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bodil
13 Sep 15 23:45
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In the old days we called it invasion/God's will.  You killed/expelled the original inhabitants because they were different/where you wanted to be.  So much simpler.  And god was always on your side if you won.  You knew what your tribe was and wasn't.
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Report bodil September 14, 2015 12:03 AM BST
Where was I?  It was mainly about fertile agricultural land.  Now it's about benefits.  To the majority of humans, free money for having children and having the education and health care of all paid for is - magic.  The big problem for the Middle East is over-population for semi-arid land that cannot easily support anything near the present levels.
Report bodil September 14, 2015 12:16 AM BST
So they come to Europe.  With declining birthrates this might be OK but Islam is a poor neighbour.  I'm staggered any women support them as women are posessions with few rights.  And Wahhibism is frankly as bad as than anything the Catholic Church came up with in past thousand years.  Hopefully they will mostly kill each other in religious fervour.  But just in case ...  Oh crap.
Report bodil September 14, 2015 12:54 AM BST
I recall the disintegration of Yugoslavia.  All the Muslim families fleeing the Serbs, 60-90 people in shot.  Big families.  And Europe took a lot of them in.  And what are the Kosovans (Albanians) now known in Europe?  People-smuggling, illegal organ-transplants, forced prostitution, drug-smuggling.  And thanks to their big families they keep it 'in the family'.
Report bodil September 14, 2015 1:13 AM BST
Integration is the key.  If you insist on being different then accept the consequences.  It's worked both ways for the Jews - the religious rules allowed them to become the leading international financiers (and they have prospered) but that allowed them to become persecuted and hated.  Bummer.  And, arguably, the Zionist government of Israel is now driving the Middle East into a nuclear end-game.  Few will argue about the eventual wasteland.  Except the moderate majority.
Report bodil September 14, 2015 1:20 AM BST
I'm off for now.  If allowed to come back - I've several philosophical threads to follow.  Real-life stuff.  Sadly.
Report Pokermonster September 14, 2015 1:22 AM BST
I agree entirely, Bodil.  Just thought I'd pop in and offer some moral support so you didn't feel all alone, sir.
Report bodil September 14, 2015 1:28 AM BST
Thank you sir, now I really am gone.  I was wondering where the chit-chat inteligentsia were.  Harvested by the Corbynistas I thought.  Had barricaded my door and loaded the shotgun.
Report STUDYFORM September 14, 2015 9:54 AM BST
Interesting stuff bodil.
(remember you used to call me your other half brain, or somesuch)
Once again it applies, but... 2 comments:
1. The problem here, as with most things, is in trying solve loads of individual problems with one sweeping solution. Which can never really work.
and 2, I actually understood nearly everything you wrote!
Report pumphol. September 14, 2015 9:59 AM BST
Laugh
Report i_agree_with_nick September 14, 2015 11:20 AM BST
I'd love to know who "the Jews" are that people speak of. Doubtless there are many Jews in key positions in banking but I've known many, many Jewish people over the years and not one has ever worked for a bank or financial institution.

They were:

Lawyers
Accountants
Business owners
Factory workers
Taxi drivers
Clerks
Dentists
Security guard
A couple of ex-pro boxers
IT professionals
Travel agent
Estate agent
Market traders
Secretaries

Just a fair cross section I'd say.
Report i_agree_with_nick September 14, 2015 11:26 AM BST
I should add that I've lived my whole life either in London or within a 30 minute commute of its centre.
Report pumphol. September 14, 2015 11:27 AM BST
I bank at Lloyds, does that count ?
Report i_agree_with_nick September 14, 2015 11:31 AM BST
Maybe it's just the less than highfalutin circles I move in. Laugh
Report bodil September 15, 2015 11:23 PM BST
Well, I was just about to post the usual thread about the utter degradation of cheese-eaters on 13/9 (they are degraded on all other days just in case of confusion) and how they should repent when I must have been possessed with the spirit of SAGC/AITL etc.  Well, I assure you spirits were heavily involved.  I suppose I should develop the theme until the ban.  Betty Power will probably have it in for me anyway.
Report bodil September 16, 2015 12:32 AM BST
The reason the Jews did well in finance was thanks to religious rules - money-lending (usuary) was OK to non-believers and similar rules in Christianity meant they could borrow from non-Christians (and Christians could officially kill and loot them when their debts got too much).  Plus persecution meant they were present in many countries, having fled often.  The Rothschilds, legendarily, made loads from Waterloo because the family was present in most of the countries involved and had great communications.  Constant persecution makes you smart/widely distributed.  As for the present day - the financial crisis of 2008 had more than its fair share of Jewish firms/financiers - though a lot of those who made money opposing the sub-prime farce were also Jewish.  Smarter than the average. Fine by me.  As a race they are morally no better or worse than any other.  After the disaster of El Cid in Spain, with the eventual expulsion of the tolerant and civilized Moors, conversos and Jews, many Jews went to run the slave trade in Africa and, when the Inquisition turfed them out they went to the Americas to run the slave-operated mines there - until the Inquisition followed.  Practical. I'm alarmed today that the hard-line Eastern European influx seems to have taken over the Israeli government and aligned with extreme religious groups to gradually take back the land some Stone-age god promised them according to tribal myth.  I'm also thoughtful about the influence Jewish money has in US politics - though mad mavericks like Trump may rock that boat.  He seems to be pretty much anti-everyone different from him.  That could be the key to his support from the Republican masses.

They have significantly contributed to the melt-down in the Middle East but the threat to us is mainly Muslim.  Logically the US should have taken out Saudi Arabia after 9/11.  So much oil money (US dollars) is being spread around the world to further intolerance to anything but hard-line Islam. 

But it really boils down to too many people/too little fertile land/water/other resources.  Little point in curtailing our population if the rest of the world puts their overflow here. It just hastens our descent into chaos.
Report bodil September 16, 2015 2:05 AM BST
Let's consider inter-marriage as a measure of integration.  All the major religions - bar C of E (major?)- are against unless the external party converts. Extreme Islam proposes killing apostates - though around 75% of western converts do leave apparently.  Muslims in the UK overwhelmingly go for arranged marriages - keep the money in the family, which is why they have 10x genetic defects compared to the general population.  If they collectively choose to win the Darwin Group Award who are we to stop them?  But even the Indians here, who trouble us only because their children in school show up the aboriginals as idle sods, don't intermarry to any significant extent.  Consider the Empire.  British descendants are prominent only in those countries where we killed the bulk of the original inhabitants - US, Canada, Australia - and to a much lesser extent NZ (honourable draw)(S Africa going).  Where are the big Brit ghettos in India, Pakistan, and other Asian/African countries?  Almost nothing.  I guess the UK is lucky in that we have so many different racial groups they are all too busy feuding with each other to form a united front.  Plus, of course, we promote the smartest/most verbal into the political/media elite where they can reap the rewards without rocking the boat.  There are some 200+ countries and only 17 haven't been invaded/at war with GB.  Divide and not be conquered, maybe.
Report bodil September 18, 2015 12:40 AM BST
Less interaction than I expected.  I guess the chit chat forum is now so inconsequential that Zionist Central don't even post a spotty intern to view it.  How the mighty are fallen.  We used to have an overseer full-time.

To my surprise, reading what I posted is less embarrassing than expected.  I should debate numbers and the fact that most appear to be fit young (muslim) men - at least the vanguard.  And the Ponzi scheme we call welfare.

Let's just consider the numbers this morning.  Given the corrupt, incompetent, homicidal nature of many of the regimes round the world, hardly surprising many choose to leave.  Having considered it, I came to a number around a billion (was fairly strict in my cut-offs) that would choose to move from Asia and Africa (South America also - but the gay side seem to have found the key).  I know under the skin we are alike but culturally this is like a World War.  Still, we are long overdue one of those so this may be it.  Such numbers change our environment and culture for ever.  I prefer fewer and gradual racial mixing.
Report PatraTheCat September 18, 2015 1:05 AM BST
I'm less anti-immigration than most on here, but this migrant issue is being handled in a bizarrely feckwitted way. The only two arguments that seem to make sense are:

1. EU leaders are waiting for the migrants to do something sufficiently scandalous for public tide to turn against them: then they'll do something to stem the flow coming across the Med. (This is probably a bit paranoid).

2. Politicians are being politicians and using their feet to propel an empty tin container up the street. Much like during the "2008" financial crisis.

It's simply obvious that Europe can't accept unlimited numbers, so it's obvious that we have to do something. It's also obvious that acting sooner is better than acting later.
Report annie. September 18, 2015 1:14 AM BST
Bodil, I would have thought that you would get more 'interaction' if you posted whilst chit chatters were still awake! Silly

Still love your posts though Happy
Report bodil September 18, 2015 1:21 AM BST
annie, the only chit chatters that matter are Night Hawks.  Or Sh*te Hawks - one or the other.  I forget which.  Soon we'll be forgotten history.  Contradiction in terms?

European politicians that encourage mass immigration will be history also, soon.  Europe does mass violence/murder better than any other continent.  The incomers should bear that in mind.

How are you?
Report annie. September 18, 2015 1:30 AM BST
I am fine, bodil.  And you?  You seem more sober than before, have you cut down on the drink? 

I am going to bed now, good night Happy
Report bodil September 18, 2015 1:36 AM BST
Madder than ever.  Age can do that.  But still I have retained that vital sense of humour - and can laugh at the misfortunes of others.  Am cutting down on drink by consuming more of it than can possibly be brewed.  Surely must work in the end?

Sweet dreams, sweet princess.
Report bodil September 18, 2015 1:53 AM BST
Feed me!  My externals are burning up through lack of stimulation.  Ask me anything!  I could foretell your future.  After all, I'm a thousand times more convincing than any astrologer.  I could foretell your death!  And posibly be implicated in it.
Report onlooker September 18, 2015 1:58 AM BST
Not bad  - for a boy from Hag Fold.
Report bodil September 18, 2015 2:24 AM BST
Huh - but still they keep coming.  Just like the British Army on July 1st 1916, with happier results, admittedly.  Higher numbers though.  Ironic the Germans are encouraging now.  You have to match the right time with the right place!
Report bigmo September 19, 2015 7:44 AM BST
Angela Merkel booed by the Germans / Merkel wygwizdana przez Niemców / Merkel ausgepfiffen


"Traitor, traitor!" „Zdrajczyni, zdrajczyni!" The German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, was booed by the natives of the German city Heidenau, where he visited a camp for immigrants located in the city.



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfrip_T3Tzk
Report akabula September 20, 2015 11:13 PM BST
Facts disappeared? Maybe just busy with his house guests.
Report bodil September 21, 2015 1:41 AM BST
I'm losing it.  Consider the benefits Ponzi scheme we've erected.  To an outsider it appears we pay for people having children (more kids, more money), we pay them extra if they don't have a job that pays enough, we pay them if they don't have a job, we pay them if they're looking for a job, we pay them if they're genuinely capable of working but don't feel like it, we pay them if they actually can't work, we pay them when they get oldish.  If you live here you get free education (more or less) and free health care.  I reckon a few billion would think this is pretty marvelous.  Those few billion would have to be stupid/ignorant not to come.  Hell I would in their situation.  Problem is, it is a Ponzi scheme - we can't even cover the indigenous population.  I'd reckon any of us expects to take out 10 times+ more than we put in.  We've got an infrastructure the Victorians mostly paid for.  But the immigrants come anyway - hastening our Calvary.  Hell, why not, we're all the same under the skin.  Just occurred to me - maybe that's why the SNP are degrading the Scottish education and health systems. You cunning sods.
Report bodil September 21, 2015 1:51 AM BST
Would you be Scottish, by any chance?
Report anxious September 21, 2015 1:55 AM BST
Mancunian born and bred
Report anxious September 21, 2015 1:56 AM BST
in fact the Peoples Republic of East Manchester
Report bodil September 21, 2015 1:59 AM BST
So why angry?

More than a few benefits streams?
Report anxious September 21, 2015 2:02 AM BST
that original ponzi scheme he was some american blagger wasnt he
Report bodil September 21, 2015 2:09 AM BST
Yep - sure was.  Italian-American?  Though totally surpassed by Madoff - who ripped off fellow-Jews in the main.
Report bodil September 21, 2015 2:10 AM BST
And why are you anxious?
Report anxious September 21, 2015 2:12 AM BST
i am anxious and angry it keeps me going, part of the survival system.
Report anxious September 21, 2015 2:14 AM BST
im like a panther on the prowl Laugh
Report bodil September 21, 2015 2:16 AM BST
Worked for me when I was younger.  Watch out for everything.  Everything is out to get you.
Report bodil September 21, 2015 2:19 AM BST
Well, if you don't die young, you will eventually become a Tory.  Trust me, they're about where Labour were when I was young.

Bahn, bahn, bahn, autobahn.
Report anxious September 21, 2015 2:19 AM BST
i see so you were once angry and anxious
Report bodil September 21, 2015 2:23 AM BST
Mainly I've been serene and accepting.  Bar the odd psychotic episode - so my nurses tell me.  I'm allowed the odd day out, under heavy escort.  Can we meet?
Report anxious September 21, 2015 2:25 AM BST
Laugh the odd psychotic episode , are you medicated ?
Report bodil September 21, 2015 2:33 AM BST
Am calming down now listening to Rammstein, Sonne.  Splendid chaps who will sort out misunderstandings, especially between short people, and odd princesses.  Stay alert!
Report anxious September 21, 2015 2:36 AM BST
ok my friend adios now , i am off to the land of nod you take it easy now
Report bodil September 21, 2015 2:44 AM BST
And you my new aquaintance.  No one died.  A great result.
Report bodil September 24, 2015 1:03 AM BST
Just opening up the thread for a couple of hundred people.  Tents over there - toilets over here.  Try not to waste water or food.
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