You ain't no Muslim, bruv!

How about just not importing anymore of them.
How about deporting a large swathe of them.
Funny thing about these gentlemen is they can't wait to mosey from Muslim countries to non Muslim countries but when they get there want to turn their new countries into Muslim ones.

A bit like Christians really.

ex pats for short

No nothing like Christians.

Christian religions believe in conversion,the religion of peace believes in conquest and have the decency to constantly remind us but our European elite just don't want to believe them.

Try telling that to the Native Americans.

We lived in Tehran in the late '70s and local shopkeepers brought Christmas trees in for the ex-pats.  All very straightforward and civilised.

Christ, their god even laid on some snow so we could have a white christmas ... but it didn't come until early January!
Still, a damn fine effort in my opinion by somebody's god.

Fine mussies over there at the time ... a little bit mad (self flagellation, sheep killing in city centre, etc) ... but many joined in with the fun - drinking, smoking, ladies in very western dress.  What changed?

They couldn't control their borders so immigrants invaded and wiped them out,there is a lesson there.

Iran

The only slight problem being that the Jihadists are not heretics, in any reasonable sense they are the true Muslims acting in strict accordance with Islamic teaching. To talk of Islamic extremism is tautological. Islam is extreme. Period. Ill informed sympathisers can misquote Surah 5:32 (relates specifically to the Jews) until their a**ses turn blue and it won't change that. Clearly the majority of Muslims are decent and peaceful people but the fact that they are is in spite of and not because of the teachings of the Quran and hadith which are (on the whole) the teachings of abject barbarity and filth.

if you fart in the mosque you have to go out an wash again.

I wish the media would explain to population what Islam actually teaches.

exactly, the establishment religions wont attack islam for being silly as it opens them up to same accusation.

Wearing dresses and performing strange rituals, being authority about what is "right" and "wrong" by studying obscure texts written in strange language

OMG Cameron just used the quote

I always laugh when people come on and quote the bible which is largely irrelevant to most of us then you compare it to the qur'an.
You have to realise that to a good muslim it is the law. It is not a religion but more a political movement.

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So you don't think Christians are guided by The Bible mobo ?
How odd.

No it is people like you who try to make comparisons between the two books

to muslims what the qur'an says is the law - they are follower first, second and last above the laws of a country if neccessary.

that is the difference

whereas most people who live in most so called christian countries do not regard it as law and in fact rarely even consult the book

the bible (in its way) lays down original pagan beliefs of how a society can conduct itself without chaos ie muder, coveting, stealing etc

the rest of it (the god bit) is pure superstition

hope this helps

A lot like Christians:

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so the qur'an is law in Indonesia then, is it?  The world's biggest Muslim country.

The concepts of Jihad and martyrdom are central and specific to the Quran, this is the fundamental problem. There is no real equivalency in the Bible. Hence, as bonkers as much of the Bible is you don't have a seemingly inexhaustible supply of Christians willing to blow themselves up amongst fields of non-combatants.

Brendanuk1 ...

if you fart in the mosque you have to go out an wash again

what, everybody? ... if so you wouldn't be popular ... what with the smell an' all.  And what do you have to wash?

Perhaps you wouldn't admit it was you and just look accusingly at the next guy ... bit like school assembly

Perhaps in a literal sense but not as conventionally interpreted.  The ideology underpinning these bast@rds is a perverted, grotesque re-interetation.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEnWw_lH4tQ

Very silly comparing a religion that has progressed through the enlightenment and reformation with one that remains stubbornly unreformed.

Oz ... maybe you could remind me what the penalty for apostasy is in the majority of Muslim countries? Literally or conventionally ...

How many christians pray 5 times a day? And even to those who may do, what would happen if they didn't?

http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/notpray.html

guinness ...

I pray a lot, most days ... depends on if it's a close finish

Then it's a "thank you, god" or more usually "fook you, god ... why, why, why - why couldn't you, just this once?"

That would be tongue ripped out for a mussie (not that they gamble mind)

NO  - look!!   to a muslim - a good muslim - it is the law(the qur'an) above whatever country you live in. All hadiths and the book tell you exactly how to act in EVERY aspect of you life SPECIFICALLY.    Hope this helps.

Don't try to twist my words or interpret them making them something else.  Rather like the qur'an.

The comparisons between the bible and the Qur'an are ridiculous, and dragging up the 'Old testament' even more so, because quit simply who the fck apart from small sects such as the Brethern, actually knows what is contained in the Bible and practices it contents on a daily basis (5 times a day?) and uses it as an excuse to Smite non believers and wishes/practices death to non believers/apostates as well as all the other atrocities it expounds believers to practise, to women in particular.

I have never read either book, why the fck would I??. The Qur'an is simply a tool to control the idiots just as the Bible used to be, and extremists use their version/s for their own ends.

Talk about going off on a tangent, cop yourselves on you appeasers, corbynites, loony tuners ,false flaggists, et fckin cetra. I have a book about fishing (it was a pressie) I have never read it or fished in my life, I have stayed in many hotels around the world, but guess what I never got on my knees and prayed 5 fckin times a day because the twunts left a Gideon in the room. 

Thou shalt have no other God before me, (or similar)fcking hell, these fckin Gods have real insecurity issues!.

so this clown ozy comes on to blag on about indonesia - you see - you do not know what islam or being a muslim is all about

the good muslim is not concerned ULITMATELY about the law of a country - that is irrelevant - it is their god's law that they follow

hope you understand this.

The Independent newspaper names the 'suspect'

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/leytonstone-attack-suspect-muhaydin-mire-appears-in-court-on-attempted-murder-charge-a6763236.html


Are we absolutely sure that heaintnomuslimbruv ?

It is drummed into them at an early age - hope this helps.

alun you are just stirring. as with the yankee twosome -   Keep repeating the following

he is a nutter, she was a nutter, he was a nutter

he is a nutter, she was a nutter, he was a nutter

he is a nutter, she was a nutter, he was a nutter

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM

then retire with a beer and a cold towel wrapped around your head (oops)
you will feel much better

I had a 'Near death' experience many years ago and actually saw 'Heaven' I was only there for a few moments but long enough to ask one question of a guy floating by on a cloud, "what is that enormous wall for" I inquired, "that's for the Mussies" they think they're the only ones up here" he replied.

"you see how far the termites have spread..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axHR8AOxxkc

He's on an attempted murder charge. One rumour was that he was going to behead the victim...


If he aint a Muslim (bruv), then perhaps the good people of the media could ask the Muslim community what is a good example of a Muslim..

Start by asking about FGM, apostasy law, women riding bikes, Saudi beheadings etc..

George Orwell was referenced earlier on his thread.

Fair play, his Ministry of Truth would be proud of the efforts made so far by our supine media to peddle the line that the 'suspect' couldn't conceivably be a Mu$lim man.

A new low has been reached today. Our very own Prime Minister's office has absurdly re-Tweeted the 'youaintnomuslimbruv' nonsense.

Politicians just want the mussie votes.

We all know they are nutters but our politicos don't care about us, they just want the gravy train.

But they'll start to care when the far right get their act together.  There'll be fewer mussie votes to be had, then.

In 61 the French drowned dozens of the bastards. Perhaps they will start doing it again. Maybe the English will start doing it. It makes more sense than standing around filming somebody being attacked.

Mememe, I think you are right. Anything for votes.

alun2005, I thought 'hug a hoodie' was bad inviting the twunt Gallagher to number 10 was bad, but this is indeed a new low, when a PRIME minister, says he lacks the eloquence ("I could not have put it better myself" ) to discuss/remark on this atrocity against an innocent individual without borrowing mussie street speak, then we really are fcked.

Gallagher was another PRIME minister same garment different pattern.

The Gallagher humiliation was Blair.

What the fck do they teach them at Eton these days!!!

Yes already noted alun,^^^

Because all religions are based on bonkers fairy stories they legitamise each other.  So its very difficult for the follower of any religion to criticize Islam because their beliefs are just as bonkers but in a different way.

As a matter of fact I have read the Old Testament. I was off work ill for 3 months. Some of it is scary stuff and there ARE a minority of Christians who take it literally,which is why you have abortion clinic workers murdered. I haven't read the Koran and I imagine that is just as bad but most Muslims don't take it literally either. As for the bit about praying 5 times a day try going to a Christian monastery.

The level of denial within government and the media is excruciating.

So its very difficult for the follower of any religion to criticize Islam because, REALLY!! .....don't believe everything you think.

salmon spray, I'm amazed at your extra tenuous assertions, ffs, yes the proof that they don't take it literally is evident in the way that Sunnie and Shias and Christians get along so well.

Another stupid analogy.

Monastaries are for those who have taken a vow. EVERY practising mussie prays 5 times a day... Billions of em..

Yazidies will surely agree with you salmon.

salmon do you belong to the blame the White man" for slavery brigade as well. You're old enough to know better, get over yourself, ffs.

since the bible was written Christianity has evolved and modernised, Islam hasn't in 1400 years and has no intention of ever doing so.

Islam has no New Testament to balance the Koran.

In fact things get worse because of the Hadith.

Parts of the Old Testament like the Psalms, Proverbs, 10 commandements etc plus the teachings of the New testament have paved the way for:

Schools
Legal system
Hospitals
Hospices
Prison reform
Animal welfare
Myriads of charities

Why do you think Israel and the Western nations are so attractive to those outside of the Jewish/Christian tradition.

Islam has in fact regressed.

Well they still let women give birth. Albeit without a ****.

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I thought he was brilliant in 'Unforgiven' and Gran Torino.

I watched that Gran Torino last night. What a disappointment.

A marmite film g2d I watched also, nowhere near as good as I thought it would be.

The dog took the acting honours for me..

The lawn was pretty good too, .

I have absolutely no sympathy with murdering bastards such as ISIS and Al-qeada and I quite accept that they represent a BRANCH of Islam called Wahibbism ( various spellings ). And the abuse I am getting suggests it's not just some Muslims who are intolerant.

I forgot about the lawn. A short but level display..

Well, well, well, well, well. Who would have thunk it ?

As evidence reaches us from the courts and background reports from the local community, the expression 'youaintnomuslimbruv' is quickly revealed to be another humiliating untruth.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3348758/Man-29-charged-attempted-murder-Tube-station-two-men-attacked-man-allegedly-declared-Syria.html

Straight A student? Pillar of the community? Disgruntled employee?

salmon how long have you been on here (9 years next month) you really cannot be serious that you don't understand the workings of Chit Chat. I will help you .....It's an anonymous forum, populated with people with made up names, we don't know each other I cannot abuse you personally just the views of your 'Alter ego'. HTH

Btw I have enjoyed the many contributions you have posted on Horse racing, you have always come across as a well informed, intelligent, decent guy. We just don't agree on this, be lucky .

Dec 7, 2015 -- 10:10AM, guinness2dear wrote:

I forgot about the lawn. A short but level display..

A bit green to begin with but settled into the role the longer the film went on.



I'll get me coat

It shows how superficial David Cameron is,shows how scared he is.

The idiot that shouted this inanity ignores the fact that that is exactly what that gentleman is,a true Muslim.

Ye have to laff at teh 'authorities' They are now increasing security at tube stations? Now if i was disgruntled mussie, i would be heading to my nearest fruit and veg shop with machete in hand..

wildmanfromborneo, yes it beggars belief, has it stopped raining in Tipp yet.

Fair enough boxingthefox.
Tbh I don't venture on to chit-chat much.

g2d everything thing is reactive when we need proactive.

Salmon,

Btw; i would just like to say, if there is a a mussie attack on a fruit and veg shop in the near future, i am a disgruntled paddy.

Thank you.

The reprobates who stood their filming should be named and shamed. Sickening.

*there

Injera, yes it's sickening.

"Dispatches has investigated a number of mosques run by high profile national organisations that claim to be dedicated to moderation and dialogue with other faiths. But an undercover reporter joined worshipers to find a message of religious bigotry and extremism being preached."
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https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/video-islam-in-britanistan-undercover-mosque/


GO ON I DARE YOU TO WATCH IT!!!!

Good think tank that. Think i'll start a fred about it..

^^^

This is quote of the year and in so few words completely typifies a Londoner. Superb stuff. Makes me even more proud of my hometown which is the greatest city on earth.

Even though it's a patent untruth?

makes a liar out of farage thought no one spoke english on the tube

alun... whilst it may technically be an untruth it has potential as a rallying cry for the moderate Muslim when an outrage is committed supposedly in the name of his/her faith... it is much catchier than "Islam is a religion of peace and we do not condone these acts" or other such anodyne tripe that gets parroted out at such times.

Absolutely right Injera. In France ghouls like that are liable to be prosecuted. I heard on R4 that only one member of the public did anything to help the unfortunate victim. That "have-a-go-hero" should be commended.

Clouseau

The phrase begs the question...

Who is (as opposed to aint) a Muslim?

The FGM promoting father/mother? The imman who says Muslim women shouldn't ride a bicycle?
The parents who kill their kid for 'dishonouring' Islam?
The law court in Saudi that rules a convert FROM Islam should be executed?

The man who insists his Mrs should be dressed in black (as opposed to his white) and walk BEHIND him?

We STILL await a journo to have the balls to ask these questions and more.

Whether he is or ain't a Muslim is semantics, what's key to this is the brilliant statement and the typical 'London' attitude.

The stabbings and the "This is for Syria' statement is ultimately far more representative of modern London, and its many peace-loving types.

None of the above imo and probably the vast majority of Muslims in this country who don't have a coherent and media-friendly/ headline-attracting spokesperson.

unfortunately he was

I can't wait to see how many other Islamist terrorists will suddenly be given the 'Youaintnomuslimbruv' treatment.  The 7/7 assassins?  Lee Rigby's killers?  The Charlie Hebdo/Bataclan Theatre mass murderers?

When will this preposterous re-writing of history lunacy end?

Don't think doing it retrospectively would work alun but it gives the "moderate majority" the perfect opportunity to get the placards out and march against these religious usurpers and show their solidarity with this country and its values with a slogan that matches in its succinctness the "Je suis Charlie"

There really is no excuse now for moderates to get out and disown the fanatics and we can all join in. win/win.

If you are a moderate then the phrase is correct.

There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim,the ones called moderate are really lapsed Muslims.

Hearing Johnny Mustang talking about London wit is nauseating,the present Londoners inherited one of the greatest cities in the world and they just handed it over without a fight.
Look at who they elect.listen to London audiences,its a Muslim city now.

Don't hold your breath Clouseau.

Don't be a Grade A fool all of your life Wildman. Where did I say it was London wit? No, I didn't. Idiot.

Tube attack hero who shouted 'You ain't no Muslim bruv' reveals he is NOT a Muslim and now fears ISIS revenge attacks

    John, a non-Muslim, said he just had to say what he felt at the time
    The security guard from North London fears future ISIS attacks in London


- Daily Mail. Also reported in The Times.

so a non uslim telling a muslim he aint no muslim,police probably investigating a hate crime as we type

not that scared to stop him dragging himself from one media outlet to another

John worried about his own safety decided to talk to a newspaper

if isis are interested slightly less difficult than dark cave in torra borra, a reckie of the  studio,s of loose women,good morning britan or lorraine kelly should do the trick