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ThunderRoad
21 Aug 15 11:33
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Can't seem to find another thread discussing the World Athletics Championships so thought I'd start one.

Justin Gatlin to win the 100 metres @ 6/5 (Boyle Sports) looks the stand out bet to me thus far; can't see him being beat.

Kirani James also a good price (11/10) to win the 400 metres and Makhloufi's a pretty big 10/1 to win what will probably be a tactical 1500 metres.
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Report ThunderRoad August 23, 2015 2:21 PM BST
Lost big money there, but a just result.

Looked beaten all the way to the line too.
Report FredRescue August 23, 2015 2:22 PM BST
Gatlin like a drunk on a Saturday night in the last 10m Scared
Report Degs August 23, 2015 2:22 PM BST
Brilliant. Great day all round.
Report Ibrahima Sonko August 23, 2015 2:23 PM BST
Gatlin bottled it at the end
Report pandora1963 August 23, 2015 2:23 PM BST
wow,gatlin was gagging at the end...desperate stuff
Report Darlo Bantam August 23, 2015 2:23 PM BST
Gaitlin did the opposite of Bolt's semi. Stumbled over the line.
Report alun2005 August 23, 2015 2:23 PM BST
That was a bottle job. Bravo Usain.
Report pandora1963 August 23, 2015 2:23 PM BST
gatlin was flapping about like an amateur flat jockey Laugh
Report ThunderRoad August 23, 2015 2:24 PM BST
Bottled it.

Held his form and he'd have won.
Report Ibrahima Sonko August 23, 2015 2:24 PM BST
Gatlin clearly didnt stay the trip
Report FredRescue August 23, 2015 2:25 PM BST
Wish Gatlin had won to shut these sycophantic BBC commentators up
Report johnnyrant August 23, 2015 2:26 PM BST
Great champions rise to the occasion. Ennis & Bolt a great value double Cool
Report FredRescue August 23, 2015 2:26 PM BST
The "right result" Scared
Report attitude adjuster August 23, 2015 2:27 PM BST
Gatlin just ran out of juice PlainTongue Out
Report pandora1963 August 23, 2015 2:27 PM BST
dont see the problem with them praising a great champion fredrescue, what would you rather they said??
Report Angel Gabrial August 23, 2015 2:27 PM BST
The problem with drugs is that you end up hearing voices.
Report FredRescue August 23, 2015 2:27 PM BST
Bolt did not rise to the occasion at all. These commentators have lost the plot. Gatlin bottled it pure and simple. All he had to do was run like he had the last 2 years and he would have won by a metre
Report FredRescue August 23, 2015 2:27 PM BST
Bolt did not rise to the occasion at all. These commentators have lost the plot. Gatlin bottled it pure and simple. All he had to do was run like he had the last 2 years and he would have won by a metre
Report FredRescue August 23, 2015 2:27 PM BST
Bolt did not rise to the occasion at all. These commentators have lost the plot. Gatlin bottled it pure and simple. All he had to do was run like he had the last 2 years and he would have won by a metre
Report Angel Gabrial August 23, 2015 2:30 PM BST
Rise to the occasion = produce your best. This is Bolts best right now.
Report Darlo Bantam August 23, 2015 2:31 PM BST

Aug 23, 2015 -- 2:25PM, FredRescue wrote:


Wish Gatlin had won to shut these sycophantic BBC commentators up


Not that Brendan Foster was happy:

https://twitter.com/paulajradcliffe/status/635443972400390144

Report Hamsterdam August 23, 2015 2:35 PM BST
Running 9.7 is all well and good but if you can't do it when you are under pressure it don't count for shyte. This is sport ladies and gentleman.
Report brendanuk1 August 23, 2015 2:36 PM BST
Gaitlin threw it, at least the fans have a nice ending
Report ThunderRoad August 23, 2015 2:38 PM BST

Aug 23, 2015 -- 2:30PM, Angel Gabrial wrote:


Rise to the occasion = produce your best. This is Bolts best right now.


Exactly.

That's why I've got to give Bolt so much credit. He ran the perfect race and ran to his absolute best right now.

Report Angel Gabrial August 23, 2015 2:39 PM BST
If Gaitlin was a horse they would say 'Gaitlin worried out of it'
Report FredRescue August 23, 2015 2:41 PM BST
Bolt ran a good race no doubt. Great start from him and well ahead of Gatlin. Would have expected him Bolt to run away with it from there.

Gatlin hauled him in easily though and then just threw it away.
Report Shrewd_dude August 23, 2015 2:42 PM BST
It's called a final for a reason. Doesn't matter a didgery if you don't bring your A game when it matters most. Bolt did Gatlin didnt.
Report CLYDEBANK29 August 23, 2015 2:43 PM BST
Into a headwind.  think it was -0.7 m/s or thereabouts.  Windspeed adjusted I reckon that's probably the fastest race of all time, taking the average of the first 8 home.
Report ThunderRoad August 23, 2015 2:47 PM BST

Aug 23, 2015 -- 2:43PM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:


Into a headwind.

Report ThunderRoad August 23, 2015 2:47 PM BST

Aug 23, 2015 -- 2:43PM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:


Into a headwind.

Report ThunderRoad August 23, 2015 2:48 PM BST
No way; 2009 100 metre final was quicker on average
Report CLYDEBANK29 August 23, 2015 2:50 PM BST
Gatlin had the fastest following wind in both his heat and his semi.  Wind adjusted he was a good tenth quicker in the final than the semi.
Report CLYDEBANK29 August 23, 2015 2:54 PM BST
2009 final was slower on average wind adjusted.  Obv not Bolt, but every other runner was quicker in this
Report FredRescue August 23, 2015 2:54 PM BST
Gatlin was walking in the earlier rounds so no surprise.
Report FredRescue August 23, 2015 2:55 PM BST
Tyson Gay ran 9.71 in 2009. Not sure he was faster today Scared
Report CLYDEBANK29 August 23, 2015 3:01 PM BST
9.8 (Gatlin)WITH A -0.7 headwind(if it is confirmed) is better than 9.71 with a 0.9 following wind.  Adjusted it's roughly 9.745 compared to 9.785
Report FredRescue August 23, 2015 3:07 PM BST
So basically Gatlin is the fastest man that ever lived because he fecked up the start, middle and finish of the race and still ran a time of 9.745 removing wind affects?
Report trilby22 August 23, 2015 3:44 PM BST
Bolt won?  Amazing scenes, Bruce!
Report trilby22 August 23, 2015 3:47 PM BST
He certainly did.  My bank's been credited with the 3.65 I took him at.

Lost my bet on a new world record being set tho.

Alle ist Gute Happy
Report ilikewavingatbuses August 23, 2015 4:16 PM BST
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Bolt ran a good race no doubt. Great start from him and well ahead of Gatlin. Would have expected him Bolt to run away with it from there.

Gatlin hauled him in easily though and then just threw it away.

I've read some bo!!ocks on this forum but.... Laugh


Bolt is the fast man to ever live, Usain Bolt is on another planet mentally as well as physically to all the other athletes.
Report FredRescue August 23, 2015 4:32 PM BST
Bolt had the faster start and Gatlin bottled the finish, yet you claim Bolt was faster in the middle of the race

Think about it while you are waving at buses Crazy
Report trilby22 August 23, 2015 4:37 PM BST
ilikewavingatbuses NAILS it when he writes Bolt has the MENTAL edge.

It's all about CROSSING THE LINE!
Report trilby22 August 23, 2015 4:40 PM BST
"bottled the finish" - not seen the race yet, but what a strange statement.

How can one "bottle" an achievement?
Report trilby22 August 23, 2015 4:41 PM BST
^ for what it's worth ... I like Finnish birds.
Report trilby22 August 23, 2015 4:42 PM BST
^^ especially this time of year when they're a wee bit suntanned.
Report FredRescue August 23, 2015 4:44 PM BST
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"bottled the finish" - not seen the race yet, but what a strange statement.


You haven't seen the race but you think it is a strange description of what happened in the race? CrazyConfused
Report CLYDEBANK29 August 23, 2015 4:50 PM BST
Bolt was ahead before the lean.  Don't think the lean cost him any time as the margin of victory was only 0.01 secs and with the naked eye it looked bigger.  Even on the freeze frame it looks about 0.03 secs  As for the start, Bolt didn't mess up. Gatlin didn't either.  They were virtually neck and neck over the first 30-40 metres just like 2013.
Report CLYDEBANK29 August 23, 2015 4:55 PM BST
Gatlin was ahead at 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 metres 80 and 90 it closed slightly and in the last 10 Bolt went ahead
Report CLYDEBANK29 August 23, 2015 5:03 PM BST
With the over head shots she can see who is first to each of the 10 metres marks on the track.  You can't tell with the side view shots and the BBC line that someone drew across the runners on a freezed shot wasn't straight.  It was bias to lane 1
Report ThunderRoad August 24, 2015 9:52 AM BST
Few extra bets.

Dafne Schippers @ 12/1 in the Women's 100 metres - very overpriced.

Amel Tuka @ 6/4 in the men's 800 metres. Will have too many gears for Rotich & Rudisha in what will likely be a tactical race.
Report CLYDEBANK29 August 24, 2015 1:18 PM BST
Schiffers running very well.  Got the worst possible lane draw in the final, although she always comes from behind so mebbe it won't bother her
Report ThunderRoad August 24, 2015 1:44 PM BST
Still 10/1. Will struggle to beat the wee Jamaican, but will medal minimum.
Report CLYDEBANK29 August 24, 2015 2:09 PM BST
lol at that.  American girl put her hands up to celebrate 3rd and her team mate came through to catch her on the line
Report ThunderRoad August 24, 2015 2:39 PM BST
Schippers slept. Would've won with a decent start.
Report CLYDEBANK29 August 24, 2015 2:58 PM BST
The others will have to go some to catch Schippers in the 200m
Report jed.davison August 24, 2015 3:25 PM BST
This is some 400m. Would have thought they'll have to run 43.7 to win it, although one can never be sure how much two rounds, especially two rounds as quick as these have been, will take out of them.
Report Zazu August 24, 2015 7:13 PM BST
I'd take any price I could get that 6 or more of the 400m finalists has used PEDs
Report jed.davison August 24, 2015 7:42 PM BST
Sadly zazu, so would I.
Report mafeking August 25, 2015 1:27 PM BST
comedy long jump final going on. no jumps galore and rutherford just about the only one of the main contenders to register any sort of decent jump. odds on favourite among those to have an absolute mare
Report Zazu August 25, 2015 1:28 PM BST
All going off in the long jump. Rutherford should waltz to victory now, 4 medal hopes including fav didn't make it into the second round Laugh
Report scandanavian_haven August 25, 2015 1:41 PM BST
If one of the Chinese jumpers gets it right then could jump further
Report ThunderRoad August 25, 2015 1:43 PM BST
1.57 for the last 800 metres there.

Absolutely insane.
Report mafeking August 25, 2015 1:44 PM BST
should be GSM rutherford with that jump
Report guinness2dear August 25, 2015 1:45 PM BST
Steve Cramp done his nuts there...
Report The Leopard August 25, 2015 2:09 PM BST
Greg just stole a handful of sand.....is this going to be Bobby Moore all over again ??
Report alun2005 August 25, 2015 2:15 PM BST
Well done Greg.

I'm sure that big companies all around the world will be looking to sign him up for lucrative endorsements after yet another major championship Gold Medal. Right?

I'm personally hoping against hope to see him being given the chance by the Beeb to earn some decent wedge on a "The Great British Celebrity Bake-Off Special" or similar.
Report Zazu August 25, 2015 2:49 PM BST
Think he should just count himself lucky to make any kind of living by jumping into a pit of sand

Rudisha cruises to the 800. Was already spending my tuka winnings Cry
Report theres only one best tonic August 25, 2015 2:51 PM BST
Greg is surely on the BBCs wish list for Strictly just after Justin Gatlin
Report scandanavian_haven August 26, 2015 2:05 PM BST
Does anyone think Bolt doesn't quite like the BBC, when I've seen his interviews he's looking left and right and giving fairly short answers, maybe he doesn't like the pressure they put on with the whole "bolt needs to win to save his sport" thing.
Report GoBallistic August 26, 2015 2:06 PM BST
Ethopian refuses at the water jump Grin
Report guinness2dear August 26, 2015 2:07 PM BST
He's more than likely just thinking about the 6 blonde models waiting for him back at the hotel...
Report casemoney August 26, 2015 2:38 PM BST
What price was 400 winner ?
Report guinness2dear August 26, 2015 2:39 PM BST
2s
Report eyeball August 26, 2015 2:49 PM BST
2/1 pp early , bet him 13/8 after semi , may have been a bit of 7/4
Report jed.davison August 26, 2015 2:58 PM BST
Fantastic race, best 400m race ever probably. Another convicted doper in the frame........
Report casemoney August 26, 2015 3:06 PM BST
Took off Eye Grin
Report eyeball August 26, 2015 3:08 PM BST
makes a change , case Laugh
Report casemoney August 26, 2015 3:12 PM BST
Laugh U aint wrong mate Sad
Report ThunderRoad August 26, 2015 3:38 PM BST

Aug 26, 2015 -- 2:58PM, jed.davison wrote:


Fantastic race, best 400m race ever probably. Another convicted doper in the frame........


To be fair to the lad, the stuff he took was only to make his junk larger.

Report FredRescue August 27, 2015 1:51 PM BST
BBC commentators creaming themselves over Felxi run.....

2 whole seconds slower than WR ExcitedConfused
Report guinness2dear August 27, 2015 2:28 PM BST
Christine Ohuruogu can now concentrate on her WWE career...
Report jed.davison August 27, 2015 2:51 PM BST
fredrescue, the women's sprint records up to the 400m are the elephant in Athletics' room.

100m, 200m, 400m all set by obvious dopers.

The fact is that Alyson Felix has achieved something amazing this afternoon, and the people in the comms box are entitled to be jumping up and down about it - especially because they are all aware as ex-athletes how utterly bogus the record is.
Report jed.davison August 27, 2015 3:01 PM BST
Of the fifteen fastest times ever recorded for the women's 400m, only two were achieved post-1990.

Of the fifteen fastest times ever recorded for the women's 200m, only four were achieved post-1990, one of which was by Marion Jones - who despite her period of imprisonment, never failed a drugs test.

The 100m record is the most tainted of them all, Flo-Jo's time is .15 faster than any other woman has run. Flo-Jo is dead, at 38, a fate not uncommon among people who have spent a large period of time pumping themselves full of steroids.
Report The Leopard August 27, 2015 3:15 PM BST
Wiki : (Flo-Jo)

In 1988, Joaquim Cruz, the Brazilian gold medalist in the 800-meter run at the 1984 Summer Olympics, claimed that Griffith Joyner's times could only have been the result of using steroids or other performance-enhancing drugs, that her physique had changed dramatically in 1988 (showing marked gains in muscle mass and definition), and that her performance had improved dramatically over a short period of time.[13] Before the 1988 track and field season, Griffith Joyner's best time in the 100-meter sprint was 10.96 seconds. In 1988, she improved that by 0.47 seconds (or 0.35 sec for the non-wind-aided time). Similarly, her best before 1988 at 200-meters was 21.96 seconds. In 1988, she improved that by 0.62 seconds to 21.34 seconds, another time that has not been approached. Prior to the Olympic games in Seoul, she prematurely cut her European tour short (she had been booed off the track by the spectators).[citation needed] Griffith Joyner attributed the change in her physique to new health programs.[14] Al Joyner replaced Bob Kersee as her coach, and he changed her training program to include more lower body strength training exercises such as squats and lunges.[15]

A former teammate of Griffith Joyner named Darrell Robinson admitted that he sold HGH to her in 1988; he also claimed to receive steroids from coach Bob Kersee, and said he saw Carl Lewis inject himself with drugs he believed to be testosterone.[16]

Robinson says that Griffith Joyner asked him about both steroids and the price of HGH during a practice session on UCLA's track in early 1988. Robinson, who admits to having sold such substances, says he told Griffith Joyner that HGH was "$2,000 for 10 c.c."

A few days later, Robinson says, Griffith Joyner came to him with "twenty $100 bills" and told him, "if you want to make $1 million, you've got to invest some thousands." Robinson says he delivered the HGH to Griffith Joyner soon after that.[17]

Griffith Joyner retired from competitive track and field after her Olympic triumph in 1988.[18] She was repeatedly tested during competition, and she did not fail any of these drug tests.[19] Mandatory random out-of-competition drug testing came into effect during the 1989 season.[20]

After her death in 1998, Prince Alexandre de Merode, the Chairman of the International Olympic Committee's medical commission, claimed that Joyner was singled out for extra, rigorous drug testing during the 1988 Olympic Games because of rumors of steroid use. De Merode told The New York Times that Manfred Donike, who was at that time considered to be the foremost expert on drugs and sports, failed to discover any banned substances during that testing.[21] De Merode later said:

"We performed all possible and imaginable analyses on her. We never found anything. There should not be the slightest suspicion."[22]
Report Degs August 27, 2015 3:20 PM BST
Flo-Jo's 10.49 should be ignored anyway, as it's pretty certain the wind gauge was faulty and the wind that day in other events was about 4-5 m/s, more than double the allowable.
Report scandanavian_haven August 27, 2015 4:38 PM BST
^not to mention the wind clearly blowing her hair all over the place after the race, the commentators even said before they set their feet in the blocks that any time wouldn't count because of the wind, can't believe that record hasn't been scrapped
Report CLYDEBANK29 August 28, 2015 2:07 PM BST
Should be a WR there by Schippers
Report jed.davison August 28, 2015 2:18 PM BST
Exactly, criminal how Jones's times are allowed to stand as well as Flo-Jo's.
Report guinness2dear August 28, 2015 2:21 PM BST
Another honky goes in....
Report alun2005 August 28, 2015 2:36 PM BST
Can the popular Geordie Tiff Porter land the gold for Britain now in the hurdles ?
Report alun2005 August 28, 2015 2:38 PM BST
What rotten luck for the bonny lass. Edged out of it. Let's hope she gets a fantastic and well-deserved reception in the North-East when she gets back home.
Report theres only one best tonic August 28, 2015 2:51 PM BST
She reminded me of that other Geordie icon Gazza with the way she staggered and stumbled across the line
Report alun2005 August 28, 2015 3:14 PM BST
Alarming wasn't it TOOBC?  What we needed there was a Lineker type person at the finish line to pull a weird grimacing face, pointing at his own eyes, in the direction of the camera. But sadly none came.

Fingers crossed the Young Geordie Heroine will get over this defeat and not make any tuneless rap records.
Report A_T August 29, 2015 11:24 AM BST
Makhloufi a great bet for the 1500 tomorrow - cue lots of righteous indignation from Steve Cram.
Report theres only one best tonic August 29, 2015 11:49 AM BST
I understand Ms Porter has flown back to Newcastle to take her place in the back four for todays tear up against Arsenal

A Geordie till she dies
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! August 29, 2015 12:28 PM BST
Mo to do the DOUBLE

Unless they TRIP him up

Laugh
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! August 29, 2015 12:45 PM BST
Mo TRIUMPHS again

FANTASTIC

Cool
Report The Leopard August 29, 2015 1:05 PM BST
Christ.....I missed it !
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y August 29, 2015 2:25 PM BST
what a top class prick that Kilty lad is Plain
Report Degs August 29, 2015 2:31 PM BST
Kilty does come across that way, but tbf, he was making this point back in may ..

.http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/may/08/richard-kilty-world-relays-olympic-games-rio-hits-out-british-gb-commitment

"Kilty fears that unless the squad commit to racing more together they “could struggle massively” when it really matters at this year’s world championships and next year’s Olympics."
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