A Saudi millionaire has been cleared of raping a teenager after claiming he might have accidentally penetrated the 18-year-old when he tripped and fell.
With the justice system you can have a completely ridiculous defence, but if the prosecution aren't deemed to have provided sufficient evidence to convict, then the defendant will get off.
With the justice system you can have a completely ridiculous defence, but if the prosecution aren't deemed to have provided sufficient evidence to convict, then the defendant will get off.
We don't have all the evidence. Her friend was in the bedroom, did she not scream or call out? If not why not? Was she hoping for some reward or was she afraid for her life? We just don't know. Ridiculous defence story but what evidence was given in private?
We don't have all the evidence. Her friend was in the bedroom, did she not scream or call out? If not why not? Was she hoping for some reward or was she afraid for her life? We just don't know. Ridiculous defence story but what evidence was given in
That's true tobermory but the newspapers only like to report the bits that they can make into a salacious story, often relying on partial quotations and innuendo.
There will be far more to the story than: Girl: "I was raped" Accused: "No, I fell over and me kn0b accidentally slipped up her shufty."
That's true tobermory but the newspapers only like to report the bits that they can make into a salacious story, often relying on partial quotations and innuendo.There will be far more to the story than:Girl: "I was raped"Accused: "No, I fell over an
I see this is a reference to yet another report given by Mail online. Having now checked that report I see it was said that the press were excluded when that evidence was given.
Sorry guys, I read the bit about evidence given in private in this report of the casehttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/millionaire-ehsan-abdulaziz-who-said-he-accidentally-tripped-and-penetrated-teen-is-cleared-of-rape-a6774946.htmlI see thi
Only just read this. The contents of the article don't seem to match the headline do they? Anyway jury seemed to believe whatever evidence was put in front of them.
Only just read this. The contents of the article don't seem to match the headline do they? Anyway jury seemed to believe whatever evidence was put in front of them.
Remind me of the United Kingdom, where lefties are trying their best to ruin the country.
What examples are we setting to the younger generations growing up in the UK? Seems like it's 1 set of rules for muslim scum & one set for the law abiding citizens of the UK...so is it ok to rape now? as long as your in europe!
Watched a vid earlier where you had a muslim preacher laughing & bragging about that's how it works they go to work & pay taxes to pay us our benefits
Remind me of the United Kingdom, where lefties are trying their bestto ruin the country.What examples are we setting to the younger generationsgrowing up in the UK? Seems like it's 1 set of rules for muslim scum & one set for the law abidingcitizens
Ron - you're the one offering the opinions, but just to help you and Ib.S as well, there seems to be significant discrepancies in the reporting of this case. But, the key bit for me is that it took the jury only 30 minutes to reach their verdict. I do not have access to all the evidence presented, but they did, and presumably do not. Hth
Ron - you're the one offering the opinions, but just to help you and Ib.S as well, there seems to be significant discrepancies in the reporting of this case. But, the key bit for me is that it took the jury only 30 minutes to reach their verdict. I
so if it was that clear cut why would 160k sign a petition in such a short time,
perhaps you should start one in favour of the decision if you feel that strongly against the alleged rape?
so if it was that clear cut why would 160k sign a petition in such a short time,perhaps you should start one in favour of the decision if you feelthat strongly against the alleged rape?
Ron - Oh dear, logic doesn't seem your strong point does it.
The way the petition post is worded seems persuasive, except that you don't seem to be given all the facts of the case, nor are given the key fact that a properly constituted jury, presumably in possession of all the "facts" found the defendant not guilty in just 30 minutes.
Re your last point, which frankly makes little sense, but for the avoidance of doubt I am violently opposed to rape.
Ron - Oh dear, logic doesn't seem your strong point does it. The way the petition post is worded seems persuasive, except that you don't seem to be given all the facts of the case, nor are given the key fact that a properly constituted jury, presumab
Blimey, you really are as dim as I thought you might be.
Your post "perhaps you should start one in favour of the decision if you feel that strongly against the alleged rape?"
Yep, on balance and without hearing the evidence, I am happy to rely on the jury's decision, and I do feel strongly against rape.
Blimey, you really are as dim as I thought you might be. Your post "perhaps you should start one in favour of the decision if you feel that strongly against the alleged rape?" Yep, on balance and without hearing the evidence, I am happy to rely on t
Apologies, my 22.55 post was typed before your 22.50 post. This is a good debate, you shouldn't dip out just because your can't keep up. You've lots of valuable opinions.
Anyway this is Zazu's thread isn't it?
Apologies, my 22.55 post was typed before your 22.50 post. This is a good debate, you shouldn't dip out just because your can't keep up. You've lots of valuable opinions. Anyway this is Zazu's thread isn't it?
Not sure - this happened a while ago - read about it before xmas somewhere - could have been a couple of ****s or gold diggers, sounds like he shagged one of them first and then tried to shag her mate and tripped over his **** as it swung between his legs dragging along the shagpile.
The excuse is pathetic and I can't believe any lawyer put that forward as a defence which is why I think palms were greased. It's all a bit dodgy.
I reckon what really happened is they went back for a threesome, one pretended to fall asleep pissed after she saw his huge wanger and didn't fancy that up her chutney locker so played dead, he shagged the first one and then tried to shag the one playing dead, - pretending to be asleep is not going to put of people who shag goats and dead people for fun.
Would like to have seen a picture of the two birds to stereotype them more accurately.
Not sure - this happened a while ago - read about it before xmas somewhere - could have been a couple of ****s or gold diggers, sounds like he shagged one of them first and then tried to shag her mate and tripped over his **** as it swung between his
Afterthought - all good stuff. but where and what are your facts relative to this case. Where is your argument as to why the jury in this case took 30 mins to deliberaate and find the defendant not guilty
Afterthought - all good stuff. but where and what are your facts relative to this case. Where is your argument as to why the jury in this case took 30 mins to deliberaate and find the defendant not guilty
I think he re-enacted the incodent with the clerk of the court to prove his point! Case dismissed yer honour !Since that court case he has been seen again.https://www.facebook.com/458698164152194/videos/1013510752004263/