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By:
Dr Crippen
When: 02 Mar 16 16:00
Having a couple of quid on the horses doesn't do any harm.

I have a bet myself sometimes.
By:
casemoney
When: 02 Mar 16 16:33
Paddy Pishy Wont lay a Bet
By:
blackestnight
When: 02 Mar 16 16:47
When I read the story every ad on the page was for PP. Lol.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 02 Mar 16 17:08
bet responibly? yeah right. put the gun down frank.... think of your kids.

have you been in a bookies.... desperation in the air.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 03 Mar 16 11:14
A fool and their money are soon parted.
Drunks, druggies, and gamblers are all of an ilk.
They've all got a built in self-destruct mechanism.
By:
stewarty b
When: 03 Mar 16 12:42
Better collecing rent Dr C.Wink
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 03 Mar 16 13:44
I went into a WHILLS a couple of weeks ago for some ante post prices. There was a youth in there playing roulette on a slot machine, the roulette had 100 numbers!! WTF? he couldn't get his notes in fast enough. Why not go to a real casino and make an evening of it with entertainment and dinner?
By:
Money Tree cost me thousands!!
When: 03 Mar 16 13:52
Strippers and a KFC. No thanks burton.
By:
ebulGery
When: 03 Mar 16 15:31
PP don't encourage meSad

They banned me...I was only having £4 bets
By:
ebulGery
When: 03 Mar 16 15:39
The problem here is Bookmakers rely on punters losing to make a living

They don't make money from winning punters

I think it goes against the grain for them to discourage losers......

but they discourage winners, too much in my opinion

I had bigger winning bets with PP, but when they banned me I was only betting £4 a time..pathetic
By:
akabula
When: 03 Mar 16 15:45
Bookmakers are supposed to respond to problem gambling.
The 'senior manager' who ignored the concerns should be sacked.
By:
kincsem
When: 03 Mar 16 17:57
Google these …
Tony O’Reilly Gorey Post Office
Paul O’Brien Finglas Credit Union
Mark Cooney Halifax & LLoyds

Bad gamblers.  Worked with money.  Bookmakers fail to question source of funds.
There are probably many more.
By:
ebulGery
When: 03 Mar 16 20:29
I think one problem here is the amount of gambling advertising we allow now. It did not used to be allowed but is continually in peoples faces

now.

I know a problem gambler. He self excludes, but if he asks for his accounts to be reopened that is done without question??????

Also while he is still limited on his sports bets like all customers now, they continue to encourage him to use the on line casino and games

which is his weakness.

Like an alcoholic it is nearly impossible to stop an addicted gambler once they are in the throes of an addiction.

One could blame the Betting Shop manager but they are also under pressure to encourage people to use the FOBTs.

Try placing large bets on Greyhound BAGS racing and see how far you get??????????????
By:
GAZO
When: 03 Mar 16 20:55
the newspapers and tv profit from the gambling advertising so they will not be investigated by either
By:
kincsem
When: 09 Mar 16 18:26
On the RTE1 TV six o'clock news.
The Gardai raided premises and lockups of crime gangs in Dublin.
High-powered cars, motorbikes, off-road vehicles seized ...
... and a Paddy Power betting slip €38,000 on tomorrow's Liverpool V Manchester United game.
By:
TheBaron
When: 09 Mar 16 19:07
A bloke on the radio said he self excluded.  When the exclusion period was up the bookie emailed him offering a "welcome back" free bet!
By:
donny osmond
When: 10 Mar 16 10:51
bookmakers seem to want to move away from cash betting as a way round
these issues,.. except of course they want to move away from cash betting
so they can keep tabs on their customers and ban anyone who has a brain
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 10 Mar 16 11:21
Should bookies be responsible for someone who loses their money with them betting?

Should the Stock Exchange be responsible for investors doing the same only on a much larger scale?

Fortunes are lost starting up businesses and expanding businesses too quickly. Who should be held to account for that?

You marry a woman who turns out to be a lemon and takes you to the cleaners financially. Where's the protection from that happening?

Considering how money is splashed around and changes hands purely on fortune, makes you wonder why the spotlight should fall on the way that bookies operate?
By:
dustybin
When: 10 Mar 16 11:32
It doesn't.
It's called regulation and if big business continually gets pandered to then there would be non.
Sharp practise exists because humans exist and they are greedy, they are told by our government that opportunism is virtuous and that enterprise equates to salvation.
But the reality is totally different. People continually find ever more conceited and deceitful means to lower the bar of what is acceptable.
Whether it's bank accounts, insurance companies, energy opaqueness or telecommunications tactics they all opporate to a similar blueprint now which is that they will try any and all means to take all they can wishing the law, but will test that law continually in 'competition' with each other.
Bookies need regulating on the actions they take to pay shareholders who are holders of capital that seek payment for simply owning it.
It's a vile world.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 10 Mar 16 11:52
dustybin


It doesn't.
It's called regulation


Well it can't be both, it either does or it doesn't regardless of what you call.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 10 Mar 16 11:55
actions they take to pay shareholders who are holders of capital that seek payment for simply owning it.
It's a vile world.


That's called capitalism and it's what funds the welfare state we all enjoy.
By:
TheBaron
When: 10 Mar 16 12:03
That's called capitalism and it's what funds the welfare state we all enjoy.

Especially slum landlords like you getting all those lovely housing benefit paymentsLaugh
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 10 Mar 16 12:12
What about the tenants like you who claim LHA and live off the state?

It all comes out of the same pot that people like me pay taxes into.
A pot that has to provide for people like you who contribute nothing to society apart from taking up space.
By:
dave1357
When: 10 Mar 16 12:20
Crippen - the bookie in question ignored blatant money laundering.  A bank would have been fined millions.  The least that the UKGC should have done was to mandate that those responsible were not fit and proper to work in the industry.
By:
dustybin
When: 10 Mar 16 12:25
I was answering your rhetorical question with regard 'why the spotlight is cast on bookies'
I was saying it isn't a selective issue, it's regulation in action of all sectors, and that there is an ever increasing need for such action as a direct result of opportunism.

It's correct that these are attributes of the capitalist world. But simply suggesting that these are the parts that power the virtues of say the welfare state mechanism or the NHS is erroneous because the simple reality is that these get funded after profits have striped the value out of everything first.
Like the assertions of 'captain of industry' or 'crumbs from the table' these are euphemisms at best and lies at worse.
They are the vernacular of those with vested interests for the status quo to continue....while driving it's not them that are the ones sacrificed.
By:
dustybin
When: 10 Mar 16 12:30
From a personal view on the issue of bookies' actions being under scrutiny then I believe they absolutely have to be even more so than many other sectors, not simply because of the direct issues of crime related to them but because as a product that they 'sell' is completely ethereal and degenerate in nature.
Other than horse racing that could be argued to have been invented as a vehicle for the opporate game of gaming then all the other sports would happily exist without the bookmakers speculating on nothing of substance.
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