county when you'll get spat on etc on your home coming
by muslim **** ? ......

Im all for this country but your being alienated - yet they expect the white
people to join the forces??

tell em b0ll0cks - how about Mohammads troops having a go?

The EU wants the invasion of cheap labour who will also dilute your indigenous population, all aided by USA and their backers who all play the middle east to suit the agenda.

Hey numbnuts. I'll tell you what I don't do and that is wait a whole day to drop that pile of ****. If a dog slipped that out it would tuck its tail between it legs, scrape its ar5e on the floor as it crawled away wimpering to seek out the nearest vet or hole to crawl in and die.

Jesus H Christ where have all the free rappers and crack talkers gone? Do I have to beat up Mr Floppy all the time?

we need someone strong in command.

blair for starters would be charged for the damage he's caused
to the country, cameron would get a lesser sentence as he took over
from that nob.
blair be 10 years in prison
camerom 240 hours community service

but now we need a leader? who?

People laugh at Britain First but at least they care about Britain
unlike these left nutters who want to destroy the country

“From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population,” Dr. Hammond notes. “For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food” and increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature such food on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply

“When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions,” Dr. Hammond notes. “In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.” These tensions are seen on a regular basis

i reckon we're on stage 2

The Police will not touch them they can do as they please.

as Britain First are showing it's not a free country anymore,
These animals can punch kick & spit at women & nothing is done,
in fact the complete opposite happens & the attacked white person gets
arrested

But what i find strange is police are awfully keen to carry out instructions, would love to know their train of thought during their shifts.

Probably thinking of the new Merkel incentive...

Daily prayers..

we're being policed wrongly.

when was the last time you see a muslim flattened with his face
pushed against the tarmac? They know they can do as they please it's
so pathetic - why can't people see whats happening???????????????

err   they are already doing halal food in tescos  it is already happening

but they told us sharia law didn't exist here - I was called a nazi for mentioning it

there are 85 at least, with the luton sharia court house emblazoned with foot high letters!!

the changling mr phillips ch4 programme had a woman on their who was introduced as a sharia court judge

I thought there were no sharia courts - it is so fkn insiduous

You can't believe how much damage done to a once great country
in what would you say the last 20 years?

I Can remember from 1997 when that tw@t took power this country has
been riddled with foreigners.

how does he sleep at night knowing the damage his done?

Blair should be inside for life

soon (not long now) you will be hauled in for questioning for saying those sort of things

fortunately I will be dead

annie they already have a foot hold ie sharia courts.

what idiot ever allowed that, probably the same idiot that allows them
to have part of westminster under sharia law.

in time you will need to get one of them dresses annie & unfortunately
for you Burton Brewers will be able to tell you what to do.

go to the bull ring

see the guy with a nice table and banners proclaiming the koran

pop into primark and count the muslim woman

it is truly worrying

they tried to get sharia law through the law council(?)  the body that represents lawyers till it was found out
but as they grow in influence it will not be long before it is that august organisation's policy

You don't know you're born. Come to Bradford. Middle aged Asian women who don't speak a word of English, despite having lived here most of their lives. Every nationaloty under the sun congregating in this once proud white English City and speaking goodness knows what.. It's a sihthole despite looking nice at first glance. I won't go on, I've been banned twice for going off on one.

three times as many claim benifits in dewsbury  many more than the average in the uk
30 percent of women stay at home - much more than the uk average

dewsbury is one of the best examples of misogyny in the uk

The states has already got one..

Diana Ross?

Close, Hendrix.

from making a thread about spelling forgetting he misspelt his own name to calling out someone for speaking ill of the dead then wishing karma on him which in effect is doing the same thing whilst perched up on his high horse,

Like I said it was spelt exactly how I wished it to be. More importantly how is wishing karma on someone the same as speaking ill of the dead? I presume Mikael is alive and well even if he's not been on since.

You're not very good at this logic game are you?

Better stick to emoticons.

Acquiesce ( surely the most appropriate user name ever ) asks " how many Muslims are on the dole "" the answer is all the radicals ones.

You can guarantee all those gentlemen on Sharia patrols are on it,they even call it Jihadis allowance

Even more disgracefully all the local Imams are on it and the more wives they have the more they get,they end up with multiple houses paid for by you while army veterans are homeless.

If they ever open a School Of Fucckwittery and have Fucckwittery on the syllabus then I have every confidence they will will choose you to be its maiden Professor. Which would be something of a shame. Someone who displays your flair for fucckwittery should be allowed to simply walk the length and breadth of this sceptred isle as a kind of Fili Fucckwit.

LOL, Blackadder would have been proud of that.

Yes Eternal has put a lot into that one


Osborne said today Britain would be 6% poorer by 2030 if we left the EU

He is appealing to two simple things greed and risk adverseness which may finally keep us in


The problem is, unless one is an expert nobody knows whether we will win or lose if we come out

because of conflicting figures. It is the figures which should make the decision, but it won't be

it will be emotion.


My view is we must come out because we cannot keep expanding our population, if anything we could do with a reduction.

People say if we have population control we sill have an aging society.

But frankly if people live longer they need to work longer.

the arguments for leaving are flawed.

1.immigration....we have more non eu immigrants and have control over those yet bring more in............
2.the payment to the eu.....less than a 10th if the nhs bill
and less then the housing benefit bill which was caused by not controlling house prices.
3.laws....er well look at the recent changes to employment law....i know which side as a normal working class person id be on and its the eu over the government all day long....that one is personal prefference.

on point 2.
this is spouted about a lot yet because we cant work out the benefit of being in the eu (in £££££) most think its zero.
so also using point two as an argument is clearly flawed.

one thing is for certain.
if we do have to enter a tarrif based option the cost gets passed onto us.

the knock on effects of that??

who knows but its not going to help .

1. stop all immigration, those at the top don`t want to do this so find membership of the EU can mask their true intentions..mass cheap labour.

2. membership of the EU vastly increases our nhs costs.

3. There is only one thing that can protect workers rights and that is a shortage of labour.

eu membership vastly increases business and lowers costs for imports which rises will get passed onto us.

disagree re point 3.
only thing that can protect workers rights is having businesses that dont just think about profit only....and strong unions.

point 3. Its impossible to have strong unions when there are thousands of workers to pick from from outside the union.
Nothing, no amount of gov. or european leg. will stop wages and conditions being driven down, and that is for those who can get work.

If the dangers to the economy are so serious (6% drop according to Number 11), why did Call Me Dave offer a referendum???

It was a political manouvere of course. He was losing ground to UKIP and the ref is an olive branch. Pathetic.

How careless and cowardly of the PM to risk defeat IF what Osbourne says is true.

I call it Jellyfied leadership. Oh for some backbone..

Where's the Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Comedian?

Any perceived cost is irrelevant, to be free from Brussels is priceless.

too many other things can influence the economies of the world
you simply cannot predict for certain

look at the saudis threatening to withdraw dosh from the states if congress presses ahead on the 9/11 links to the saudis

OR 
the failure to agree on oil production at the dohar conference - just for starters

too many other things can influence the economies of the world
you simply cannot predict for certain

We vote Governments in because we rather hope they can mobo, although they always fail.

Anyway I will never get the society I want anyway, I want a MENS society but I can only see a women's society

which I hate.

That also means we will stay in the EU sadly, because women are risk adverse, so we will be too scared to leave.

I will vote out.

I have worked out you want a 100% non Muslim society Mobo, I am not sure you will get your wish either

It's a good job my pocket was open or I wouldn't have heard you in there. By the way tell all that to the people who have been pointing and laughing at you.

If the dangers to the economy are so serious (6% drop according to Number 11), why did Call Me Dave offer a referendum???

because calling a referendum  will make the tories seem like a nice decent party whilst hiding their anti workers stance.

the fall back if the vote goes wrong is we just opt to stay in the eea which effectively means we just make our own policies on farming and fishing.

i think also this means that countries not in the eea cant be involved in free movement.

now im thinking they need to call a referendum on the eea issue or make the decision themselves.
but nothing has been said....very odd.

I see you got my post deleted eeternalhypocrite

That voice is not coming from your pocket, it's coming from you head where I've been living for the past few months....rent free....

Did it really take you two days to announce that in the best case scenario, advocated by yourself, that you are a parasite?

By the way just for your peace of mind, such that it is, I don't and have never got posts deleted. I'm with the poster who said you are the most bitter tw@t on here so why would I want to stop you advertising the fact?

By the way I know you are in my pocket. You keep stroking my balls. Once is an accident. Twice is a habit. More than three times is an obsession.

Posted that two days ago which you know as you had it deleted seeing as you were made to look a prized c*** yet again. Now you're upset I've reposted it, lovely

We know you're a liar from the fact you misspelt your own username but insist you spelt it the way you wanted..... give it up ffs, you're a forum joke.

Wrong again sucker. You aren't even a turd dropped out of the behind of some of the people I've dragged into the deep end and drowned over the years. Ask some of the old timers on the politics forum. A long time ago I was the original eternaloptimist and when you have a body of work that good anybody would want to be associated with it. Whereas you have what? Oh that's right the accolade of fighting off stiff competition for being crowned the most bitter tw@t on here.

Have another read about what people have written about you. If you dare. Don't have nightmares.

Where are my manners?

You can go now.

Phuck me, that was worth reading.

Yet another nauseating, self indulgent anecdote about how great YOU think YOU are

You are your biggest fan who seems to think he's some kind of wordsmith genius, it's amateurish and slapdash at best that only serves to send my eyes rolling to the back of my head, shame the queue here to massage your ego is only one deep as you'll always Burton Brewers, c0ck in one hand, clapping the side of his head like a hormonal seal with the other

Honestly you can go. No Svengali like hold here. As for the rest I'll step back and allow others and not Burton to speak for me:

Twizzle:

acquiesce well and truly owned

You got that? Owned. Well and truly.

wildman

Acquiesce ( surely the most appropriate user name ever )

Kenny:

LOL, Blackadder would have been proud of that.

And that's just on this thread. Roll your eyes at that and when they've finished rolling see if you can find them and stick em back in. Just don't do a Ben Turpin.

In fact do and give us all a laugh because you are one dreary cnunt.

Rattled are we

It's not me who craves the adulation you dope

Quoting from the old boys club, your fellow chit chat right wing loonies is meant to meant what ffs

Twizzle is an inane boring rambler, Kenny is weird cat freak and Wildmanfromborneo is a leper on every forum he graces, but thanks for the references all the same...

It's quite simple. You make statements. I take them apart with evidence. It's easy but very effective. I just don't understand one thing. All those heroes who went before you who lowered themselves into the abyss to confront me with what they thought was top of the range intellectual gear and a big thick rope causing them to think they were safe as well. Unfortunately half way down they looked up to see me doing to them what I'm doing to you which was cutting their rope strand by strand. You see curmudgeonly stubborness which is all you have doesn't get you anything in this game. It just makes you look lost.

What puzzles me is why people like you don't learn? Is it so inconceivable to you to contemplate that you are simple overmatched? It makes no difference to me. The ones with barnacles on taste sweeter when I boil them and I really do laugh at you coming at me with your primitive skills. Unfortunately for you I'm not early era Tyson mimicking Dempsey helping his vanquished foe back to the stool.

I will crush you, enjoy it and take nothing out of myself in doing so. It amuses me. I'm sure you agree that one must get ones pleasures where one can. Or maybe I'm speaking to the wrong guy. Maybe masochism is your thing and you're sat with an orange in your mouth willing me to spank you and call you a naughty boy.

Did you go to public school?

Go on now. Stick some more emoticons up. Tell the world how much you're laughing. Did you ever write for Smokey Robinson?

You don't even realise what you're doing do you

The mere fact you feel the desperate desire to launch yourself into such a strong defence of the (pseudo) intellectual image you've spent years building up (you sad c***) tells me.....a nerve has been hit

Keep praising yourself, there is no praise quite like it, but I will give you this, you are good at it which is no surprise as it's all you've got

Even in some alternate reality where that was true I wish I could return the compliment and say you also had some special quality other than special needs. I just can't bring myself to lie other than to once again comment on your ability to keep coming back whilst uniting a vast array of other people into one thought namely you make Clement Freud appear like a happy clapper.

Empty handed and armed with emoticons but that's it. Beaten but too proud to accept the truth. I find it hard to concede this to myself but I'm pitying you right now.

So keep thinking you've hit a nerve. A man without hope is a man lost wandering in the dark. The least I can do is shove a candle up your ar5e.

Would you like a light? Don't worry the wick is sticking outwards.

And there he was, bashing away at his keyboard deep into the night, franticly trying to reinforce the (pseudo) intellectual image he's worked so hard to build up over the years

My mission accomplished, to show you up on this thread as the contradictory hypocrite you are, amusing as it was watching you massage your own ego, singing your own praises and constantly telling yourself just how great YOU think YOU are

The saddest thing is it's quite apparent that THIS is you life......THIS.

I really feel for you acquiesce old buddy and I can see why you're angry, crossing the Med in that dinghy must have been harrowing for you and it takes a strong man to do it. I suppose they have dumped you in some grotty bedsit until your application gets processed, still chin up it must be better than back home. You need a good woman so get out there on the pull but remember no means no over here. Drop in to chit-chat when you are feeling down you know you have many friends here who want to help.  nasiib wacan

gotta hand it to him if he is a rubber dinghy rapids......picked up the lingo better than some of the chavs who parade in hgih streets up and down the cuntry

I've already told you that you are now free to go acquiesce so such grandstanding is reminiscent of Scargill, battered and humiliated, marching the miners back behind the brass bands after they also got a good hiding. Your mission is certainly done if you were seeking to make yourself look a complete fool.

After you've licked your wounds I look forward to your next interjection in a few weeks. I'll give it you again. Call it my gift to the forum.

the 4,300 osbourne quote on toilet paper has been ripped to shreds - not worth the paper it was written on

there will be so much money over 15 years ( which we won't be giving to the eu )to spend in our economy far outweighs any likely attempts to damage us from outside

anyway - bmw mercedes etc are not going to stop selling their gear to us - I can just imagine herr merkel being bombarded by the boards of industry if she tries to get up to any tricks

Reading this forum you'd think an EU exit is a formality.

But it's a 1.3 shot to Remain in.

1.3 is a very good price for a near certainty.

wildmanfronborneo has an economic plan, unlike many of the Brexit side. It involves re-drawing he lines of international waters and gun-boats, and this is the platform..

acq12 - re-read your posts, stop repeating yourself.

You will find that sound advise, act on it.

Advice