Kids Company - Camila Batmanghelidjh

kenny man?

They appear to have been applying the same socialist economics as Greece. Keep splurging it out, the money will come from somewhere.

Kenny's far too sensible and noble to get on Question Time...

true!

Forgive me for repeating something what I wrote on the Politics forum yesterday about this saga….


A hypothetical question.

Would a generation of fawning, idiotically gullible, wannabe 'progressive'/'inclusive' politicians, and easily-impressed media luvvies have rushed to lionize (and throw taxpayers money at) a company that called itself The UK Children's Support Organisation, if the public face of the company had been a British-born, white, 40-something man with a successful business background who wore a suit and tie? 

Personally I'd guess NO. More likely such a man would be investigated by the Paedo Squad.

I’m not one for wage caps etc as a rule but I do think when it comes charities they should be under greater scrutiny than other companies with strict limits salaries and ‘consultancy fees’.

here's another article.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/society/11717413/Kids-Company-Did-good-PR-mask-deeper-failings.html

yep, they just gave money away.

90k a year

walofs

http://www.spaldingtoday.co.uk/news/latest-news/i-just-want-my-200-000-donat...

An incredible article that. Which 'starving children' exactly?  Obviously not in the UK.

given £3m then close the doors and shut it down a week later - that takes some front!

I like that article Dstyle. Now where else have I heard of someone in charge handing out other people's money like confetti to the feckless who don't give a tom t1t for the rest of society?
Oh yes, G. Brown for starters.

So whats happened to the £3million. Surely must have reapid it all with them closing down dont yer think

Meanwhile the govt is pursuing someone who owes them £7k for overpaid tax credits. It started off at only 1.5k but the punitive interest rate has pushed it higher due to their inability to pay.Told to me by a tax credit operator who is disgusted with UK govt.

ok, post some proof ?

Newsnight now.

krist she can rabbit

She must eat and eat and do no exercise !

A cake for the homeless waif....a cake for me.....hmmmmmm

A cake for the drug dealer, down on his luck.....a cake for me.....hmmmmmmm

when's QT back Leop ?

BBC Question Time @bbcquestiontime
And that's it until we return on September 17th. Apply to be in our audience here.

^ Your Google broke?

newsnight have very weak evidence

too lazy

seemed a rather racist company

sad day for the local weed sellers.

innit just

Kids were arriving in cars being told to give a sob story and getting bunged £100

Happening over and over.

If (and im not suggesting for 1 moment she has) had her hand in the till as well as the cookie jar I can just see the headlines:

Batman
accused of
Robin

She would make a very good politician ,not me gov im covered in teflon, nothing to see here move along.

apparently some of the 'kids' that were being helped there were 24 years old

Dave says it was the right decision to give them another 3m of our money.  Would have been better off sticking it on a moneytree tip

She must have a serious psychological problem to keep eating to what looks like 22 stones.

she cares about people ... she's got a family of immigrants living in her frock ... and small child in hat.

This mess just shows why we should always be sceptical about sentimental argument staking precedence over basic common sense, the politicians and media fell for her apparent sincerity but ignored her managerial ineptitude. And now we move onto Corbynmania.

Looks like they spent £1.2 million in the last week
Taxpayers monies gone west

Thank heaven they werent called Senior Citizens
Would have been billions

Batmanjellyarse now being grilled by MPs

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-34536992

the slimy Yentob also going through it

I was raised to never trust a fat person.

Just need to raid her fridge and food cupboards to find out where all the money's gone.

Has anyone ever seen her & diane abbott in the same room?

it would be difficult to get in that room I would've thought.

kids given £100 a week to pay off their drug dealers????

private school fees paid for the children of all the staff at Kids Company?????

Anyone who helps out at a charity or voluntary organisation must be speechless - most struggle to get a pittance in funding whilst the government throws millions at this bunch of inept clowns

rotten to the core

Has any 'progressive' MP yet asked how the poor drug dealers are managing to get by, now that one of their usual solid reliable cash-cows has gone?

The bbc news report on this is gone.

I went for news, didnt find it, went for uk news didnt find it, went for english news and not found it.

Did this big news story happen in the last week ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34535954

it is still there

Just for the record - wouldn't.

Just Checking    15 Oct 15 23:07 
Just for the record - wouldn't.

Just googled the BBC news link above

'Suicide attempts' since Kids Company closure - that's the headline. Now that's a slanted headline

Deselect Danczuk MP ‏@BankersDidIt  2h2 hours ago
Kids Company alleged paid a Harley Street doctor thousands of pounds to treat a relative of Batmanghelidjh’s  **chauffeur**

:Yentob #BBC

1.01 will all be covered up without principals being brought to book.

The Parliamentary Committee that met a few days ago should be demanding all historic accounting data from this rancid business as a MINIMUM requirement, and Government accounting bods subjecting it to full forensic audit.

Collapsed charity Kids Company received at least £46m of public money despite repeated concerns about how it was run, the National Audit Office has found.

The NAO reported that the charity for vulnerable children repeatedly received grants after claiming it faced closure.

The charity received twice the funding of any other charity in 2011, and officials relied on its own assessments to check performance, the report said.

Former bosses at the charity deny it was financially mismanaged.

Ex-Children's Minister Tim Loughton, a Conservative, said he warned against giving a "very sizeable" grant to Kids Company in 2012, but said the charity appeared able to "mesmerise" people into giving it "special treatment".

The charity - which was founded by Camila Batmanghelidjh and provided support to deprived and vulnerable children in London, Liverpool and Bristol - closed in August.

The NAO found it received public funding for at least 15 years, with at least £42m provided in government grants, including £28m from the Department for Education (DfE) and its predecessors.

It also received about £2m from councils and £2m from the National Lottery.

Key findings
In 2008, Kids Company received 20% of the Department for Education's grant programme

From 2011-2013 it received twice as much in grants than national children's charity Barnardo's

Kids Company had not been required to compete for its annual grant since 2013

Until 2013, the government relied "heavily" on the charity's own self-assessments to monitor its performance

Inland Revenue wrote off the charity's tax debts of £590,000 in 2003

thats a whole lot of brass  that has magically dissappeared .
No doubt all above board and to good causes tho.

How are the poor dealers in London going to manage now?

"Camila Batmanghelidjh"
God she's hot ...love the clothes (and hat) she wears - Gissa Job

Come on guys, be fair.
It's only tax payers money that would otherwise be wasted on other things ... poor, sick etc.

And they wonder why we have a booming black economy - I don't - why pay tax when this happens, I say.

£46 million WOW!!!

best scams ponzis are by people in your face,high media profile

The apparent ease with which she achieved charitable status and milked the government of taxpayers money makes me wonder how many more are at it.

will she be facing charges ?

Apparently usual local stats show no change in drug taking, crime, school attendance etc etc etc - so 45 mil wasted but then if you saw what area you would understand why.  So what did that money actually do then.?

she spent it on food and tents

well she wears a tent so therefore the taxpayer has got value for money !

I'd say a lot of the charity's are on the fiddle. Here in ireland we have had our fair share of corrupt charity's. The problem with charity's it is so open to corruption. They are less likely to be taken to task. One charity here in ireland the ceo was on 200k a year. Scandalous.

Someone (can't remember who )has requested a freedom of information re the BBC children in need charity.If any money has been funnelled from this to Kids Company expect Yentob to fall on his sword.

Program on about the london marathon a while back. Some of the stuff was shocking. Concern's ceo i think is on a hugh salary. Alot of charity's espically the one's where they have people canvassing on the street are taken up on admin fees. Only charity's i give to are one's where you know where the money ends up.  The bigger the charity the bigger the admin and gravy boat imo.

She's obviously a power dresser and that gettup has amazing persuasive abilities.

Next time I've a job interview or I'm chatting up a hottie, I'm going to be wearing a suit just like hers.

She's applied to the BBC for a job as a Test Card

No doubt the good lady will explain all on 'Camila's Kids Company' BBC1 9:00pm

Thaws frozen hamburgers under her Armpits ,by all accounts .

Pmsl @ Crystal

I reckon she has sucked Camerons cxck ,in fact sucked plenty of tory Cox they kept sending Money ..

"Thaws frozen hamburgers under her Armpits ,by all accounts" .

Think I'll give the hotdog a miss then!!!!

Will she go to prison, as we would, if we done the same thing ?

Anyone else watching this TV programme about her?

Delusional, law-breaking, dangerous 'cult of personality' borderline psychopath.

I thought The Establishment had 'learned lessons' after it was sucked in by Jimmy Saville and his flamboyant persona

Yep

delusional god complex and fraud on a massive scale

should be in jail

say what you like but shes got a phucking lovely body

stretch knew

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I know; you would..

A big Batman Basterd bet she puts a bit of grub away

The trustees, led by Yentob, have overseen this charade and must never be allowed to be involved with a charity again. Chauffeur driven, mansion dwelling Camilla has rewritten the stupidity manual whilst building an incredibly lavish lifestyle. As for her swimming pool, well she aint gonna fit in a bath.

Why isn't this a fraud matter?  Why is it being brushed under the carpet?

"I can understand Dave being "mesmerised". If I ever saw it in the flesh I'd be aghast and dumbfounded"
Well Dave (reputedly ) did a pigs head ...BatManJelly a big improvement on that ...

Java    04 Feb 16 09:31 
Why isn't this a fraud matter?  Why is it being brushed under the carpet?

Was thinking exactly the same.

I'm quite the fan of the BBC but they didn't come out of this documentary smelling of roses.

Never mind the p1ss-poor performance of Yentob, what about data protection and privacy laws relating to on air disclosures about donations from celebrity patrons?

As for the woman herself, you wouldn't put her in charge of a tombola stall at a village fete.

handy for the bunting mind

^^^^

Guardian : by Sam Wollaston :

‘This is the cause of all my problems, my Miss Piggy bag,” says Camila Batmanghelidjh, holding up her pink shopping bag in the back of a Toyota Prius, outside the smart Kids Company head offices in London. “Everyone thinks that just because I wear funny clothes and I have a Miss Piggy bag that I must be unable to run a business.”

Or they might think: that’s not a Miss Piggy at all, and anyone who doesn’t know the difference between Miss Piggy and Peppa Pig shouldn’t be running a children’s charity. Or, they might even think that neither the funny clothes, nor the bag, nor the identity of the pig is the issue here; it’s not about Miss Piggy at all, it’s about mismanagement, misjudgment and the misuse of donations and government money.

Last summer, film-maker Lynn Alleway was invited by Kids Company founder Camila B to follow her around. Which, given what was about to happen, was like an invitation, on the evening of 14 April 1912, to the bridge of the Titanic. The result, Camila’s Kids Company: The Inside Story (BBC One), is an extraordinary film. I’ve read the papers and watched Newsnight and everything, but this is a different view. It is – as it says on the tin – the inside story; it’s damning, but also, weirdly, a little bit vindicatory.

So we see Laurence, head of communications, communicating muddled messages. “Don’t mention – in fact, don’t even respond to – financial mismanagement,” he advises Camila. “Unless you’re asked.” What, don’t answer the question, unless it’s asked? Then there’s Tony the chauffeur, with his kids at private school. Except he’s not a chauffeur (although he certainly looks like one to me, driving Camila around, in a car), because there’s the other driver who is paid £30-40,000 a yea ... shhhh, keep quiet about that. And Annie, 34, who has been entirely dependent on Kids Company for years. And the swimming pool (OK, not such a big one, but undeniably a swimming pool), and the pomegranates in the bowl, and the massive telly in the lovely art deco house for disadvantaged children – and for Camila when she fancies a swim, or possibly a pomegranate.

To claim that there’s no mismanagement there is bonkers, and you can feel Alleway’s growing frustration, disappointment and sadness behind the camera as she starts to lose faith in her subject, a woman she has filmed before and whom she clearly admires.

But – and it’s a big but – however bonkers and badly run Kids Company was, it’s hard not to admire and support the idea behind it: to bring the love of a family to troubled lives. Nor is Camila’s motivation in question – she’s trying to do the right thing by the kids. And on an individual level it works, it can change lives for the better. Such as Chesney’s, who is doing so much better than she would be without Kids Company help. Annie, too, clearly needs help, even if it shouldn’t come from a children’s charity. And driver/non-driver Tony’s kids ... no, I’m not sure they (or anybody’s, including the PM’s) really need to go to private school. And as for the giant tellies and the pomegranates, well, who determines what screen size is appropriate to people of what circumstances, or who gets to eat pomegranates?

I was left sharing Alleway’s sadness, because the ideas behind Kids Company are ones you hope could work. And feeling that although Camila and the charity did a lot of things wrong, they also did a hell of a lot of things right. For the people who matter most.

Miss Piggy.....that has a certain ring to it !

Comments can be seen here :
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http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/feb/04/camilas-kids-company-the-inside-story-review-both-damning-and-vindicatory

Is she fool or knave? I don't know but Mother Theresa didn't need affectations. In fact she lived the life down in the gutters if that was what was required. If Batman were some kind of con woman extraordinaire it would have been the perfect plan. Dress up in Joseph's amazing technicolour coat and stick a pineapple on your head. The bigger the lie. The more likely it is to be believed. The bigger the con. The more likely you are to succeed if you put it on full public view. Maybe helping others is the best way of helping yourself. I simply don't know about her.

Once again it brings into focus how bad government are at allocating resources and picking winners.

Holy wowsers batman, your reputation is gone, and to make matters worse, here's an irate old adversary charidee sceptic man and four henchmen....

KABOOM, POW, PITLIFT, WHIFF, KADOWN, WHERESAWONGA, TENTRIP....

TORYCOPS, KADAMMIT, VANISHO.

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This did make me smile/laugh/fall of my chair!

Has the United Nations stepped in yet to declare this company free of any malpractice?

They need the money. Guardian prints the truth, not like your rabid Daily Mail, Alun !

The publisher of the Guardian newspaper is drawing up plans to axe jobs and slash spending as it heads for another annual loss of about £40million.

The newspaper – and its Sunday sister title the Observer – are part of Guardian Media Group and ultimately owned by the Scott Trust, which exists to support the Guardian in perpetuity.

Both the present editor of the Guardian, Katharine Viner, and her predecessor Alan Rusbridger are on the Trust’s board, with Rusbridger set to become chairman next year.

The losses expected in the year to the end of March next year are due to heavy investment in digital media operations and a sharp fall in advertising income which has affected the title, said sources close to the company.

GMG chief executive David Pemsel is drawing up redundancy plans that will apply across the group and not just in editorial. These are expected to be finalised in the New Year. A source said: ‘A savings plan is being considered, but the headcount numbers have not yet been finalised. GMG is looking at a reduction in headcount as a way of contributing to savings.’

GMG is understood to be on course to spend £70million this year and up to £90million next year on expanding the Guardian’s online service in the UK, US and Australia. Digital revenue at Guardian News & Media, GMG’s key news division, was £82.1million last year.

However, it is not thought to make a profit on its digital operations. Suggestions that it might introduce some kind of paywall for its online site are understood to be wide of the mark.

The division made operating losses of £19.1million this year. GMG’s total operating losses were £45million. The group also owns a third of Top Right Group, the magazine publisher formerly known as Emap.

Last year GMG sold its majority stake in Trader Media Group, publisher of Auto Trader, for about £650million.


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Ignore first line too. I have no connection to the Mail or any other newspaper.

I'd happily pay them £10 a month instead of 5 IF there journalism was indeed 'fearless and independent'.

*their