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3 US marines on train I hope they kicked his brains in 
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Over here They'd be thrown in clink for racially aggravated battery.
was one of them called Camouflage?
Even now there will be some daft 'progressive' Rights organisation preparing some ridiculous lawsuit aimed at upholding the gunman's Human Right to be a Criminal, and no doubt wanting the heroic Marines to face the full weight of the law.
It can only be a matter of days before the terrorist is transformed into a martyr by the same imbecile media and lefty law organisations that absurdly bestowed Sainthood on the young man in Paris prevented from getting into a Metro train by Chelsea 'supporters'.
It can only be a matter of days before the terrorist is transformed into a martyr by the same imbecile media and lefty law organisations that absurdly bestowed Sainthood on the young man in Paris prevented from getting into a Metro train by Chelsea 'supporters'.
breaking news
terrorist gunman was black and it was two american cops,on holiday who stopped it
terrorist gunman was black and it was two american cops,on holiday who stopped it
can't see why a bloke stopped from getting on a train by racist idiots should be mentioned in the same sentence as a terrorist on a train shooting passengers 
Alun, you should apply for a freelance job with Private Eye. You should be getting paid for stuff like that. Would also get you out of the house on a Friday evening.
The shooter was known by officials.
Because of a bullshit human rights law we cannot protect.
Because of a bullshit human rights law we cannot protect.
Very brave men, God bless the United States and its beautiful people.
Why do put up with things like this? All we Europeans need to do is reform various law and treaties like, then start deporting all those Muslims who's views are anti western. If you don't like the west don't stay leave.
Seems a coincidence our heroes were so close to the gunman. Were they tracking him?
One said they heard the man load a gun in a toilet. Must have ears of a bat.
One said they heard the man load a gun in a toilet. Must have ears of a bat.
What a weird use of words, trying to discredit them by thinking they were tracking him.
Even if they were tracking him, still makes them heroes.
Even if they were tracking him, still makes them heroes.
Why do put up with things like this? All we Europeans need to do is reform various law and treaties like, then start deporting all those Muslims who's views are anti western. If you don't like the west don't stay leave.
TBF you can't stop any delusional nutter from committing any offence. I do think we should stop the political correctness, if they come here then they must accept our culture and values and not impose their own on us.
TBF you can't stop any delusional nutter from committing any offence. I do think we should stop the political correctness, if they come here then they must accept our culture and values and not impose their own on us.
hollywood movie soon.
French surrender monkeys saved again by heroic yanks
French surrender monkeys saved again by heroic yanks
Not at all Sonko.
I'm just pleased for such a great coincidence.
Many of these gunmen have been known to authorities so some sort of undercover surveillance wouldn't be unusual.
But it soes seem as though our heroes were off duty.
I'm just pleased for such a great coincidence.
Many of these gunmen have been known to authorities so some sort of undercover surveillance wouldn't be unusual.
But it soes seem as though our heroes were off duty.
70 Years and Counting..
A Brit tied him up. Old habits die hard..
A Brit tied him up. Old habits die hard..
There are a lot of similar type gentlemen on the European borders clamouring to get in.
This is the future,this is what the feel good merchants want to visit on us.
This is the future,this is what the feel good merchants want to visit on us.
Heroes indeed.
It sounds like the guy called Spencer deserves the highest possible accolade.
It would be interesting to see if he gets a civilian award and/or a military one.
Nice also to see someone in a football shirt getting positive press from an incident on a train!
It sounds like the guy called Spencer deserves the highest possible accolade.
It would be interesting to see if he gets a civilian award and/or a military one.
Nice also to see someone in a football shirt getting positive press from an incident on a train!
When is Jeremy Corbyn going to come out and complain about the blatant violation of this poor mans human right to slaughter people, by violent US imperialists?
I mean, basically, that's the st00pid **** and his supporter's level..
I mean, basically, that's the st00pid **** and his supporter's level..
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http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/08/22/hero-u-s-soldier-took-ak47-from-train-terrorist-and-beat-him-unconscious-with-it/
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/08/22/hero-u-s-soldier-took-ak47-from-train-terrorist-and-beat-him-unconscious-with-it/
And then everyone just started beating on the guy while Spencer held the choke-hold until he went unconscious”.
Brilliant
I wonder if the silly fxck thought he was in heaven when he woke up
Brilliant
I wonder if the silly fxck thought he was in heaven when he woke up
Doubt it. Surrounded by angry mob instead of virgins...
Lot of respect for those US servicemen and a British man, very brave, but how many people could have been killed if it wasn't for what they did. That air Force airman ran at the gunman when he opened fire. Real hero.
Some claim for the terrorist however as over excessive force was used.
The thing is if this sort of thing happens people know you might as well have a go because its not like the good old days of hostage taking and ransoms.
In America you can carry a gun, the only places that seems to be attacked on a regular basis is the places you can't carry a gun such as a school. Can you imagine if the gun attack in Tunisia had happened in the states, the gun man would be lucky to have got more than a couple of rounds before been shot of a yank in speedos
This is just another unwanted intervention by US bullies. Fancy attacking a young moroccan going about his business.
And where are the human rights lawyers to sue the carp out of those who carried out this gang attack on him.
And where are the human rights lawyers to sue the carp out of those who carried out this gang attack on him.
Unfortuantely I fear there will quite a few guys planning things like this amongst the cuddly nice refugees flooding in that the BBC etc love so much. It's not like it's predictable or anything, lets all act surprised when more sh*t like this happens.
The guys who disarmed him really do sound like heroes. So many people can thank fate they were there.
The guys who disarmed him really do sound like heroes. So many people can thank fate they were there.
Yes. I would say, judging by the number of magazines that he was carrying, he intention was to slaughter everybody on that train. 
Yes I seen that on the news that he said he was just intending to rob the train, but he had enough magazines to start a small war
There was something in the news the other day about intercepting a big pile of machine guns (including AK) being brought into britain, well done the authorities for catching that.
(REUTERS) – Fingerprint evidence shows that the gunman overpowered by passengers on a train in France is a Morrocan known to European authorities as a suspected Islamist militant, according to a source familiar with the case.
Two people were wounded in the struggle to subdue the Kalashnikov-toting attacker aboard the high-speed train from Amsterdam to Paris on Friday. Three young Americans, one of whom suffered knife wounds, were among the passengers who stopped the gunman.
French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve told reporters the gunman appeared to be a 26-year-old Moroccan who had been “identified by the Spanish authorities to French intelligence services in February 2014 because of his connections to the radical Islamist movement”.
Cazeneuve did not give a name, but the source named him as Ayoub el Khazzani and said he was believed to have flown from Berlin to Istanbul on May 10 this year. Turkey is a preferred flight destination for would-be jihadists heading for Syria.
According to a Spanish counter-terrorism source, Spanish authorities had a suspect they identified as Khazzani under surveillance before he left Spain for France in 2014, traveled to Syria, and then came back to France.
In Spain, he lived in Madrid between 2007 and 2010 before moving to the southern port of Algeciras. He was arrested in Spain at least once for a drug-related offence, the Spanish counter-terrorism source said.
Cazeneuve said he had also lived in Belgium and that inquiries “should establish precisely the activities and travels of this terrorist”.
French newspaper Le Voix du Nord said the suspect may have had connections to a group involved in a suspected Islamist shooting in Belgium in January. The Belgian government confirmed an inquiry was under way but would not comment further.
French authorities have been on high alert since January, when 17 people were killed in shootings by Islamist militants in and around Paris.
The train attacker was armed with a Kalashnikov assault rifle and an automatic pistol, both with accompanying ammunition clips. He also had a box cutter knife. Cazeneuve said the struggle started when a Frenchman on his way to the toilet tried to stop the man entering a carriage.
The wounded American, Spencer Stone, an airman from the U.S. air base in Lajes, Azores, was treated on Saturday at a specialist hospital for hand injuries in the northern French city of Lille.
Among the other passengers who helped stop the attacker were Stone’s friends: National Guardsman Alek Skarlatos and another American, student Anthony Sadler. Skarlatos had returned last month from a tour of duty in Afghanistan and the three were on holiday together in Europe.
Cazeneuve said the other wounded person was of Franco-American nationality and hit by a bullet while seated. Hospital authorities said the person had a chest wound and was in a serious but stable condition.
French actor Jean-Hugues Anglade was also slightly hurt, and had stitches in his hand.
“We were stuck in the wrong place with the right people,” Anglade was quoted as saying on BFMTV. “It’s miraculous.”
President Barack Obama hailed the passengers as heroes: “It is clear that their heroic actions may have prevented a far worse tragedy,” he said in a statement.
President Francois Hollande is due to thank them in person on Monday.
The gunman was transferred on Saturday to the Paris region from Arras in northern France where the incident took place. Cazeneuve said under the terms of his arrest the man can be held for four days without being charged.
The shooting took place on a Thalys high-speed train. The Franco-Belgian state transport group runs international trains linking France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany.
All four countries are part of the Schengen area through which people travel without the need for passports and security check-ins. Experts have long said the trains are a potential target for attacks.
Prime Minister Manuel Valls said in January there were more than 3,000 potentially dangerous Islamists under surveillance in France, home to Europe’s biggest Muslim community.
Most of the attacks and foiled attacks this year in France have been carried out by people who were on that list, but government officials say the surveillance cannot be constant.
“When there’s nothing to justify an arrest, there comes a time when you move on to other individuals,” said Sébastien Pietrasanta, a Socialist lawmaker who drafted France’s latest anti-terror legislation.
“Given the number of individual linked to radical Islamism its becomes complicated,” he told Reuters.
“We take 100 percent precautions but that does not mean 0 percent risk.”
BBC still refuse to report this and this has nothing to do with islam.
Two people were wounded in the struggle to subdue the Kalashnikov-toting attacker aboard the high-speed train from Amsterdam to Paris on Friday. Three young Americans, one of whom suffered knife wounds, were among the passengers who stopped the gunman.
French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve told reporters the gunman appeared to be a 26-year-old Moroccan who had been “identified by the Spanish authorities to French intelligence services in February 2014 because of his connections to the radical Islamist movement”.
Cazeneuve did not give a name, but the source named him as Ayoub el Khazzani and said he was believed to have flown from Berlin to Istanbul on May 10 this year. Turkey is a preferred flight destination for would-be jihadists heading for Syria.
According to a Spanish counter-terrorism source, Spanish authorities had a suspect they identified as Khazzani under surveillance before he left Spain for France in 2014, traveled to Syria, and then came back to France.
In Spain, he lived in Madrid between 2007 and 2010 before moving to the southern port of Algeciras. He was arrested in Spain at least once for a drug-related offence, the Spanish counter-terrorism source said.
Cazeneuve said he had also lived in Belgium and that inquiries “should establish precisely the activities and travels of this terrorist”.
French newspaper Le Voix du Nord said the suspect may have had connections to a group involved in a suspected Islamist shooting in Belgium in January. The Belgian government confirmed an inquiry was under way but would not comment further.
French authorities have been on high alert since January, when 17 people were killed in shootings by Islamist militants in and around Paris.
The train attacker was armed with a Kalashnikov assault rifle and an automatic pistol, both with accompanying ammunition clips. He also had a box cutter knife. Cazeneuve said the struggle started when a Frenchman on his way to the toilet tried to stop the man entering a carriage.
The wounded American, Spencer Stone, an airman from the U.S. air base in Lajes, Azores, was treated on Saturday at a specialist hospital for hand injuries in the northern French city of Lille.
Among the other passengers who helped stop the attacker were Stone’s friends: National Guardsman Alek Skarlatos and another American, student Anthony Sadler. Skarlatos had returned last month from a tour of duty in Afghanistan and the three were on holiday together in Europe.
Cazeneuve said the other wounded person was of Franco-American nationality and hit by a bullet while seated. Hospital authorities said the person had a chest wound and was in a serious but stable condition.
French actor Jean-Hugues Anglade was also slightly hurt, and had stitches in his hand.
“We were stuck in the wrong place with the right people,” Anglade was quoted as saying on BFMTV. “It’s miraculous.”
President Barack Obama hailed the passengers as heroes: “It is clear that their heroic actions may have prevented a far worse tragedy,” he said in a statement.
President Francois Hollande is due to thank them in person on Monday.
The gunman was transferred on Saturday to the Paris region from Arras in northern France where the incident took place. Cazeneuve said under the terms of his arrest the man can be held for four days without being charged.
The shooting took place on a Thalys high-speed train. The Franco-Belgian state transport group runs international trains linking France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany.
All four countries are part of the Schengen area through which people travel without the need for passports and security check-ins. Experts have long said the trains are a potential target for attacks.
Prime Minister Manuel Valls said in January there were more than 3,000 potentially dangerous Islamists under surveillance in France, home to Europe’s biggest Muslim community.
Most of the attacks and foiled attacks this year in France have been carried out by people who were on that list, but government officials say the surveillance cannot be constant.
“When there’s nothing to justify an arrest, there comes a time when you move on to other individuals,” said Sébastien Pietrasanta, a Socialist lawmaker who drafted France’s latest anti-terror legislation.
“Given the number of individual linked to radical Islamism its becomes complicated,” he told Reuters.
“We take 100 percent precautions but that does not mean 0 percent risk.”
BBC still refuse to report this and this has nothing to do with islam.
What we have here is another routine, completely predictable episode of a Europe that is dead set on self-destruction.
Let's remind ourselves of the familiar pattern of events that has taken place, a disturbing pattern known even to missing tribes in the Atacama Desert, but seemingly lost on Europe's governments.
- A North African Islamist is inexplicably allowed to live in France, but no-one appears to have quantified what exactly he would be adding to the country, let alone how his 'vibrant' presence 'enriches' the secular country of France.
- The man is reportedly long known to Intelligence/Security forces but still allowed to go about his pernicious business across Europe pretty much as he pleases, the results of which may yet be felt far and wide.
- The absurd soft and liberal treatment of the individual inevitably ends with him getting armed to the teeth with deadly weapons, and only a minor miracle prevents a massive killing spree.
All boxes ticked there.
The only thing that's left now are for an army of left-wing lawyers to connive to keep him from being deported (funded by unwilling taxpayers) with eager support from the dimwit left-wing media stooges.
Let's remind ourselves of the familiar pattern of events that has taken place, a disturbing pattern known even to missing tribes in the Atacama Desert, but seemingly lost on Europe's governments.
- A North African Islamist is inexplicably allowed to live in France, but no-one appears to have quantified what exactly he would be adding to the country, let alone how his 'vibrant' presence 'enriches' the secular country of France.
- The man is reportedly long known to Intelligence/Security forces but still allowed to go about his pernicious business across Europe pretty much as he pleases, the results of which may yet be felt far and wide.
- The absurd soft and liberal treatment of the individual inevitably ends with him getting armed to the teeth with deadly weapons, and only a minor miracle prevents a massive killing spree.
All boxes ticked there.
The only thing that's left now are for an army of left-wing lawyers to connive to keep him from being deported (funded by unwilling taxpayers) with eager support from the dimwit left-wing media stooges.
I wonder if the silly fxck thought he was in heaven when he woke up
Doubt it. Surrounded by angry mob instead of virgins...
Well, the British part of the angry mob was an IT Consultant, so ...
Doubt it. Surrounded by angry mob instead of virgins...
Well, the British part of the angry mob was an IT Consultant, so ...
"BBC still refuse to report this and this has nothing to do with islam"
Next they'll (the BBC) will be offering him (Terrorist) a Job as a Political Correspondent ....or he'll go to the Guardian !
Next they'll (the BBC) will be offering him (Terrorist) a Job as a Political Correspondent ....or he'll go to the Guardian !
Further to my defence of this poor homeless man who lived on a park bench.
His solicitor says he found a bag of guns and just went on a train.
I guess he may have been on his way to a police station to hand them in.
Of course he was curious and must have been investigating how the guns worked when these vicious thugs
attacked him for no reason.(probably because he was black and a muslim) So this is a racist and islamaphobic attack.
Obviously he defended himself with a knife.
Lots of compensation coming his way.
His solicitor says he found a bag of guns and just went on a train.
I guess he may have been on his way to a police station to hand them in.
Of course he was curious and must have been investigating how the guns worked when these vicious thugs
attacked him for no reason.(probably because he was black and a muslim) So this is a racist and islamaphobic attack.
Obviously he defended himself with a knife.
Lots of compensation coming his way.
From all reports, the would-be killer is not the sharpest mass murderer in the toolbox.
He forgot to lock the toilet door so the French passenger burst in on him (and tried but failed to disarm him) and made so much noise that the Americans recognised the sound of a gun being loaded. He did not load the pistol properly, and managed the almost impossible task of jamming an AK47, a weapon whose whole raison d'etre is not jamming in sandy deserts or muddy swamps.
Which mental shortcomings probably explain why he was so easily convinced that God needed him to massacre a bunch of tourists.
He forgot to lock the toilet door so the French passenger burst in on him (and tried but failed to disarm him) and made so much noise that the Americans recognised the sound of a gun being loaded. He did not load the pistol properly, and managed the almost impossible task of jamming an AK47, a weapon whose whole raison d'etre is not jamming in sandy deserts or muddy swamps.
Which mental shortcomings probably explain why he was so easily convinced that God needed him to massacre a bunch of tourists.
You can see now why it was, erm, absolutely essential that Europe gave the terrorist a homeland.
This is the sort of calibre of person that the 'enlightened' and 'progressive' left-thinking folk want on our own shores.
For example
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/23/david-cameron-uk-refugees-migration
This is the sort of calibre of person that the 'enlightened' and 'progressive' left-thinking folk want on our own shores.
For example
.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/23/david-cameron-uk-refugees-migration
The more these Muslim nutters do the more the guardian and the bbc seem to support their actions, I am suprised that under the current anti terror laws they haven't been changed with inciting an act of terrorism.
It's surely not so much a risk as inevitable that when you blindly take in literally millions of people from places where violence is normal, where we know there are many who hate us and want to kill us, that we're going to get a lot more things like this. Surely it's a very reasonable thing to consider? How would you price it up. 1.10? 1.01?
The way the BBC/Guardian deliberately look the other way or call people who point out the obvious names...
The way the BBC/Guardian deliberately look the other way or call people who point out the obvious names...
What percentage of the incomers will be paedophiles, the sort who left their indelible 'vibrant' and 'enriching' mark on any number of sexually-underaged white girls in umpteen UK towns?
Is anyone going to bother checking whether any of the incomers has a criminal record, or suffering from a serious health condition?
Is anyone going to bother checking whether any of the incomers has a criminal record, or suffering from a serious health condition?
Has the BBC told us yet if he was a straight A student?
BBC, we need to know!
BBC, we need to know!
Just in, he has a Blue Peter badge from 2005, and was given a funny look in 2008 !
"The BBC still refuse to rep[ort this, and this has nothing to do with Islam." ??? Refuse to report what? Does that make sense? What does it mean?
Would anybody care to enlighten me as to what is going on. Why do you say REFUSE?? Have these facts been established?
Would anybody care to enlighten me as to what is going on. Why do you say REFUSE?? Have these facts been established?
It isn't eveb remotely true, Naydam. 18 hours ago the BBC came out with this:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/635042761620762626
"...train gunman suspected of belonging to radical Islamist group but identity not established..."
Obviously it was on the main website too.
I actually agree that the press is, on balance, palpably pro-immigration and left-leaning, but its bias is dwarfed by those on here who seem to be egging each further and further into the realms of fantasy.
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/635042761620762626
"...train gunman suspected of belonging to radical Islamist group but identity not established..."
Obviously it was on the main website too.
I actually agree that the press is, on balance, palpably pro-immigration and left-leaning, but its bias is dwarfed by those on here who seem to be egging each further and further into the realms of fantasy.
The Beeb must have suffered from defamation in the past. I find they are very careful before even publishing a story that someone else has reported. In fairness I think it all boils down to their public ownership, they don't have shareholders to report to but the country
The Old Bill are making one arrest a day on terrorism charges.
I would not be exaggerating to say 99%+ are people who have been heavily influenced by a brand of Islam that leads them to violence.
That's just in this country. Abroad it is an issue affecting many nations. Muslims are killing Muslims in the main. But others are randomnly targeted in a world wide Jihad.
We've yet to see the media fully acknowledge this. They are often at pains to say the terrorists do not reflect Islam.
I beg to differ.
I would not be exaggerating to say 99%+ are people who have been heavily influenced by a brand of Islam that leads them to violence.
That's just in this country. Abroad it is an issue affecting many nations. Muslims are killing Muslims in the main. But others are randomnly targeted in a world wide Jihad.
We've yet to see the media fully acknowledge this. They are often at pains to say the terrorists do not reflect Islam.
I beg to differ.
And what a surprise, the authorities knew this guy was a loon and should have been locked up already. They tell us that they need to make encryption illegal and read everyone's emails to save us, but they never do anything with the info they have now.
1 arrest a day - would that be in relation to the 5 IRA members arrested for the murder of the dissident McGuigan? Do they count? There are regular arrests in NI for terrorism. They haven't gone away you know but how many are Islamic extremists?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8sbAD4eyGU
This describes our situation...
This describes our situation...
So, ninety-nine times out of a hundred, this ONE person who is today's terrorist arrest is found to be guilty.
They probably arrest more people for having sex with donkeys!
(I was shampooing her, Officer. Just keeping my clothes dry!)
As for the authorities being aware of this man's existence...what do you suggest they do? Charge him? With what? Had he committed previous offences that they could prove?
Thank you, Patra. It is reassuring to still hear balanced, logical replies.
They probably arrest more people for having sex with donkeys!
(I was shampooing her, Officer. Just keeping my clothes dry!)
As for the authorities being aware of this man's existence...what do you suggest they do? Charge him? With what? Had he committed previous offences that they could prove?
Thank you, Patra. It is reassuring to still hear balanced, logical replies.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32735484
I meant to post this.
I meant to post this.
The BBC are disgusting. I had the World Service on and apart from mentioning it every half hour for about 5 minutes and doing an interview with one of the Americans dad, local police and some of the passengers you would have known nothing about it. Typical leftie cover up.
btw bbc moaning is the mark of an attention seeking tw*t wanting a cuddle from other bbc moaners.
to naydam incitement, conspiracy, no end of charges available.
to naydam incitement, conspiracy, no end of charges available.
Rubber dinghy rapids bro
You've killed the special needs donkey
You've killed the special needs donkey
To Tommy Barnes. It is an almost insignificant incident. One man. No deaths. Not really the stuff that should grab the attention of the world's news. What should they report next? A benefits cheat? People are experiencing far worse than this on a daily basis.
I will accept that this incident does have media-appeal because, just for once, the public got the chance to show their feelings.
To Dave1357. What proof have they of incitement? Or conspiracy? You can't just jail somebody because somebody said he's going to be a naughty boy! You need facts! Proof. Evidence. You know, odd stuff like that.
I will accept that this incident does have media-appeal because, just for once, the public got the chance to show their feelings.
To Dave1357. What proof have they of incitement? Or conspiracy? You can't just jail somebody because somebody said he's going to be a naughty boy! You need facts! Proof. Evidence. You know, odd stuff like that.
Aye! But the other fella wasn't!!!
I must confess to a tad of embarrassment.
Every sentence and every word in that sentence from the BBC will be used to promote their anti western ideology. It is even more subtle than you would believe...
There was a programme that mentioned Guy Burgess, the soviet spy, and one time BBC employee just a few weeks ago....in a passing sentence they said that he had betrayed the British establishment..
The BBC could not bring themselves to say that this communist traitor had betrayed Britain....it was the establishment. The lies and manipulation of the message continues, they employed Burgess then who wanted the death and destruction of Britain and they continue today.
There was a programme that mentioned Guy Burgess, the soviet spy, and one time BBC employee just a few weeks ago....in a passing sentence they said that he had betrayed the British establishment..
The BBC could not bring themselves to say that this communist traitor had betrayed Britain....it was the establishment. The lies and manipulation of the message continues, they employed Burgess then who wanted the death and destruction of Britain and they continue today.
So according to his lawyer, he found an AK47 in a bag in Belgium. As you do!
How does she sleep at night? I appreciate its her job to defend her client, but why not say he was brainwashed, or is a bit thick,
to try and reduce his sentence, rather than make up this load of sh1te.
How would she feel,if after a reduced sentence , he is released early, goes on another shooting spree, and kills her son and grandson?
How does she sleep at night? I appreciate its her job to defend her client, but why not say he was brainwashed, or is a bit thick,
to try and reduce his sentence, rather than make up this load of sh1te.
How would she feel,if after a reduced sentence , he is released early, goes on another shooting spree, and kills her son and grandson?
The reason people pass comment on the BBC in this area is quite simple : they deserve it.
I watched a couple of reports on the migrant issue this week and it was if anything more biased than ever. The narrative they are pushing is very obvious: we should be letting them all in, if not also helping them to get here, and anyone against it or even questions it is a bad person or racist.
Take Macedonia, how dare be seen to be wanting to protect their borders and not let a pile people in who they didn't want to stroll on in. The BBC angle was very clearly that Macedonia was bad for this. I wonder how the lefties think their buddy Putin would handle them?
I watched a couple of reports on the migrant issue this week and it was if anything more biased than ever. The narrative they are pushing is very obvious: we should be letting them all in, if not also helping them to get here, and anyone against it or even questions it is a bad person or racist.
Take Macedonia, how dare be seen to be wanting to protect their borders and not let a pile people in who they didn't want to stroll on in. The BBC angle was very clearly that Macedonia was bad for this. I wonder how the lefties think their buddy Putin would handle them?
Lfc1971. Perhaps the bounder also betrayed the BBC?
Mad mad moon. Well, I suppose that, now he HAS committed an offence, he will be sent to trial. But you couldn't send him before because he'd done nowt wrong.
Just checking. Macedonia seems to be providing every assistance to the migrants in order to help them on their way.
All countries seem to be in agreement that they should be accepted. Who is against it? Is this the fault of the BBC?
Mad mad moon. Well, I suppose that, now he HAS committed an offence, he will be sent to trial. But you couldn't send him before because he'd done nowt wrong.
Just checking. Macedonia seems to be providing every assistance to the migrants in order to help them on their way.
All countries seem to be in agreement that they should be accepted. Who is against it? Is this the fault of the BBC?
Yes Macdonia caved and decided to adopt plan B which very shrew of them.
They don't let them stroll on in and do what they want, they are stuck on transport and moved to the other side of the country ASAP and dumped in serbia, as they head to Germany/Calais.
"All countries seem to be in agreement that they should be accepted. Who is against it?"
What the **** are you on? Did I miss the report where the UK/Ireland/Every Other Country in the World said to send as many as you like, we'll take them?
They don't let them stroll on in and do what they want, they are stuck on transport and moved to the other side of the country ASAP and dumped in serbia, as they head to Germany/Calais.
"All countries seem to be in agreement that they should be accepted. Who is against it?"
What the **** are you on? Did I miss the report where the UK/Ireland/Every Other Country in the World said to send as many as you like, we'll take them?
"which very shrew" is a spectacular combination of missed words and letters.
I'm posting it to 8 out of 10 do countdown as a conundrum.
I'm posting it to 8 out of 10 do countdown as a conundrum.
The reason people pass comment on the BBC in this area is quite simple : they deserve it.
I disagree. As I said above:
I actually agree that the press is, on balance, palpably pro-immigration and left-leaning, but its bias is dwarfed by those on here who seem to be egging each further and further into the realms of fantasy.
What the BBC deserves is to be nudged a little to the right to balance things up a bit; what it doesn't deserve is to be constantly pilloried for being virtual traitors to the country and part of some kind of inexplicable conspiracy to hand the oountry over to Islamic extremists. I find it remarkable that a forum full of gamblers, who should be relatively skilled at assessing and accounting for bias, are evidently so inapable of doing so.
For the record, I don't think we should be allowing any undocumented migrants into the country if we can avoid it, so don't accuse me of being part of this mythical "let them all in brigade" of which you constantly blather.
I disagree. As I said above:
I actually agree that the press is, on balance, palpably pro-immigration and left-leaning, but its bias is dwarfed by those on here who seem to be egging each further and further into the realms of fantasy.
What the BBC deserves is to be nudged a little to the right to balance things up a bit; what it doesn't deserve is to be constantly pilloried for being virtual traitors to the country and part of some kind of inexplicable conspiracy to hand the oountry over to Islamic extremists. I find it remarkable that a forum full of gamblers, who should be relatively skilled at assessing and accounting for bias, are evidently so inapable of doing so.
For the record, I don't think we should be allowing any undocumented migrants into the country if we can avoid it, so don't accuse me of being part of this mythical "let them all in brigade" of which you constantly blather.
Just checking. I do believe that the UK are proving somewhat difficult regarding the technicalities of the matter. However, that will change as soon as the migrants are accepted by any EU country.
Did I miss the report? I don't know. I didn't know that there had been a report. But from what I cam see, they get into dodgy boats and we (Europe etc) pick them up and bring them here (Europe).
Could you supply a list of countries that have refused to accept refugees?
Did I miss the report? I don't know. I didn't know that there had been a report. But from what I cam see, they get into dodgy boats and we (Europe etc) pick them up and bring them here (Europe).
Could you supply a list of countries that have refused to accept refugees?
It's obvious tryign to talk sense is useless but I'll try. Try watching the BBC coverage on this issue. Then read the guardian (where the not so mythical "let them all in brigade" are alive and well), then try to put a cigarette paper between their beliefs in this area.
"Could you supply a list of countries that have refused to accept refugees?"
So, the whole Calais thing didn't appear on your news radar? Or Macedonia, you know, the country we discussed 10 minutes ago?
"Could you supply a list of countries that have refused to accept refugees?"
So, the whole Calais thing didn't appear on your news radar? Or Macedonia, you know, the country we discussed 10 minutes ago?
Or the threads on this forum pointing out that Poland I think it was is only accepting a small number and they have to be christian? We're not in Schengen and are an island, thankfully.
Calais is a coastal town in France. Macedonia appear to have suddenly been faced with people wanting to cross their border.
I don't get any newspaper. I also see very little news. Perhaps you are overloaded with information and opinions?
The BBC don't send these migrants to Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Turkey or anywhere else for that matter. They simply report the facts. These people are here...they came from there...they want to go there.
They send a news-crew to show you the pictures and maybe find an English-speaker for rudimentary interview. But the people are there first! They are not the fault of the BBC!
I don't get any newspaper. I also see very little news. Perhaps you are overloaded with information and opinions?
The BBC don't send these migrants to Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Turkey or anywhere else for that matter. They simply report the facts. These people are here...they came from there...they want to go there.
They send a news-crew to show you the pictures and maybe find an English-speaker for rudimentary interview. But the people are there first! They are not the fault of the BBC!
So you're having a lengthy argument about the detail of BBC coverage and you don't watch it.
You are quite literally: ignorant (and in more ways than one).
And you call me "overloaded with .. opinions". I give up, arguing with your like is beyond pointless.
You are quite literally: ignorant (and in more ways than one).
And you call me "overloaded with .. opinions". I give up, arguing with your like is beyond pointless.
Not quite. I don't see a lot of it. But it is never anything like the fifth column agency that many on here see.
I agree that we should not argue and, just to show good faith...I'll give you half a point for Poland.
I agree that we should not argue and, just to show good faith...I'll give you half a point for Poland.
Well done to France for awarding the Legion d'Honneur to the heroes who downed the gunman and prevented carnage.
Full marks to the officials who have already made up their minds about the motives of the man with the gun. It seems they don't believe the embarrassing drivel about him finding the guns in a bag in a Brussels park after all. I'm surprised The Guardian hasn't yet waded in though to cast doubt and urge caution on the accepted version of events. No doubt there's still time.
Needless to say, the heroes would not have been presented with anything so fitting over here until there had been any number of fatuous trials, appeals, judicial reviews etc brought by any number of chancer Human Rights cretins on the gunman's behalf. And paid for by the UK taxpayer.
Full marks to the officials who have already made up their minds about the motives of the man with the gun. It seems they don't believe the embarrassing drivel about him finding the guns in a bag in a Brussels park after all. I'm surprised The Guardian hasn't yet waded in though to cast doubt and urge caution on the accepted version of events. No doubt there's still time.
Needless to say, the heroes would not have been presented with anything so fitting over here until there had been any number of fatuous trials, appeals, judicial reviews etc brought by any number of chancer Human Rights cretins on the gunman's behalf. And paid for by the UK taxpayer.
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