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Ron-Russian
23 Jun 15 15:46
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Report akabula June 23, 2015 3:55 PM BST
Deserved to be hung.
Report Ramruma June 23, 2015 4:08 PM BST
... reasons of insanity so he'll be inside for life anyway.
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 23, 2015 4:14 PM BST
I didnt realise they were following him from the police helicopter before he murdered the poor old lady Sad

Surely the police have access to a weapon or 2 ?
Report Try My Best June 23, 2015 4:24 PM BST
Should have been shot. More airtime on how sorry they feel for the perpetrator than for the poor victim. Nothing changes.
Report Angel Gabrial June 23, 2015 4:36 PM BST
I didnt realise they were following him from the police helicopter before he murdered the poor old lady Sad


I thought that was captured on CCTV
Report broadsword June 23, 2015 4:59 PM BST
they have dropped the "muslim convert" part of the story
Report Ron-Russian June 23, 2015 4:59 PM BST
they had that footage of him walking out the cafe without paying then
returning to settle up a couple of hours before, hardly the actions of
someone insane "you would think"
Report Ramruma June 23, 2015 5:05 PM BST
Care in the community means paranoid schizophrenics on the streets and executive flats where the old psychiatric hospitals once stood.
Report Notsofastmyfriend June 23, 2015 5:12 PM BST
Just saw it on Sky News, I couldn't believe the chopper was following him for what seemed like an age, probably doing a risk assessment.
Report spellingandgrammarchecker June 23, 2015 5:29 PM BST
The police didn't want to shoot him.

Most of the televisions and laptops they got cheap after the August 2011 riots are still working okay.

This video contains some disturbing images Laugh

What planet do these BBC w*nkers live on?

Disturbing ffs.
Report alun2005 June 23, 2015 5:43 PM BST
Salvador is yet another poster boy for The Enrichment of Britain via unfettered mass immigration.


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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/edmonton-beheading-nicholas-salvador-charged-with-murder-of-palmira-silva-82-9716057.html
Report Wesdag June 23, 2015 6:00 PM BST
A rather cheap shot even by this forum's standards.
Report spellingandgrammarchecker June 23, 2015 6:02 PM BST
Old time coppers would have done a better job.

He wouldn't have appeared in court.

He'd have fallen down the stairs in the local nick.
Report terry mccann June 23, 2015 6:05 PM BST
shouldn't be out on the streets in the first place,
cant blame him,he"s a very sick man
Report spellingandgrammarchecker June 23, 2015 6:08 PM BST
They let one out of the nuthouse in Newham a few years ago, saying he was safe to go back into the community.

When they arrested him he had killed his mate and fried and eaten part of his brain.

But none of these nutters live near MPs, so it doesn't matter.
Report terry mccann June 23, 2015 6:13 PM BST
shocking!so why close mental hospital?ah yes to build flats,more money in thatCrazy
Report broadsword June 23, 2015 6:15 PM BST
they have dropped the "muslim convert" part of the story
Report spellingandgrammarchecker June 23, 2015 6:20 PM BST
There are only two hospitals left in Newham, from about 6, for 320,000 people.

One is the general hospital, and I kid you not, built on the old West Ham rubbish dump, for everything from an ingrowing toenail to Ebola.

If you get an appointment in 'out-patients' take a book, your lunch, and a mask.

East Ham Memorial is the other hospital, it was once a general hospital, it's a nuthouse now.

One A&E dept for the whole of the Borough.

Good those Olympics were, the money really helped out.
Report Wesdag June 23, 2015 6:30 PM BST
Oh the irony.

Do you really think you're best placed to decide what is or is not racist?
Report spellingandgrammarchecker June 23, 2015 6:31 PM BST
Yes, undoubtedly.
Report Wesdag June 23, 2015 6:37 PM BST
LaughCrazy
Report Dr Crippen June 23, 2015 6:50 PM BST
Where did he get the idea of beheading someone from I wonder?
Report alun2005 June 23, 2015 7:03 PM BST
Indeed Doc, quite a puzzle. After all, it's at least 7 full days since some psychopathic Jihadist beheaded someone basically for being white.
Report The Leopard June 23, 2015 7:22 PM BST
Cops should have had a tranquilliser dart gun or even a rifle in the copter as standard issue.
Report Dr Crippen June 23, 2015 7:56 PM BST
Good job he didn't take his clothes off instead.

He'd have got 9 years jail for that in solitary confinement.
Report mobo June 23, 2015 9:37 PM BST
her daughter said the area she had moved to in the 50s  had changed dramatically - i wonder what on earth she meant my that.

muslim beheads woman - where have i heard that before
Report Ron-Russian June 23, 2015 10:01 PM BST
when you read the court report it's like the jury were being pushed towards their decision.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/edmonton-beheading-trial-recap-updates-5932736
Report Ron-Russian June 23, 2015 10:02 PM BST
judge says: "It is a mercy that she (Mrs Silva) could have no time to comprehend what was going on."

He has made a restriction order under the Mental Health Act.

That means Salvador will only be released if it is deemed safe for the public.

ffs absolute joke
Report Pokermonster June 23, 2015 10:23 PM BST
I fail to see why mental health issues should bear any consequence in his sentencing, the fact that he is a vicious murderer should trump everything else.  Yet another deserving case for the death penalty in my view.
Report Dr Crippen June 23, 2015 10:26 PM BST
That means Salvador will only be released if it is deemed safe for the public.

And you can bet that some dope at sometime will come to that conclusion and have him released.
Report mobo June 23, 2015 10:50 PM BST
Islamaphobia is all the RAGE  - get it???
Report dukeofpuke June 24, 2015 12:18 AM BST
genocide is all the rage IF YOU ARE ISIS so fck off
Report spellingandgrammarchecker June 24, 2015 2:26 PM BST
British Summertime is like a muslim civil war.

One days it's Sunni, the next day it's shi-ite.
Report Wesdag June 24, 2015 2:28 PM BST
Ron, it is extremely unlikely that he will ever be released.
Report akabula June 24, 2015 2:32 PM BST
There should be no doubt about it. Extremely unlikely is not never. Guys an animal.
Report Wesdag June 24, 2015 2:39 PM BST
'Tis the law.

Insane people can not be treated as murders.

They are deemed as sick and in need of treatment.
Report akabula June 24, 2015 2:45 PM BST
Well he's a sick animal.
Report spellingandgrammarchecker June 24, 2015 2:54 PM BST
Unless he gets put in the Newham nuthouse, they let them out for a walk about.

He's probably in Broadmoor.
Report Try My Best June 24, 2015 3:01 PM BST
insane people cannot be treated as murderers. Is Ian Brady a murderer or insane?
Report mafeking June 24, 2015 3:08 PM BST
should still have to serve the sentence that he would have had if he'd been convicted of murder probably 25 years at least in this instance

ludicrous however unlikely it is that if he can convince some do gooder that he's not mentally ill he could be out in a few years

in any case isn't any murder an act of insanity ? it's not normal to want to kill another human being
Report Wesdag June 24, 2015 3:17 PM BST
some sharp minds on here
Report akabula June 24, 2015 3:17 PM BST
That's my thinking as well Mafeking.
Deal with the crime and sentence him accordingly then take into account his mental state hold him in a secure mental hospital.
Report akabula June 24, 2015 3:19 PM BST
For such a barbaric murder the sentence should be life without parole.
If his mental state changes then transfer him to a normal jail.
Report Wesdag June 24, 2015 3:28 PM BST
Yes, if he was found to be of sound mind when the murder took place, then no doubt it probably have been a whole life sentence.
Report Wesdag June 24, 2015 3:33 PM BST
Having said that, the Lee Rigby killers only got 45 years for trying to do the same thing.
Report Wesdag June 24, 2015 3:33 PM BST
*murderers not killers
Report akabula June 24, 2015 3:41 PM BST
Yes I think the problem on reflection is that the ECoHR insists that it cannot be without time limit irrespective of the severity of the crime.
Report TheBaron June 24, 2015 3:44 PM BST
I wouldn't get too worked up about the Muslim angle, he decapitated two cats as well.  Quite popular amongst those who believe the devil is in someone to chop them up.
Report Aunty Post June 24, 2015 3:49 PM BST
Thinking back to four years ago, when some nutter beheaded a woman in Tenerife....

Witnesses claimed he may have picked an ornamental blade off the shelves - as security guards would have spotted if he walked through the door with it.
Local mayor José Reverón said the alleged killer was a bizarre individual who was known to police and had a history of intimidating passers-by on the street before yesterday's horrifying attack.
He was reportedly released from a psychiatric hospital in February and had a history of violent behaviour before the brutal killing.
He apparently admitted to the psychiatric unit after knocking a stranger's teeth out on the street.
Deyan Valentinov was reportedly released from a psychiatric hospital in February and had a history of violent behaviour before brutally killing the 62-year-old Briton in a shopping centre in Los Cristianos yesterday, it was alleged.
After the attack, the man reportedly ran out into the street covered in blood, carrying his victim's head and telling passers-by: 'This is my treasure'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1387055/Briton-beheaded-Tenerife-ret...
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Report TheBaron June 24, 2015 3:52 PM BST
Not just heads, a bloke in Camden chopped a blokes feet off, police found them cooked in the oven.
Report spellingandgrammarchecker June 24, 2015 3:59 PM BST
Was he a greville?
Report akabula June 24, 2015 4:03 PM BST
Or was it a greville toaster?
Report Ron-Russian June 24, 2015 8:51 PM BST
He was a gentle giant it say's in the paper!

....it's a shame when gentle giants get caught up in something like this.
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