CH 4 News ISIS Analysis

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Gave a history of the growth of ISIS but interspersed it with Jihadi music and recent video content of ISIS propaganda.

See at CH4+1  on soon

Perhaps they could get Comical Ali out of retirement to do the adverts?

Perhaps they could explain how their fked ideology has, far from rallying Muslims to their worthless cause, resulted in the biggest exodus since the second world war of Muslims running straight into the welcoming arms of the degenerate  Western kuffir?

I can't imagine that they would care one jot about the hardship or death caused by their actions. In fact, that would encourage them.

Newsnight now doing  historical Sunni/Shia divide

Well to finish ISIS we need troops on the ground, if we cannot do it, let Russia do it

As Roger said one million Muslim refugees entered Europe last year because of this on going civil war in Syria

My advice is we need to end it, but I don't think we really want to defeat ISIS myself, despite all the rhetoric

The lefty media have always swooned about ISIS's 'media strategy' and their 'savvy' manner of grooming thick young people online, as if it's something to be admired.

I don't think they need much grooming myself, the causes are deeper than that

just my opinion

I wonder if the thousands of hours reciting the Koran as kids has something to do with it?

The problem I have with that that the Koran was written in circa 600AD!

Then why is it only very recently they feel he need to attack us!

Also what surprises is how well the anti Muslim posters seem to know the Koran??????????????

It is the last thing I would ever read, I consider something written in 600AD of little relevance today??????

I suppose a religious Muslim could believe in some of it's values, as some religious Christians believe

in some of the values from the Bible.

I consider modern Western values very poor.

Then why is it only very recently they feel he need to attack us!

erm , they started attacking in 632 AD !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_the_Levant

erm , they started attacking in 632 AD !

Read your History, in 632 AD we were being attacked by the Vikings...remember

Murder, rape & pillage all in a days work for a Vikings

Perhaps we should be living of the Scandinavians or people from Denmark?

in fear

Apparently Sweden is changing colour with all its immigration from Somalia and Eritrea,perhaps the vikings may be returning here pretty soon !

you don't them here!!!  you ought to find out what they do the THEIR  slaves - I think daesh learnt it from them!!!!

a viking burial could involve the strangling of a slave as a sacrifice to the gods

but not before all the men had been through her

go on, tell me I am scaremongering about this viking invasion!!!!!

you dont want them here!!!

Incredibly interesting program on BBC4 tonight, The Crusades

Here Christians were offered a chance to redeem their sins by fighting for God, retake Jerusalem.

So it is not only Muslims who kill for their faith.


It is amazing they even reached Jerusalem, they were continually attacked, faced starvation, desperate privation from hot and cold,

they even tried to negotiate a truce enabling them to give up and come back at Antioch, most of them died on the way.

But they did reach Jerusalem and took it. This was immediately followed by two days non stop slaughter of Muslims and Jews,

as they unleashed all their pent up anger. But for the Crusaders they believed they were now  redeemed because they had killed

for our Lord.

Believe me it is not only Muslims believe this

Read your History, in 632 AD we were being attacked by the Vikings

You need to read some history if you think Vikings were here in 632

893AD so apologies

The point I was trying to make is there was no Muslim attacks on us in either 632 or 893 ok

The Muslims were very much the same as us at the time people fought  their country and for their faith, in fact we still do.


The Crusades are a very good example of this. Both the Knights and the poorer people went out to the Holy Lad believing they fought

for Christ they were not bad man. Neither is a Muslim who believes in his faith either, do you not see?

But not all Crusaders were good , not all modern Muslims are good, but in the main they are just ordinary human beings.

793!

How were Muslims able to attack 'us' (presume you mean Britain) in 632 , they were thousands of miles away.

They attacked the nearest Christians they could find and carried on doing that for a hundred years til they were just outside Paris ,where they were finally defeated.

Every attacked everybody then...how do you think empires were created, we did a bit ourselves

The Crusades suggest we attacked them, in fact we did, and more recently attacked them starting at the First Gulf War

If they don't like us, can you blame them?, if I was them, I would not

The Moors I think only got as far as Spain and Portugal?

The Ottoman Empire did attempt an invasion of Europe, reaching Vienna was their high water mark

The were actually allies with France for a while against the Habsburg(Austrian) empire.

As for reaching Paris you will have to point it out to me, and correct me, like you usually do

ps
We defended the Ottoman Empire ourselves against Russia, the Crimean War

It was in decline a long time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours

Tours is 148 miles from Paris . Bit further than i thought tbh , but still that was the last decent army the Christians had to stop them with in Western Europe.

You are right again...indeed they tried...

Although at that the time everybody tried to build an empire did they not?

They do not attack us now apart from terrorist attacks done in retaliation for our attacks on their societies in the Middle East and Afghanistan. All the Muslims in Europe now are either economic migrants or refugees, hardly the same.

After the fall of the Roman Empire, Europe itself entered the Dark Ages there were different peoples making claims to land everywhere
Muslim societies were in far a better state than us at the time. They were guardians of our knowledge for a while.

It took a while for the basis of modern Europe to form, we ourselves changed form Celtic to Anglo(from Denmark) Saxon(from Germany).

All the Muslims in Europe now are either economic migrants or refugees, hardly the same.

So no covert Daesh operatives?

That's okay then.......

they are trying to frighten us (the media) skyislam's report was full of tosh
those missiles can't be used even if they have the correct batteries etc

pure sensationalist journalism and the intelligence services already knew about it

thats how skyislam 'DISCOVERED' the university of bomb making etc

the above stuff from gerry is fkn irrelevant

just trying to help out  - we have our own jihad poison in our own country

lets start thinking about that instead of wandering into the history books

lets start thinking about that instead of wandering into the history books

that's rich coming from you Mobo considering you put everything down to a holy book written in circa 600AD!

I know the cause of our present troubles
ISRAEL SHOULD NOT EXIST

The amount of human suffering and death caused by creating Israel is incredible.
I have to regard it as a great evil. One cannot just give away half of somebody's country to somebody else.

I cannot altogether blame the Jews for wanting their own country. But they had been far to long away to ever go back.

I find the West more guilty  in what they have done in support Israel. To attack Muddle Eastern countries and overthrow strong Arab
leaders just to protect it, is too much.

The West is at fault here not the Arabs or Muslims if you want to refer to them that way.

I have no solution to our present position

ps
You know Israel support ISIS!..they buy their Oil

all I say is that they follow the book religiously hahahaha  nothing to do with rubbish you put up to deflect and obfuscate about what is to happen as they follow their deadly book

"Their deadly book"  You make it sound like Odd-Job and his deadly bowler hat!!  Whoosh! ya bugger...and there he is, deadly book stuck in neck.

I bet they don't mention that muslims make up 70 percent of the prison population in France.

as they follow their deadly book

I say this about you Mobo you do not give up

If you want to get a flavour see the muslim woman on sky trying to justify the paris attacks.

I think she lives here but is an algerian french muslim.