Is spelling important any more?

If you read you learn to spell correctly.
When I see spelling mistakes it tells me the person does not read.

Well I don't no the answer to that.

It's to deep a subject to expect too find an answer in you're top draw!

And as the girl, on the phone, at the takeaway always says "Anyfink else"?

Our office cleaner drank micardi and coke.  Sometimes she switched to volka.

Silly rules made up in dark ages by monks.

Illogical.

We should spell how we speak.

i before e except after c, except for weight etc etc.

More anomalies than (whatever the opposite to anomaly is) just googled it ... normalities

People can find they spell better writing with a pen or pencil. Its not just hitting the wrong letter by mistake, although that happens....there is something in the pen itself that spells correctly and the keypad dosn't

Ashamed to admit it, but one within my extended family just can't get the "a" & "an" rule!

Eg "a Elephant" and "an Tiger"! Would anyone say that, as it's very awkward, so why write it?

Indeed Aunty.

I could of seen you were a man of distinction.

People can find they spell better writing with a pen or pencil.

I can quite imagine this could be correct. Will have to see where the consensus lays.

The very physical act of writing with a pen will enable you to spell, it is the pen and its connections to   forgotten and dreamlike days at school.

Indeed Aunty.

When a staff member messaged me "do you no", I thought it was just a brain lapse, but not after the third time!

But then I realised it is a regular thing with others.

Also it seems to be not just in GB, but across our English speaking cousins.

In Halfords yesterday, and a note in front of one till said "Card only as can't open draw"!!!

Again that is not uncommon!

I really think that schools would be better off, cutting back time spent on such as "Chemistry, Biology, Physics, branches of Mathematics such as "Algebra",
"Trigonometry" and fringe subjects, such as I suffered, including "Latin", and preparing the majority of kids for the real world.

I've often wondered if there is the same level of ignorance, in none English speaking people.

If any of you well traveled guys/gals have experience please post.

Have to chuckle at the OP and talk of pronunciation!

Now, no excuses, I have held up my hands, many times, as to not being the best in this area, but I do chuck in a handful of commas before posting!

A popular error in shop windows is "Opening times 2.0pm to 12.00am "etc.People don't seem to know that it's either 12 noon,or 12 midnight.12.00am and 12.00pm.don't exist.

I must confess commas do present difficulty sometimes Aunty but I'm looking for where I've missed them in my opening posts and struggling.

After reading one of my superb reports my manager emailed me to say "it would have been nice to of seen more data". She also says "aks" and "percific". I am currently looking for other opportunities.

It's a plot by rich Tory toffs. Don't teach the underclasses about spelling and grammar, so all the best jobs go to the posh kids.

don't most shorthands have a 1:1 phoneme:grapheme relationship, instead of the nightmare that is English?

It does seem to demonstrate that English is a bit of bugger to learn and read, as anyone who has taught a child should know. The sheer number of different ways of writing the same phoneme, and in particular that one grapheme may correspond to more than one phoneme makes it a royal pain in the arse.

It's less important than it used to be, mainly because of the advent of spellcheckers. However, I'm not going to lie, you look like a bit of a muppet if you constantly make errors with your spelling and grammar.

I'm sh*t at dancing, so I accept that if I go onto a dancefloor I'm going to look like a fool. Likewise, if you don't even understand how to use your mother tongue correctly, you're going to look like a fool on an internet forum.

Still important EO

Presumably the OP intended to spell Eeternal in that manner?

grammar... the difference between knowing your sh1t, and knowing you're sh1t.

I did indeed Knight and it was quite deliberate.

The alphabet was a genius invention to help spell words. A to the Z...

I said to a bird last week, I would rather cuddle then have sex. If you're good with grammar you'll get it.

when I was at school grammar or dots on an I or t to be crossed did not matter,commas or full stops did not matter.
that was our generation.but I am proud that the generation that came behind us learned from us,as we paided for their education as they grew up and all became grammar doctors.

Presumably the OP intended to spell Eeternal in that manner?

I bet he didn’t mean to spell optometrist like that though.

all these guys that got such a good education and they end up posting on a gambling forum,i guess my generation did not do such a good job at educating the next generation after all.

I think it is important, yes.

I must confess commas do present difficulty sometimes Aunty

As I admitted, punctuation can be difficult but I do try.

Generally, if you have a particularly long sentence, it's pretty certain that it needs breaking up somewhere.

I wouldn't insult you by correcting yours, but here are four commas for you to insert where it looks right.  , , , ,

I have a DVD entitled "Eats, shoots, and leaves" which is worth a listen......
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U14adg1cObk

There is a real case where a missed comma cost a company $500,000.00

Bruce Springsteen songs were a beautiful lesson in not using commas. Words tumbled into words with sentences longer than any other writer, some lines as long as an entire verse of most pop songs.

Not content with not using commas Bruce didn't leave any gaps between the words eg "Atnightweplayeditoutonthestreetsofarunawayamericandream" that is how it is sung and can you see how long that song is, even longer if you put spaces between the words.

Even songs such as Blinded by the light which Springsteen wrote for other groups do this, Springsteens entire career is built on not using commas.

Look and sing the line "at night we played it out on the streets of a runaway amarican dream" and look and sing..."struck up like a duce in the..etcetc( I forget the words :) )

I get really cross about it. Drives me mad and I think all potential new forum members should have some form of spelling test before they're allowed access.

No....


But what's more annoying is the finger pointing grammar cops whacking off to the latest spelling indiscretion.

Slightly different thing but it is sometimes said you can tell a persons character from their handwriting.
Is it possible they have got this back to front and it is not the syle of writing that reveals the character but the writing style itself that has an influence on producing the character.

This may be why past generations were so successful. If you look at schoolwork from a 12 yearold then , and the beautiful writing, maybe the appearance of this on the page and the mental process required to produce it creates the person.

Look and sing the line "at night we played it out on the streets of a runaway amarican dream" and look and sing..."struck up like a duce in the..etcetc( I forget the words :) )


surprised you haven't been lynched by a chit chat tedium mob

personally i put the exemplary spelling of some chit chatters down to the auto spell checker on their pc, the enormous amount of spare time they have for things like typing slowly and carefully, the willingness to reread their own posts, and the absence of any distractions like critical thinking, imagination, logic etc.
a post on chit chat is hardly of importance and if the meaning is obvious or unambiguous it would take a very tedious person to remark on typos, grammar and spelling.
a doctoral thesis or similar which attempts complex notions might be a different matter
http://nosuchthingasanopinion.yolasite.com/topical-articles00006.php

In answer to the OP, it's all three (points)

In summary:

It is important as it does illustrate intelligence, although the content and the argument illustrates intelligence more than the spelling and grammar itself.

There is less emphasis

Bring on the dopes

very good post polybot, there is a type of person, one springs to mind (ok i'll name him Alias) who immediately jumps on spelling mistakes, but who has an almost supernatural abilitynot to understand what a sentence actually means...it is as if the words do not register in any logical manner. It is not a case of a difference in view which is fine, but when he corrects spelling and yet dosen't seem to understand what the sentence means its a bit much.

sippose that should be supernatural ability to not understand, never the less it really is uncanny, everything becomes something else.

I'll mark that as a typo, rather than a spelling error!.

Using too many commas in good English is as common a mistake as using too few.

The text should be easy to read and flow along. Wrong use of the comma prevents that.

I'll take 1/10 it's not "as common"

Eeternaloptimist   

When I was at school it was drummed into us that spelling and punctuation helped illustrate a grasp of the nuances of the language and by extension intelligence. What I've observed on the internet seems to suggest that either there isn't as much emphasis on such things now or that the internet is a democratising tool allowing pig ignorant dopes equal ability to foist their idiocy on intelligent people.

Which is it?




You failed the second you posted yfsdc

dunno , wtfruoa ?

speling iz ektremley impotant in a profesional conteckst, duz it mater on anonimouse phorums, facebuk, twiter, etc? Not in the slytest.

As I alluded to before acquiesce12 there was a clear and deliberate reason why I spelt my name in the way I chose. Now leave the grown ups to to discuss serious matters. That way we can progress the discussion and you don't lose your turn on your mother. I think the Americans call that a win win.

I see things very much as Crips states. It's about the flow and understanding behind sentence construction. As a general rule, not exclusively, where words such as and, or etc are used I often find it helps not to use a comma unless one is specifically called for.

No there wasn't you thick ****, you f*cked up spelling your own name correctly and now you look like a complete and utter contradictory prick with this thread...there's no coming back, the irony is too great

Can't even conjure up a decent explanation

I don't need to for a half wit like you. I drop things far more intelligent than you down the bog after a decent vindaloo.

Now don't forget your number. It's like the supermarket and if you lose your turn who knows when you'll next get special rates on family conjugal rights?

Thinly veiled, "I'll keep trying to turn the tables and hope nobody else prods me on it"

You thick c**t, the very first think you ever tried to spell on here and you got it wrong and this thread has spectacularly backfired on you

YFSDC

The only thing you drop more than me down the "bog" is.....bullsh*t

I'll tell you what dikssplash. Take a straw poll of people you know (outside the asylum) and see how many spell eternal with two e's. My guess is it will be somewhere between 0 and 1 out of a hundred which will translate as 0 if you exclude your blow up doll. So then try to converse with the logical side of your brain and see if that can convince the side which enjoys flinging shiit at the wall just to see if it sticks. Good luck.

there's no coming back, the irony is too great
the very first think you ever tried to spell on here and you got it wrong

Aye, the irony.

There's no coming back from that. Even a tramp like acquiesce12 who lives in a dustbin and who wanders into the local library to log on, pretends to be a customer at McDonalds so he can have a wash, has to have some sense of shame surely?

How do they say it in your world old boy?

FOYDSCSRT.

Tramps and dustbin jokes, phuck me I've stumbled across the forums wittiest wordsmith genius, how do I compete with that

You have made a thread taking the piss out of those who cannot spell, yet you're so incredibly thick yourself, you forgot to which username you logged in as to post the thread


Keep digging and say hello to the Aborigines' for me when you get there

Well you've had your two minutes to impress me soft lad and so poor was your response that I've spent the last few hours looking in the local pond for your relatives. Shallow end of course. And what would be the point of saying hello to the Aborigines' on your behalf? Either they don't know you or they do and spend most of their time trying not to step in you.

In answer to your question you don't compete with me. Your ceiling is my floor and if you even dream you can best me you need to wake up and apologise.

Eternaloptimist, you remind me very much of Bert

From Sesame Street? 

I don't need to raise my level for someone trying to climb out of a bottomless hole. Tramps and dustbin retorts are your level son

Name: Eeternaloptimist
Thread title: Is spelling important any more?
Answer: For you, clearly not

What I've observed on the internet seems to suggest that either there isn't as much emphasis on such things now or that the internet is a democratising tool allowing pig ignorant dopes equal ability to foist their idiocy on intelligent people.


End of thread

Spelling is extremely important in my view, EO, I love the English language and its careless usage on fora such as these is truly depressing.  Nothing vexes me more than making a mistake myself, however, my posts might not always be perfect but it's not for the want of trying.

I don't want to brag, but I will.

When I was 8 years old I won the class prize for getting 50 out of 50 correct spellings.

It was a book called Stubby ... can't remember rest of it.

So, yes, spelling is important if you want to win spelling prizes.

I should add that in those days, it was a hard life.

No cental heating, no colour tvs, only BBC.  Holidays were 1 week in Scarborough.

So don't talk to me about spelling ... that book kept us warm for a week!