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Shouldn't you remove your confederate flag?

Jul 28, 2015 -- 8:18PM, The Leopard wrote:

Shouldn't you remove your confederate flag?

Why?

I have no reason to take my flag down.

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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/22/confederate-flag-south-carolina-charleston

South Carolina governor Nikki Haley on Monday called for a Confederate battle flag that has flown on the statehouse grounds for more than 50 years to be removed, in an abrupt about-face as local protesters and national advocates brought intense pressure to bear on the state to make a concrete gesture of healing after the killing of nine African Americans last week inside a Charleston church.

“We are here in a moment of unity in our state, without ill will, to say it’s time to remove the flag from the capitol grounds,” Haley said, speaking in front of dozens of current and former South Carolina officials. “One hundred and fifty years after the end of the civil war, the time has come.”

The call was met with applause and cheering by the audience, which had listened in silence as Haley described a vision of the state sharply at odds with images broadcast around the world over the last week of tearful mourners and an empty-eyed suspect in chains.

Suddenly a symbol that the Republican governor herself, only days earlier, had said was beyond her power to move seemed to be on the verge of removal by a broad bipartisan consensus that took shape with surprising speed.

Haley, who is Indian-American, made reference to her own race and to that of Tim Scott, the African American junior senator from the state who stood next to her, to say South Carolina had shown its progressiveness. In a separate statement issued later, Scott echoed the governor’s call.

“I do not believe the vast majority of folks who support the flag have hate in their hearts,” Scott said. “Their heritage is a part of our state’s history, and we should not ignore that. However, for so many others in our state, the flag represents pain and oppression.

“Because of that, as a life-long South Carolinian, as someone who loves this state and will never call anywhere else home, I believe it is time for the flag to come down.”

The Guardian ... wow!

Are you a racist?

You are not from the southern states of USA are you?

You ask a lot of questions.

Were the Dukes of Hazards racists?

It's now viewed as like a Nazi Swastica by people of African descent.

Jul 28, 2015 -- 8:40PM, Make my hay wrote:

Were the Dukes of Hazards racists?

They couldn't make that nowadays using that flag.

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^ don't fcuk wid da Duke!

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You have upset my cat.

miaow

I suppose it's seen as a rebel's symbol but it has other meanings for some people.

The Rebel Flag is EXACTLY that to me.

... unlike your picture of something up it's jaxxi.

What is that all about?

That is it's tail....your mind is moving in strange directions

No offence meant but maybe your pu55y should find a better hairdresser?

^ could do with losing a few pounds around the belly too.

He's not mine.....but he's out there somewhere.

Could you keep him south of the Berwick / Carlisle / Border area, please?

We have enough gruesomers north of there an we really don't need any more immigrants,

He's a bit of a free spirit.....better to close your windows

I eat poontang for breakfast!

Fried cat **** is tasty too :)

c0ck

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Where's that cat?

Leopard

There will always be some people offended by something and for sure some people especially blacks won't like the confederate flag but this is part ignorance and part racists wrapping themselves in it. The non racist south and indeed the rest of the country should reclaim it for all rather than seeking to ban it. There really wasn't much between north and south on the issue during the early stages of the war and it became more an issue because of politics rather than race.

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Some parallels with the England flag

Jul 28, 2015 -- 10:19PM, Eeternaloptimist wrote:

LeopardThere will always be some people offended by something and for sure some people especially blacks won't like the confederate flag but this is part ignorance and part racists wrapping themselves in it. The non racist south and indeed the rest of the country should reclaim it for all rather than seeking to ban it. There really wasn't much between north and south on the issue during the early stages of the war and it became more an issue because of politics rather than race.

Well said!

^ Why don't you use the Saltire?

Are you talking to me, TL?

I fly the Saltire, the Union Jack and the Southern Flag all together.

I have guns too

... awaiting an early wake call from the Feds by a humourless snitch ...

j/k, btw

^ apart rom the guns

from ... effin' F key!

Back to OP.

Led Zeppelin were a great band, saw them live twice, Birmingham Town Hall in 1969, and Bath Festival in 1970.
Their first album was mind blowing . Nothing had been heard like it before. It just blew me away !

Trilby's flag image is the second iteration of the Confederate Flag - which is generally know as the "Stainless Banner", or by the man who designed it, as the "White man's flag". 

"As a people we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race......"
April 23rd 1863 William T Thompson Editor Daily Morning News.

In addition to editing the Daily Morning News, Thompson designed this version of the flag.

I can only begin to imagine how good those gigs must have been, Facts.

You're a fortunate son to have experienced them.

Led Zep = greatest band of all time, imho.

... apart from Lynyrd Skynyrd ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGKIX2_ViF8

G'nite y'all

Saw Jimmy Page walking near his house by chance, Melbury Road, Kensington

didn't know he lived there when I saw him,

Night 22, remember, close those windows.

Trilby (and Facts will confirm) Bath was pretty **** as it rained nearly all the time, the bands were 2/3 hours late or had sound problems, or often both. Zeppelin were great though, they turned all the lights out for what seemed like minutes, and then someone said "Led Zeppelin" and all the lights came on as Whole Lotta Love started. I believe it was about 1.15am but cannot be sure.

Facts we should reminisce.  We might have queued together on Castle Cary station - Didnt pick up a brand-new Levi needle-cord blouson jacket did you? cos I'd like it back.

Saw them at Knebworth. Can't remember anything.

Years later met a girl who liked a song of theirs called Thank You, so spent good money on a Led Zep songbook to learn it on the guitar. It worked too, though only once, and I can't remember anything about that either.

I wish I wasn't 53.

Are you sure about your age screaming?

Knebworth was a milestone, because it was the last ridiculous gig involving Boring Old Farts I ever attended. If I wasn't 18 then and it wasn't 1979, then Christ knows what's happened since or how old I am.

This is a new release, just out the other day - an alternate version of When the Levee Breaks recorded before they had the idea of sticking Bonham at the bottom of a staircase.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYsJajRhQCY

Then there's this, an unfinished song called La La, should have been on Led Zep 2 and it would have been about a thousand times than the god awful Livin Lovin Maid, in fact better than most of the songs on there, pity they didn't complete this one

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II0eIUsNELY

Behaved like pigs on their American tours, everything around them was disgusting, violent and degenerate.

Say what you like about Plant's behaviour, you can't beat his dry-roasted peanuts. The best thing ever to come out of Wolverhampton.

awful people and very overrated music.

blackbarn     28 Jul 15 23:05 
Trilby (and Facts will confirm) Bath was pretty **** as it rained nearly all the time, the bands were 2/3 hours late or had sound problems, or often both. Zeppelin were great though, they turned all the lights out for what seemed like minutes, and then someone said "Led Zeppelin" and all the lights came on as Whole Lotta Love started. I believe it was about 1.15am but cannot be sure.

Facts we should reminisce.  We might have queued together on Castle Cary station - Didnt pick up a brand-new Levi needle-cord blouson jacket did you? cos I'd like it back.


Yep. Weather was awful - and sound systems left a lot to be desired. But Led Zep were worth waiting for.
Sorry about your jacket, didn't travel by train. Came down in a 1920 /30s rover ? With black gangster type car with big headlights and running boards ! My mate drove and our pal was in the passenger seat, I was in the back with my girlfriend( soon to be my wife ) !  I was 19, she was 18. Long hair, tight green cardigan,needle cord trousers( green) and boots dyed silver. And that was me !  Happy, happy days.slept in the car overnight at the festival. Bought a copy of the Festival poster last year. It was great to remember the line up. Acts on Day 1 ( Sat 27th June) included, Canned Heat,Pink Floyd,Johnny Winter and Fairport Convention. On Day 2 ( Sun 28th) amongst others were Jefferson Airplane,frank Zappa,Moody Blues, Byrds,Santana ,Country Joe ( give us an F ,give us a U .....) and headlining - Led Zeppelin. Continuity by John Peel and Mike Raven. What a line  up !! Compare that to the crap you get nowadays.
A ticket for the 2 days ( bought in advance was 50 shillings ) !

Saw them at Bath festival early 70s Rock n Roll proper