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Racingqueen
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What an outstanding documentary on the Easter rising. It says alot that he wipes the floor with current day professional TV presenters.

His train journeys around Britain were outstanding tv
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Report curious-cat March 31, 2016 10:00 PM BST
gay as a bux of frogs
Report Makybe_Diva March 31, 2016 10:01 PM BST
Love his train journeys Love
Report smartie3 March 31, 2016 10:05 PM BST
whenever I feel a bit sad hearing him has a remarkably soothing effect.
Report curious-cat March 31, 2016 10:05 PM BST
do you love his jackets and his gay 'past' ?
Report smartie3 March 31, 2016 10:10 PM BST
I do like the jackets
Report Makybe_Diva March 31, 2016 10:12 PM BST
I like his jackets, too.
Report Racingqueen March 31, 2016 10:13 PM BST
who doesn't love jackets Happy

His continental train journey was superb
Report brendanuk1 March 31, 2016 10:17 PM BST

Mar 31, 2016 -- 10:05PM, curious-cat wrote:


do you love his jackets and his gay 'past' ?


does he have a gay 'future'

Report Makybe_Diva March 31, 2016 10:18 PM BST
My favourite train journey was where he visited Cordoba and met the Andalusian horses Love
Report Makybe_Diva March 31, 2016 10:20 PM BST
His recent series in America was excellent
Report smartie3 March 31, 2016 10:22 PM BST
I find the UK ones better. I always like it when he meets a local dignitary and introduces himself, as if the person doesn't know who he is. That's modest.
Report Makybe_Diva March 31, 2016 10:23 PM BST
Hope he is making another series soon.
Report smartie3 March 31, 2016 10:24 PM BST
did a good documentary on Hitler, Amin and Henry VIII, too
Report Capt__F March 31, 2016 10:26 PM BST
at least Portillo realises he fed with the silver spoon
Report EvgenyKissin March 31, 2016 10:32 PM BST
I think it was you, Makybe Diva, who once remarked that it was surprising Michael Portillo had not been awarded a peerage.
Report stickyvicky March 31, 2016 10:42 PM BST
^^^ Cuz he's Spanish innit.
Portillo was registered as a Spanish citizen at the age of 4, and, in accordance with Spanish naming customs, his Spanish passport names him as Miguel Portillo Blyth.
Report curious-cat March 31, 2016 10:44 PM BST
I find the UK ones better. I always like it when he meets a local dignitary and introduces himself, as if the person doesn't know who he is. That's modest.

and does he bump into these local dignitaries by accident as if it hadn't been pre-arranged ?
Report EvgenyKissin March 31, 2016 10:51 PM BST
SV,
Report EvgenyKissin March 31, 2016 10:52 PM BST
He's a British citizen too though and was a former Defence Secretary.
Report EvgenyKissin March 31, 2016 10:53 PM BST
Don't think he is a member of the Conservative party any more.
Report Eeternaloptimist March 31, 2016 11:01 PM BST
curious seems very interested in his sexuality. I wonder if he's secretly hoping one of us asks if he's been friendly with Mr Portillo. I have a feeling nobody much cares about his sexuality. Portillo or curious.
Report Emden March 31, 2016 11:07 PM BST
I presumed curious was gay because of of all the gay references he keeps making. Is he not?
Report curious-cat March 31, 2016 11:13 PM BST
from The Independent
Saturday 11 September 1999|



Last month Michael Portillo and his wife, Carolyn, flew on holiday to Peru. They climbed through the undergrowth on the mountain leading up to the secret ancient city of Machu Picchu. And as they walked around the ruined temples and houses, successfully hidden by the Incas from the former defence secretary's Spanish ancestors, they were all too aware that the media conquistadores were about to invade their own secret world.

Last month Michael Portillo and his wife, Carolyn, flew on holiday to Peru. They climbed through the undergrowth on the mountain leading up to the secret ancient city of Machu Picchu. And as they walked around the ruined temples and houses, successfully hidden by the Incas from the former defence secretary's Spanish ancestors, they were all too aware that the media conquistadores were about to invade their own secret world.

At the end of July, shortly before flying out to Lima, Portillo had given an interview to the Times in which he talked about his "homosexual experiences" as a young man. Friends say he had expected the newspaper to publish his admission straight away. Instead the editor, Peter Stothard, insisted on holding it until September when it would make more of an impact in the run-up to the political conference season. Inevitably, the Peruvian holiday was dominated by fears about what the reaction would be, among the public but also in the Tory party.

Portillo had decided some months earlier that he should "come clean" about his gay past before returning to public life. As he walked on a pilgrimage across Spain, he came to the conclusion that the best way to end once and for all rumours that he had had an affair with his cabinet colleague Peter Lilley was to reveal the true extent of his homosexual experiences. When he returned to London, he discussed the implications of going public with his wife and his loyal adviser Alison Broom over white wine and anchovies in the Portillos' local tapas bar, Goya. The two women told him they thought the public was now so accepting of homosexuality that it would not damage his political career.

All his family and close friends - and some not so close - knew what had happened and accepted it. The only potential problem was that the revelation would be less acceptable to old-fashioned Tories.

The former minister was ready to take this gamble - especially in Kensington and Chelsea, a constituency association packed with as many thrusting young metropolitan things as blue rinses. Before the general election, he played almost exclusively to the Conservative gallery - his speech comparing the party to the SAS and calling on the Government to "stop the rot" in Brussels was designed to endear him to the Tory grassroots, not the ordinary voter. But since his startling defeat in his Enfield, Southgate constituency in the May 1997 general election, when he realised that the people who elected him mattered as much as the politicians who could make him their leader, Portillo has concentrated on getting "back in touch" with the punters. He took a job as a hospital porter to investigate the problems of the NHS, visited single mothers on council estates, and listened to focus groups. Last week's admission was just as much a part of the public rehabilitation process. Labour spin doctors are already at work highlighting Portillo's extremism because they fear that his confession will soften his cold-hearted image.

It was crucial to Portillo that the declaration be made in the right context. There are rumours that the tabloids have got compromising photographs, or have tracked down former lovers - although the aspiring MP's friends insist that this gossip is not true. It is probably no coincidence, however, that the revelation was made to the Times, a newspaper whose editor is both a political and personal friend, and whose comment editor, Michael Gove, wrote a glowing biography calling Portillo the future of the Tory right.

The interview itself was conducted by Ginny Dougary, a feature writer, and when it actually happened the politician was clearly ill at ease discussing his sexuality - on several occasions he asked the journalist to switch her tape-recorder off as he tried to work out what to say. There were close negotiations about the way in which the "scoop" would be presented - Stothard agreed not to use the "gay" story in the headline, although the paper did slip it into the smaller strapline at the top of the front- page article. The contents of the interview were such a closely guarded secret in the Times's Wapping headquarters that the story was not discussed at the daily morning conference, and the political editor who wrote it up for the front page was not told about it until lunchtime. Portillo did not discuss his admission with William Hague in advance of publication, although Conservative Central Office did find out about the Times story independently at about 5pm, as it was going to press. The Tory leader phoned his "close colleague" the next day, once the news had broken, to assure him of the party's support in both the selection process and the by-election.

Conservatives on both the left and the right of the party agree that Portillo will "walk" into the position of Tory candidate for Kensington and Chelsea - its association members like the idea of having a high-profile representative. Other potential candidates including Sir Malcolm Rifkind and Sebastian Coe have also agreed to give him a free run. Once selected, it would be virtually impossible for him to lose one of the safest Tory seats in the country at a by-election, giving him just over a year to serve his time in the Commons before the next general election. Hague's close aides insist he is genuinely happy about the return of such a prominent potential rival to Westminster - "It's good for William if the party does well at the election and he thinks Michael Portillo will help it do well," one said.

But privately, the Hagueites know that if Michael Portillo does get back, Tory politics will be dominated from then on by speculation about a leadership challenge. The former defence secretary is also acutely aware that this could be his downfall - at a recent meeting of the Burke Club, the dining society for Tory grandees, he threatened to walk out when the conversation turned to the party leadership because he did not want to be seen as being disloyal to Hague. Portillo has carefully distanced himself from the Tory leader in recent months - there was his suggestion that the party was unwise to rely so heavily on its treasurer-in-exile, Michael Ashcroft, his comment that Hague had image problems, and most memorably the television documentary in which a Byronic Portillo interviewed an anorak-clad weed on the Yorkshire moors. But once he gets into Parliament, Portillo knows he must do everything he can in public to prove his loyalty until the next general election because he knows the party does not like to elect traitors to lead it.

After the election, however, it will be a different matter altogether. Shortly before 1 May 1997, the then defence secretary sat down with his closest advisers to write his manifesto for the leadership of the Conservative Party. Those present included two Central Office policy wonks, Andrew Cooper and Michael Simmonds - both of whom have since been eased out by Hague, an indication that he still fears the power of the Portillistas. Like Tony Blair hand-writing his "contract with the nation", Portillo began to put on paper his definition of "new Toryism". It would be a philosophy that emphasised its caring qualities as much as its hard-headed free market instincts, that represented ordinary people rather than an elite. The politician has been developing these ideas ever since - arguably, his supporters say, he could explore them better outside Westminster than within the constraints of party loyalty. Friends claim Portillo was painted unfairly into a corner as an extreme right-winger - although it was an image he deliberately stoked because he thought that was what the party wanted in a leader.

Since his election downfall he has emphasised his caring side, replacing military briefing papers with Alain de Botton's novels about love, and travelling on the number 73 bus rather than by ministerial car. He has also begun sending out different political signals. At the 1997 Tory conference he "came out" as a "compassionate Conservative" who urged the party to tolerate lone parents and gays. Since then, he has called for increased investment in hospitals and for better treatment of doctors. At this year's conference he will promote the cause of teachers with a high-profile speech on education. This shift is making Portillo some unlikely friends - he got on so well with Peter Mandelson when he interviewed him for television that he invited him for dinner at his Pimlico home. More importantly for his political career, he has managed to persuade those on the left of the Tory party that he is not extreme. Shaun Woodward MP, who supported Kenneth Clarke for the leadership, describes Portillo as "mainstream, a centre-right Conservative rather than a right-wing Conservative".

Some of those MPs who would have crossed the committee corridor to avoid the former minister in the last Parliament are now privately discussing lending him their support in a future leadership contest. "There are quite a lot on our wing of the party who are saying he's softened and we should give him a chance," one Conservative left-winger said. "It's strange but he's managing to position himself as the unity candidate." There is just one subject on which this cannot be true - Europe. Portillo privately goes further than the Hague line and argues that the single currency should be ruled out on principle; some friends say he even buys the Thatcher argument that Britain should renegotiate its relationship with Brussels or pull out. The Tory left would never accept such a position. But it seems likely that softening his attitude to "rotten" Brussels would be a softening too far.
Report Eeternaloptimist March 31, 2016 11:19 PM BST
Totally obsessed. I could be well wide of the mark here but he strikes me as the type of luvvie type who beseeches us to be more tolerant of homosexuals when nobody much cares either way and then stands shrieking and pointing at someone who is gay if they disapprove of them.

A most curious cat.
Report curious-cat March 31, 2016 11:26 PM BST
I think you are obsessed Grin
Report Steamship March 31, 2016 11:50 PM BST
I remember how disliked he was as a politician and yet comes across as a really decent man. I watched that documentary where he stayed in a council flat. I never miss This Week and have watched many of his train series.

I wonder if we missed out on a good PM?
Report Eeternaloptimist April 1, 2016 12:01 AM BST
It's the usual characterisation from the left, of Tories are rotters and Labour are good eggs. Many good Tories go unnoticed as do many con men amongst the Labour party. Portillo always seemed to stick to his principles which was what saw him labelled as a baastard by Major when he was a eurosceptic at the time. Now everybody but the complete lunatics like Mandelson have reservations about the EU.
Report Makybe_Diva April 1, 2016 7:27 AM BST
Don't think it was me that said that. Evgeny.

I also watched the programme where he stayed in a council flat.

He comes across as a thoroughly decent human being.

I agree with Steamship. I think Michael Portillo would have made a good PM.
Report lfc1971 April 1, 2016 8:39 AM BST
I don`t think he still lives in a council flat.
Report lfc1971 April 1, 2016 8:54 AM BST
Its easy to wear a nice jacket, but does it mean you may have been a great pm?
People who live in council houses wear tattered clothes, their hands freeze and they have dirty faces that are not beautiful.
Report brendanuk1 April 1, 2016 9:27 AM BST
Nice bloke, well educated but also comes across as rather thick and out of touch with real life, pleasant manners but not practical at all. His living as single mum program showed he never really done any work in his life or worried about cost of anything. Never cooked or cleaned, found working in asda physically demanding. Confused

Keep him on the train being nice to local people and away from any decision making
Report twonky April 1, 2016 10:23 AM BST
The Coleman experience is not too fond of him
Report A_T April 1, 2016 10:40 AM BST
a foaming-at-the-mouth thatcherite when in government - gave an incredibly gracious speech when losing his seat at the first Blair election win - seems to have mellowed a lot over the years
Report treetop April 1, 2016 12:26 PM BST
Keep him on the train being nice to local people and away from any decision making

Whilst we leave Cameroon,Ozzie,Jezza and Flabbot in charge,eh ?
Report Facts April 1, 2016 12:55 PM BST
^ who 's in charge of the country ?
Report Dr Crippen April 1, 2016 2:38 PM BST
^ Angela Merkel and the EU last time I looked.
Report acc April 1, 2016 7:25 PM BST
on bb2 now
Report Eeternaloptimist April 1, 2016 8:14 PM BST
brendan wants to bring Two Jags back because he once had a real job. Laugh
Report EvgenyKissin April 1, 2016 9:02 PM BST
My apologies, Makybe Diva. I thought you were involving in a heated debate which saw you express your displeasure at Michael Portillo, Ann Widdecombe and Edwina Currie not being elevated to the upper house.
Report Facts April 1, 2016 10:12 PM BST
The programme about the Easter Uprising in Dublin in 1916 was very informative.
Report Roger The Butler April 1, 2016 10:39 PM BST
Concur with all comments on the train journeys series. Excellent programmes, both the UK and the continental ones. They could have been very average with a poor presenter, but he pitches it perfectly for them.
Report Kit-Kat-Dan April 2, 2016 9:48 AM BST
Takes one to know one twonky.
Report Makybe_Diva April 2, 2016 10:50 AM BST
"My apologies, Makybe Diva. I thought you were involving in a heated debate which saw you express your displeasure at Michael Portillo, Ann Widdecombe and Edwina Currie not being elevated to the upper house."

That's ok! Evgeny Happy

It definitely wasn't me. I don't get involved in heated political debates.
Report Makybe_Diva April 2, 2016 10:51 AM BST
Unintentional exclamation mark there.
Report Dr Crippen April 2, 2016 10:54 AM BST
I don't get involved in heated political debates.

Neither do I.
Report Dr Crippen April 2, 2016 10:55 AM BST
Now what's all this tripe about Portillo?
Report brendanuk1 April 2, 2016 12:56 PM BST
just saw the rising programme. Did Portillo really think sending soldiers into battle to 'take no prisoners' was somehow ambiguous or some sort o British slip of tongue . I cant imagine a use of words that is more succinct in their meaning. Confused
Report Eeternaloptimist April 2, 2016 1:36 PM BST
It ust have been because they did take prisoners.
Report brendanuk1 April 2, 2016 2:10 PM BST

Apr 2, 2016 -- 1:36PM, Eeternaloptimist wrote:


It ust have been because they did take prisoners.


no must about it, faced with shooting unarmed innocent civillians i would think i good portion of soldiers would refuse, even if orders from british were to shoot them or 'take no prisoners'. perfectly valid scenario whitewashed by potillo and dunnet, i wonder why Confused

Report john92 April 2, 2016 2:16 PM BST
I thought this programme was far better

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b075vnht
Report brendanuk1 April 2, 2016 3:40 PM BST
yes that one is much more in depth and interesting
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