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pawras
30 Jul 15 13:44
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/11772741/Air-passenger-suing-for-a-back-injury-caused-by-sitting-next-to-obese-man.html

Whether it's luggage or people, weight is weight as far as fuel costs are concerned, so I think a ticket weight allowance that covers both you and your luggage would be much fairer.

Yes plane seats are small, take it up with the airline, but don't think you can spill your lard over onto others , buy two seats you blimp!
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Report therhino July 30, 2015 1:46 PM BST
What about tall people? Should they have to pay more?
Report pawras July 30, 2015 1:49 PM BST
depends how much they weigh or if they expect to take up more one seat
Report Dotchinite July 30, 2015 1:50 PM BST
Charging fat people more could be considered racist against americans.
Report paulypaul July 30, 2015 1:51 PM BST
I agree. Nothing worse than sitting next to a great big fatty in economy. In fact last year I flew Premium economy and the fatty next to me was still too close and stank of BO(that was even worse)
People who smell, should not be allowed on until they have had a wash and used some deoderant. It's disgusting, he may well have just sh*t himself it was that bad. I asked to move after a quiet word with a crew member, lucky there was a spare seat or I would have made a fuss to get into upper.
I know thin people can smell but fat or smelly, get 'em off the flight!
Report xmoneyx July 30, 2015 2:01 PM BST
air crash investigation

National Geographic

plane in states crashed a few years ago because of overweight passengers
Report pawras July 30, 2015 2:11 PM BST
To reduce costs/increase profits airlines put any more fuel in planes than they have to, it’s all calculated re the expected passenger and luggage weight and the weight of the fuel they need to carry. Therefore if there’s fuel at the destination point the plane will only carry fuel to get to that point plus a certain contingency.
Report GoBallistic July 30, 2015 2:21 PM BST
Pretty sure Ryanair would have done this by now if it was legal.  In the same way, air hostesses are getting larger and larger but there doesn't seem to be much the airlines can do about it
Report HH Sultan Vinegar July 30, 2015 2:21 PM BST
Could be a niche opportunity there, eg Lard-Air™, an airline which specialises in flying salad dodgers.
Cake, pies etc. served throughout the flight.
Report pawras July 30, 2015 2:35 PM BST
They can limit your luggage and/or make you pay more for excess, so if they introduced a generic weight allowance covering the passenger and their luggage, would that be illegal???
Report ThommosBucket July 30, 2015 2:42 PM BST
Reckon it would be a good idea to do what they do at the boxing when one of them doesn't make the weight - get them to strip down to their Reg Grundys and sweat off a few pounds  - check in would be much more entertaining.
Report Zazu July 30, 2015 2:46 PM BST
He already had a preexisting back injury. Would be a lot easier just to stop disabled people flying imo

I don't see why everyone complains about fat people. I'm skinny and 6ft 4 and can only afford economy. Leg room on 95% of flights is a pisss take. THIS is the real issue!
Report HH Sultan Vinegar July 30, 2015 2:51 PM BST
these two munters have been in the news today after flying round the world "on benefits."
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6565438/Around-the-world-in-80-claims.html

Wouldn't fancy having these two either side on a flight. The dark haired one I'm sure used to play loose head for Samoa.
Report ThommosBucket July 30, 2015 2:52 PM BST
That is a disgrace HH - she was tight head.
Report pawras July 30, 2015 2:52 PM BST
simple, when I've paid for my seat, I don't want some fat fk spilling over into the space I've paid for, if they won't control their food in take that's their problem and they should pay for a space suitable for their bulk

if people want more legroom in economy this will equate to higher prices due to less seats.

I must admit business class can be like another world compared to economy but I'd usually rather splurge more on hotel than a better seat on the plane.
Report pawras July 30, 2015 2:56 PM BST
re  the two fat lemons, if you defraud the taxman you get your assets seized etc so handout fraudsters like that should get the same treatment and/or cut want that get in half until the balance is paid
Report HH Sultan Vinegar July 30, 2015 3:04 PM BST
TB Wink
Report zorrostrikes July 31, 2015 6:32 PM BST
should thin wrinkly men get a life?
Report ThommosBucket July 31, 2015 7:08 PM BST
A few years ago I was flying back from Sri Lanka with BA and was sat next to a bloke who was a bit overweight - not a problem - but smelt like your average wheelie bin after it has been emptied.

Got to the stage where I genuinely thought I was going to throw up every time he moved and wafted in my direction so asked the stewardess  - in the little area where the food is stored, not at the seat - if I could move. Plane was no more than a third full.

Point blank refused as it was "against British Airways policy". Moved anyway and plonked myself down at the back - same class.

Next thing the Captain appeared and asked me what the problem was - explained and he wandered off to do what they used to do in those days, shake a few hands, chat up a few women.

5 minutes later he reappeared and asked me to follow him - upgraded to first class with the comment "it's the least we can do after you had to put up with that stench for the last two hours!". Laugh
Report HH Sultan Vinegar August 5, 2015 10:51 AM BST
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Report The Leopard August 5, 2015 10:58 AM BST
The wife's lost a few pounds, HH !
Report Clouseau August 5, 2015 11:04 AM BST
^^^ Another gratuitous Kim Kardashian photo... Cry
Report HH Sultan Vinegar August 5, 2015 11:32 AM BST
how can you tell if its a him or a her?
Report The Leopard August 5, 2015 2:04 PM BST
The pink edge to the shirt !
Report Aunty Post August 5, 2015 2:31 PM BST
Daughter got next to a fatty on a long haul to Australia.

She was seriously encroaching on her limited space.

Fortunately there was a free seat so she could move.

Question is why, when they know there will be a problem, do they allow it to happen?

Having their weight, plus luggage, wouldn't prevent the problem with seating!
Report Platini August 5, 2015 3:22 PM BST
Fatties and babies should be barred from airlines, or given their own separate airplanes, well the f**k away from the rest of us.
Report Danno August 5, 2015 3:28 PM BST
Baggage rules on planes are ludicrous at the best of times.  As someone who weighs about 10st 12lbs, it seems hugely unfair that I get the same baggage allowance as someone twice my weight, ie, about 70kg more than me (although I guess their clothes are twice the size of mine) Laugh

More daft is the rule on joint baggage.  Me and missus recently flew on SleazyJet and had both paid so that we had a 20kg bag each.  But decided last minute to just use one big bag between us  which weighed 22kg, plus not bother with hand luggage.  They said we'd either have to a) split it into two bags (which is surely more hassle for them to handle), or b) take some out to carry on as hand luggage (ie, exactly the same amount of stuff going on the plane), despite the fact we'd pre-paid for 40kg plus a hand baggage allowance between us.

Totally "computer says no' attitude.  Nobody prepared or allowed to make a common sense call.  Tw@ts.
Report lfc1971 August 5, 2015 3:29 PM BST
How can it be a problem? if someone can fit in their seat how do they encroach beyond the boundaries of their seat and into the aisle or person beside them or out the cabin window...doesn't seem possible.
Report scandanavian_haven August 5, 2015 4:12 PM BST
Very obese people shouldn't be allowed in confined spaces full stop, they tend to have very bad hygiene, being squashed and sat next to a bad odour for  7 hours on a plane is no fun.
Report Aunty Post August 5, 2015 4:23 PM BST
How can it be a problem?

Fat people aren't just fat in there "derriere"!
Report cooperman August 5, 2015 4:52 PM BST
Double seat, double seat, got to get a double seat
Report lfc1971 August 5, 2015 5:01 PM BST
Surely the danger would be if there were no fat people the seats would become correspondingly smaller, resulting in average sized people becoming squeezed as a matter of course and not just when unlucky to be sitting beside someone large.
Report lfc1971 August 5, 2015 5:03 PM BST
It could be argued the very existence of fat people make most of our journeys more pleasant.
Report lfc1971 August 5, 2015 5:05 PM BST
You have to beware of the law of unintended consequensesHappy
Report ThommosBucket August 5, 2015 5:31 PM BST
Undoubtedly preferable to sit next to someone a bit chunky rather than someone who stinks.

Odd excuse for the overweight - no excuse for poor hygiene.
Report GAZO August 5, 2015 5:47 PM BST
would a dwarf get a discount
Report cooperman August 6, 2015 8:52 AM BST
Could be solved by departure staff passing a hula hoop over passengers. If it sticks, you buy two seats.

Report bix August 6, 2015 8:59 AM BST
Fatties often stink because for them bathing and normal hygene is difficult. Wiping their backside is also a problem. A fat mate of mine used to have a problem getting into a normal shower as he was just too wide. Lets face it if you have so little respect for yourself that you let yourself get obese personal hygene is not going to be much of a priority.
Report bix August 6, 2015 11:30 AM BST
Being fat is now so common it seems to have been normalised so perhaps thinner people should get a discount when flying.
Report Aunty Post August 12, 2015 12:17 PM BST
Of course they should.
If they're too fat and wide to be within the confines of they're own seat, why should another passenger suffer?

It would be interesting to have two of them side by side!!!
Would either of them dare to complain?
Report Capt__F August 12, 2015 12:33 PM BST
one either aisle side to counterbalance
Report cooperman August 12, 2015 12:42 PM BST
They start drooling and get excited when the meal trolley arrives, their banana fingers tearing at the packaging like they've been starved. You know if you've anything uneaten they'll ask you for it.
Report mememe August 12, 2015 2:49 PM BST
flew from Bham to Munich a few years ago on a small plane ... 1 seat, aisle, 2 seats.

Evening flight, plenty of space so lots of the double seats taken up by only 1 passenger in each.  I get double seat to myself, happy.  last minute fattie woman waddles on and comes and sits next to me, overfowing into me ... horrible - and hot (in the wrong sense) - miserable 2 hours sat there while this obese woman's arm and thigh pressed against me.
Report Aunty Post August 12, 2015 3:32 PM BST
Should complain every time, and if they don't sort you out on the flight, should certainly get into their ribs afterwards.
Report Gallivanter August 12, 2015 4:39 PM BST
I don't like it when one of the pilots is fat. What if he collapsed over the controls and the little guy next to him couldn't pull the stick back up?
Report Alias August 14, 2015 11:37 AM BST
From his comments, lfc1971 is obviously a fat git who has never flown.
Report Alias August 14, 2015 11:40 AM BST
I once had to endure a guy next to me who sniffed his runny snot up his nose about 3 times per minute on a 3 hour flight. I'd have given anything to swap him for a fatty.
Report bodil August 15, 2015 12:35 AM BST
Yes, you should pay by total weight (you+luggage).
Report timbuctooth August 15, 2015 1:08 AM BST
mememe 12 Aug 15 14:49 
flew from Bham to Munich a few years ago on a small plane ... 1 seat, aisle, 2 seats.
Evening flight, plenty of space so lots of the double seats taken up by only 1 passenger in each.  I get double seat to myself, happy.  last minute fattie woman waddles on and comes and sits next to me, overfowing into me ... horrible - and hot (in the wrong sense) - miserable 2 hours sat there while this obese woman's arm and thigh pressed against me.


Elementary mistake! When you`ve got a row to yourself, but passengers are still getting on, always, ALWAYS  snaffle the aisle seat. Far harder for someone to attempt to clamber over you, than grab the inviting;y open aisle seat. Obviously your baggage should be on the inside seat as well, which puts a stop to any ideas they might have.
Report paddletoe August 15, 2015 1:17 AM BST
Anyone ever put on a pile of extra clothes from your suitcase when it was a few kilo's overweight? I am sure its allowed as I have done but if you were charged per weight of both you and your luggage it would no longer be an option.
Report irishone August 15, 2015 10:10 AM BST
Came out of Bodram late one night, post holiday, flight delayed 4 hours hit the upstairs bar overlooking the departure lounge , like an obese goddess she pushed her twenty stone through the over crowded lounge, tattoos, track suit carrying two points of lager and plonking herself down next to mr fat glum , marbles for an 4rse , cellulite fest. "You see that's whats wrong with airline travel" I said to the missus " ... people that big should have to pay twice the amount for the seat 'cos airine travel is also based on weight and she's never going to get that body into one seat". Four hours later we are on the plane, the window seat is the wife's,  I'm in the middle, next minute I get a tap on the shoulder The jelly pissed specimen of pond life passes me her fully extended seat belt and says "Hold that luv" whilst attempting to wobble herself into the aisle seat next to me. I turned to my wife mortified, she was pi55ing herself laughing. She had to get a seat belt extension eventually. I shut my eyes and fell asleep, on the train home from the airport my wife showed me a mobile photo of my friend with her head on my shoulder mouth wide open sound asleep , I was snoring away apparently, served me right I suppose.
Report irishone August 15, 2015 10:17 AM BST
I was on a flight out of luton with aer aaran . Had an old case , feck all in it except my laptop, smelly pair of socks, skid marked underpants and a bar of soap. Jobsworth says its overweight for "carry on" luggage . I took the computer out and said "Its OK you can keep the rest of that" .

She gave the case straight back to me and let me board with it !
Report lfc1971 August 15, 2015 10:18 AM BST
Happy that's a nice story.
Report lfc1971 August 15, 2015 10:19 AM BST
the first one!
Report timbuctooth August 16, 2015 11:23 AM BST
When flying with an airline that allocates seats, all the sheep will dutifully sit in those seats. But if, as is frequently the case, the plane isn`t full, there will often be rows of empty seats at the back. Lost count of the number of times I`ve taken my shoes off and sprawled myself out across three seats, enabling a decent enough sleep, while rows of seats around me remain empty.
Report Torquemada August 16, 2015 5:15 PM BST
I had a mate who used to shít himself every hour on the hour.  Nightmare flying anywhere with him, sitting between two porkers would be preferable.
Report Torquemada August 16, 2015 5:25 PM BST
Fatties should definitely pay more for fast food, at least three or four times as much.  The price should then reduce on a sliding scale as they slim down.
Report bix August 16, 2015 6:26 PM BST
It's not their fault. It's their genes or glands.
Report irishone August 16, 2015 7:53 PM BST

Aug 16, 2015 -- 6:26PM, bix wrote:


It's not their fault. It's their genes or glands.


.....  agree its not their fault.

..... its the airlines , who have narrow seats , not enough leg room and can't handle oversized people or bags .

If they discriminate against people with heavier baggage then they should also discriminate against heavier customers .

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