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This looks really bad..on sky news now
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feel sorry for innocent car victims
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I live in Shoreham. First report I read said the pilot was alive and recovering in hospital.
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Pilot pulled from burning wreckage, I'd be amazed if he/she has survived.
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No chance pilot survived. Couldnt give a fck about him , he knows the risks...if he wants to do his c0ckwaving somersaults do it on a videogame not in a place where innocent people get killed
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Erm Vin ! people attend because of the Cxckwaving I believe they call it an air show ..
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Reports say the aircraft hit four cars and that two cyclists were also killed.
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If people have been killed then perhaps they ought to think about these airshows.
As has been said the pilots know the risk but innocent travellers don't. |
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Did the plane not bounce off the cars and onwards in which case the pilot surviving is realistic
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The people in the incident were not at an air show there were driving along a road nearby.
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Seven confirmed deaths; Not clear whether this includes the pilot. Very sad.
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not 'sad' tho' is it - theres no such thing as 'sad', given a little consideration. Just a bad fact. 'Sad' is just so mawkish. I'm sad if my puppy dies - I'm not sad about people obliterated by fire and high-speed metal - I'm disgusted.
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With all the health and safety rules that exist in this country, it's staggering that such "shows" are allowed to go on in the knowledge that any pilot error will lead to fatalities of innocent bystanders.
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more interestingly, a Hawker Hunter looks like a plane most unsuited to loop-the-looping.
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An appalling tragedy. A mate of mine just phoned to say he'd driven past Lancing College just hours before, with wifey and 2 children..
The margins are so fine. Living is dangerous... |
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more interestingly, a Hawker Hunter looks like a plane most unsuited to loop-the-looping.
Been used by the 'black arrows' so it must be loop the loop kosha. |
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Some weirdos on this thread
People die in car crashes all the time. Are you suggesting no one drives or flys and we all just sit at home eating porridge, drinking water and popping anti depressants? |
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I'm suggesting we don't have dangerous manouvres by planes when in close contact with crowds.
Health and safety gone mad but my own footy club are allowed 666 on our terracing despite have crowds of 35,000 before. |
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Sharp cookie that desperatemunter. An expert on the etymology of sorrow AND the capabilities of post ww2 warplanes. My how we are blessed on here.
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Seeing a plane crash at an air show is a bonus attraction for many.
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it must be fate when you wait 2 hours to go 5 miles and you end up dead
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"more interestingly, a Hawker Hunter looks like a plane most unsuited to loop-the-looping."
It's a famous fighter plane that was used by the RAF display teams?! It almost looks like the guy looped too low, maybe had his altimeter set wrong or something. |
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Zazu how is a car crash a comparison to a stunt performed to entertain and ending up killing innocent people.
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These things are tightly regulated after previous disasters so for example he wouldn't be looping over the crowd, there are imaginary lines they aren't supposed to cross, and the display will be pre approved I'm sure. He landed on the road thogh didn't he, you can't really plan for that.
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Four of my friends driving to Brighton for the football went through that junction at approx 1.15pm. Fine margins indeed. Seems odd that the pilot would attempt such a delicate manoeuvre in a flight path that mirrored the line of the road? You'd think somebody might have thought of that one...
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Just Checking 22 Aug 15 19:48
These things are tightly regulated after previous disasters so for example he wouldn't be looping over the crowd, there are imaginary lines they aren't supposed to cross, and the display will be pre approved I'm sure. He landed on the road thogh didn't he, you can't really plan for that tbf if I was driving along that road at the time, as I have done many times, and some pillock tried doing a loop the loop over the top of me I would be seriously pissed off with them even if they managed to complete it safely. The paying crowd appear to have been kept safe at the expense of members of the public who were innocently going about their business. Whilst I have sympathy for the pilot's family I hope the organisers get jailed and bankrupted for this abomination and I sincerely hope they are insured for many millions. This was an entirely foreseeable catastrophe. |
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Well I agree, it does seem a bad place to do it, but I don't know the area, is it all built up so there isn't actually any space to do it anywhere that's 100% safe?
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^ not according to zazu
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It's at a place called Shoreham-on-Sea!
sea is about 500 metres away but probably too far away for the thrillseekers |
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the other side of the airport is totally populated so if you are going to do stunts it was the "safer" side
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Probably used the road as a line, but shirley it should had been done over the runway.
And it did like he was only a few feet from perfecting the loop. |
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Airshows I've been to are always
runway ------ crowd and the planes area always the other side of the runway, they never come this side of the line. They tend to do things on a line with the runway but if they need to circle, it's away from you. As IS says, I'd have expected something like that to be along the line with the runway. Unless he got completely disorientated and thought the road WAS the runway... |
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Maybe he blacked out momentarily, I'll guess we'll never know unless he survived.
Should you be doing loops in a 60+ year old jet? One of the witnesses said it broke in two, don't know how reliable that is. But it's an old plane. I know the Lancaster the BB Flight fly is not even allowed to be banked beyond a certain gentle angle. It's seems a bit reckless to be looping fast old jets anywhere near people and main roads. Some are saying the pilot survived, it'd be a miracle if he was still in the plane when it hit the ground and he's alive |
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...maybe the plane stalled at the top of the climb....
..or the pilot blacked out....had a heart attack...stroke.... |
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I think you would break in 2 if you hit the road at 200mph+
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The photos I've seen the plane is completely intact just before it hits, he's just too low with too much downward velocity even though plane is actually nose up. You can eject at 0ft and survive, maybe he did that?
"..or the pilot blacked out...." Little trivia: The German Stuka had a button the pilot would push to start an automatic procedure to pull the plane up out of the dive, so if the pilot blacked out he'd be fine, hands free. Tell that to the birds down the pub, they love facts like that ![]() ![]() ![]() |