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Who could have predicted that?
Only happens annually
Would love to know how many have been killed there over the years
Must be tens of thousands
Only happens annually
Would love to know how many have been killed there over the years
Must be tens of thousands
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To me, it's like their being punished for not letting in any of their fellow Muslim refugees. 
July 2, 1990 : A stampede inside a pedestrian tunnel (Al-Ma'aisim tunnel) leading out from Mecca towards Mina and the Plains of Arafat led to the deaths of 1,426 pilgrims, many of them of Malaysian, Indonesian and Pakistani origin.[2][3]
May 23, 1994 : A stampede killed at least 270 pilgrims at the stoning of the Devil ritual.
April 9, 1998: at least 118 pilgrims were trampled to death and 180 injured in an incident on Jamarat Bridge.[4]
March 5, 2001: 35 pilgrims were trampled to death in a stampede during the stoning of the Devil ritual.[5]
February 11, 2003: The stoning of the Devil ritual claimed 14 pilgrims' lives.[6]
February 1, 2004: 251 pilgrims were killed and another 244 injured in a stampede during the stoning ritual in Mina.[7]
January 12, 2006: A stampede during the stoning of the Devil on the last day of the Hajj in Mina killed at least 346 pilgrims and injured at least 289 more. The incident occurred shortly after 13:00 local time, when a busload of travellers arrived together at the eastern access ramps to the Jamarat Bridge. This caused pilgrims to trip, rapidly resulting in a lethal crush. An estimated two million people were performing the ritual at the time.
24 September, 2015: More than 450 pilgrims were killed and another 700 injured during a crush in the 2015 Hajj
May 23, 1994 : A stampede killed at least 270 pilgrims at the stoning of the Devil ritual.
April 9, 1998: at least 118 pilgrims were trampled to death and 180 injured in an incident on Jamarat Bridge.[4]
March 5, 2001: 35 pilgrims were trampled to death in a stampede during the stoning of the Devil ritual.[5]
February 11, 2003: The stoning of the Devil ritual claimed 14 pilgrims' lives.[6]
February 1, 2004: 251 pilgrims were killed and another 244 injured in a stampede during the stoning ritual in Mina.[7]
January 12, 2006: A stampede during the stoning of the Devil on the last day of the Hajj in Mina killed at least 346 pilgrims and injured at least 289 more. The incident occurred shortly after 13:00 local time, when a busload of travellers arrived together at the eastern access ramps to the Jamarat Bridge. This caused pilgrims to trip, rapidly resulting in a lethal crush. An estimated two million people were performing the ritual at the time.
24 September, 2015: More than 450 pilgrims were killed and another 700 injured during a crush in the 2015 Hajj
Obviously, throwing stones at the devil only makes him madder.
My advice ... don't do it.
My advice ... don't do it.
Who knows the Devil might like getting stoned ,I know people that do.
They love it!!!
Massing, stampeding, beating themselves around the head till they bleed.
Massing, stampeding, beating themselves around the head till they bleed.
Used to live in Teheran before the revolution and every year there would be a day when they took to the streets and whipped their backs until bleeding.
It's something I'd have happily helped them with.
Nutters
It's something I'd have happily helped them with.
Nutters
dear me, anyone wondering why the forum has turned to sh1t just needs to read this thread. Shocking.
The media keep saying the Holy site as if it is a fact
They should say what Muslims believe to be a Holy site.
The reason is of course they dare not suggest there is any doubt in case they enrage Muslims and they are threatened.
They should say what Muslims believe to be a Holy site.
The reason is of course they dare not suggest there is any doubt in case they enrage Muslims and they are threatened.
Isnt it the 6th pillar of Islam ?- "get killed in **** pilgrimage because 'the man' told you all to go there?"
mememe........die linke still believes in adam and eve
That's what I thought. He must be p*ssing himself.
Hajj piligrimage crush....717 dead ....805 injured ... expected to rise
Stampeding all over Europe, as seen at various railway stations. Another day, another stampede.
Didn't our parents always warn us not to throw stones?
"Hajj piligrimage crush....717 dead ....805 injured ... expected to rise"
Alah Akbar
It's God's will !
Alah Akbar
It's God's will !
Headline should be: "Devil kills hundreds whilst getting stoned".
Mecca would be a fascinating place to visit, bet hotels are very reasonable on the off season.
Alah aint appy wiv em is he, dropped a bleedin crane on em the other week.
Looks like a spot of revenge by Al Lat Al Uzza and Mangt, for these infedels worshipping allah at their habbal
the list of previous calamities posted by brendan is most concerning.
If only the Saudis had the financial resources to be able to make adequate health and safety provisions.
If only the Saudis had the financial resources to be able to make adequate health and safety provisions.
The Hajj is so good I think it should be a daily event. Great way to rid the world of people driven mad by screwball religious beliefs.
HH sultan
I've reviewed Brendan's post and have spotted a strong correlation between stoning the devil and these tragic events.
I feel I should alert the authorities and suggest that they ease off on the stoning ... it's just not worth the risk, imo.
Maybe just pull their tongues out and make a funny face, shouldn't do too much harm.
I've reviewed Brendan's post and have spotted a strong correlation between stoning the devil and these tragic events.
I feel I should alert the authorities and suggest that they ease off on the stoning ... it's just not worth the risk, imo.
Maybe just pull their tongues out and make a funny face, shouldn't do too much harm.
Should read 700 lunatics crushed while throwing stones at a bits of stone they thought was the devil ...
The media indulging in 'there's just too many people' all day
Yet
- Hajj - 2-3 million visitors
- Oktoberfest - 6-7 million visitors and increased alcohol indulgence
Wonder how the fatality rates compare
Yet
- Hajj - 2-3 million visitors
- Oktoberfest - 6-7 million visitors and increased alcohol indulgence
Wonder how the fatality rates compare
Poppydog,
yes, but the drunken Germans aren't throwing stones at the devil and making him angry.
The Haji-wallahs are, though.
That's all you need to know.
(BTW, if you (they) believe in the devil and that he does bad things, why would you throw stones at him - a bit like teasing a rotwieller - you just don't)
yes, but the drunken Germans aren't throwing stones at the devil and making him angry.
The Haji-wallahs are, though.
That's all you need to know.
(BTW, if you (they) believe in the devil and that he does bad things, why would you throw stones at him - a bit like teasing a rotwieller - you just don't)
Why do the saudis continue to host the ol' debbil if he continues to cause such havoc?
they arnt throwing stones at the devil, they are throwing them at another stone in the absence of the devil.
I dont think theyd be quite so brave if confronted by the devil imo
I dont think theyd be quite so brave if confronted by the devil imo
The Maltese know how to handle the Devil.
What they do is to confuse him so that he never knows what time it is.
On public building that bear a clock, they place a second clock with numbers and figures that make no sense at all.
This ensures that the Devil never knows the time of day, because he doesn't know which clock is showing the correct time.
Clever eh?
Just think where the Maltese would be now if they had had all the Saudi oil?
What they do is to confuse him so that he never knows what time it is.
On public building that bear a clock, they place a second clock with numbers and figures that make no sense at all.
This ensures that the Devil never knows the time of day, because he doesn't know which clock is showing the correct time.
Clever eh?
Just think where the Maltese would be now if they had had all the Saudi oil?
^ Surely they've made Zillions from them chocolate balls.
Those loveable rouges Paddy Power are opening a book on the number of deaths next year.
They love it!!!
Massing, stampeding, beating themselves around the head till they bleed.
At last someone mentions Calais...
Massing, stampeding, beating themselves around the head till they bleed.
At last someone mentions Calais...
Were they Martyred ?
Do they still get their 27 Virgins apiece ?
Do they still get their 27 Virgins apiece ?
A million on the streets of Nottinghill for the carnival every year in tight roads many drunk. No similar problems. Maybe a few cans of Red Stripe and a toke would calm them Moslems down.
The footage of the crane crash the other week is online.
Though I cant provide the link as I will deffo be banned for life, it's pretty grusome
Though I cant provide the link as I will deffo be banned for life, it's pretty grusome
Interesting how Saudi can construct a tented community for up to 2 million pilgrims at Hajj but do nowt for the muslim refugees from syria ?
Interesting how Saudi can construct a tented community for up to 2 million pilgrims at Hajj but do nowt for the muslim refugees from syria ?
Aye: ye have to think Jehovah has some sense of humour to give the Arab nation so much oil. Mind you, he gave his own race all the banks..
BBC gone into its usual meltdown over this even the government to send a special task force to see if any them reside here
Apparently Saudi don't know how this happened yet. Probably be blaming Israel soon.
too many people is my guess
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsMeirkwHX4
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https://youtu.be/cCEBwSk0ePM?t=2728
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsMeirkwHX4
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https://youtu.be/cCEBwSk0ePM?t=2728
why do all the muslims go to mecca if they arent supposed to gamble?
dont tell betfair about the millions of visitors to mecca each year cos they will probably want to merge with them to increase their share price.
Betfair share price - up 146% on the year.
They've even gone up since June while the FTSE 250 index has gone down.
They've even gone up since June while the FTSE 250 index has gone down.
Just remember crips, investments are rather like girlfriends,they can also go down in a short time !
Befair must be doing something right, yet to read the stuff on here you'd think they were going broke.
What a disaster, has this happened before........Oh yeah.......still lessons will be learned ????. and to be fair the Saudis are probably strapped for cash, so maybe we should offer aid. The BBC has told us that there are . FEARS that 'british Muslims' may be among the dead Mnnnnnnnnnn............. well when you engage in the ritual of stoning the Devil, he might actually have something to say about it.
I've got know idea why they keep bothering the ol' debbil.
Wesdaq - millions of Christians renounce him every Sunday, and it's orderly in the aisles as far as I know. few space constraints in your average CofE church mind.
apparently this is true at the stoning of the devil you are supposed to throw a stone at the tower. the size of the stone recent years has increased to show your anger at all the wrong in the world, so the younger fitter men can throw bigger and larger stones than normal, and apparently some of them dont take very good aim and when they miss, and with all those people there, someone gets a very large rock hitting them on the head and they end up dead
blackburn - it seems that you may renounce him but just be careful you start chucking stones.
He might pull a stunt.
He might pull a stunt.
heres another one all muslims should do the hajj pilgramage to be considered a true muslim
also to die at the hajj pilgramage is considerd to be a great honour in the islamic world as they believe you go to a better place(dont tell them its the morgue)
anyway there are said to be some instigators that like to create stampedes and any deaths caused gives them great satisfaction in sending their fellow muslims to their better place (the morgue)
also to die at the hajj pilgramage is considerd to be a great honour in the islamic world as they believe you go to a better place(dont tell them its the morgue)
anyway there are said to be some instigators that like to create stampedes and any deaths caused gives them great satisfaction in sending their fellow muslims to their better place (the morgue)
I caught a woman on the news describing the deaths as the 'will of God' and they were in the hands of their God.
This is simply corrosion of intelligence and anti progressive.
They died because of human stupidity and probability. The patterns are well known and established, they can be recreated easily on computers and predicted.
This is simply corrosion of intelligence and anti progressive.
They died because of human stupidity and probability. The patterns are well known and established, they can be recreated easily on computers and predicted.
looks like a multi story carpark, built by bin laden apparently 
It doesn't matter how many times they throw this headline at me I really am struggling to give a fk. Almost at the point where I wanna look up what the world record lives lost at a stampede is to see if the record could be broken. But I can't even be bothered to do that.
Apparently the Saudi's held up the crowd so that some dignitaries could get there first and be there in peace, more and more people gathered and the inevitable happened when you've got a million people holed up together in a relatively small area. Saudi's are blaming non Arabic speaking muslims for the confusion.
Saudi rulers don't do blame. If anyone dare suggest otherwise they could find themselves at the bottom of the next stampede.
These stones that they chuck, and the size stipulation.
Do they bring there own and test them through a hole, like at the British Post Office, or do they get them from a Stone Wallah.
Seems to me there could be a really good business there, selling accredited stones, and perhaps decorating them in appropriate designs.
Also they could be re-cycled ready for next time!
Do they bring there own and test them through a hole, like at the British Post Office, or do they get them from a Stone Wallah.
Seems to me there could be a really good business there, selling accredited stones, and perhaps decorating them in appropriate designs.
Also they could be re-cycled ready for next time!
Doesn't take a genius to work out that a couple of million people (can you imagine 25 x full Wembley stadium!) in sweltering temperatures, many elderly and infirm and all with the intent of chucking small stones at a bigger stone, is recipe for disaster and fatalities are not just likely but almost inevitable.
A ludicrous situation, and regardless of the religious pointlessness of it all, the people or state who organise it should be held accountable as criminally negligent. It's not dissimilar to a disaster ten times the scale of Hillsborough happening every year but nothing being done about it. Truly crazy.
A ludicrous situation, and regardless of the religious pointlessness of it all, the people or state who organise it should be held accountable as criminally negligent. It's not dissimilar to a disaster ten times the scale of Hillsborough happening every year but nothing being done about it. Truly crazy.
Saudi Arabia's King Salman has announced a full safety review now.
Wouldn't be surprised if heads roll ...
Wouldn't be surprised if heads roll ...
People with stones, chucking stones at a larger stone?
Stone age.
Stone age.
I don't think you all get it.
There a small tin can on the top of the stone (hard to see in pics, you have to be there apparently) and the idea is to try and knock the tin can off the stone in 3 throws.
If you do you win a little fluffy devil to hang on the back of your camel.
There a small tin can on the top of the stone (hard to see in pics, you have to be there apparently) and the idea is to try and knock the tin can off the stone in 3 throws.
If you do you win a little fluffy devil to hang on the back of your camel.
The irony is they probably don't beleive in Darwinism.
They should have a memorial service in a couple of weeks and then, no doubt, another memorial service in another couple of weeks,
and so on, till the stampeding novelty wears off!
and so on, till the stampeding novelty wears off!
Seems to me there could be a really good business there, selling accredited stones, and perhaps decorating them in appropriate designs.
Also they could be re-cycled ready for next time!
Probably closer to the truth than many realise,the Hajj has been a money spinner for the saudis over the years.Tourism and rip off merchants taking advantage of the pilgrims,works for every religion.
Also they could be re-cycled ready for next time!
Probably closer to the truth than many realise,the Hajj has been a money spinner for the saudis over the years.Tourism and rip off merchants taking advantage of the pilgrims,works for every religion.
Saudi religious leader got to the bottom of this very quickly. According to him it was destiny and fate. So there you go. Case closed.
Phillip Hammond salavating over the Brits that may be involved.They are not Brits they are tax dodgeing benefit claiming invaders,not many votes in speakingthe truth tho.
Should put them on roller skates next year and speed it up.
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