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1.01 there will be a press conference by Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson the Imam's of the USA.
fort hood shooting still considered to be "workplace violence" 6 years later
that's got that pesky embarrassing Dolezal story off the headlines
lots of sympathy on this thread. Forum is really fooked 
brendan's 5 hail marys and 10 RIPs should patch things right up, victims families are definitely looking to the betfair forum to pray their lost back to life.
local police have just been informed of the concerns of brendan on the betfair forum, have suspended any meaningful investigation and will instead be composing sad poems and lighting candles. all conclusions and statements will be handled by senior obama adviser al sharpton.
It's sickening. The veneer of civilisation is just that, a veneer.
An appalling act surely.
I find the term 'hate crime' intriguing. While there might be some small scale criminal acts where hate is not a necessary factor e.g. shoplifting from a large store, pretty much all violent crime is motivated by hate of a sort . I wonder what is the criterion for following the PC brigade in designating an act as a hate crime. Does it only apply where there is an ostensible race element present?
Of course much palpable hatred does not lead to any crime at all....unless we're talking about 'thought crime'.
I find the term 'hate crime' intriguing. While there might be some small scale criminal acts where hate is not a necessary factor e.g. shoplifting from a large store, pretty much all violent crime is motivated by hate of a sort . I wonder what is the criterion for following the PC brigade in designating an act as a hate crime. Does it only apply where there is an ostensible race element present?
Of course much palpable hatred does not lead to any crime at all....unless we're talking about 'thought crime'.
Charleston Police Chief : "We consider this act as not acceptable in any way"
Very strange he has to say that......you would have thought that was obvious.
Very strange he has to say that......you would have thought that was obvious.
Shooter was very angry..... what could be the reason for that?
BBC headline
"Nine people are killed in a shooting described as a 'hate crime' at an African-American church in Charleston, with A WHITE SUSPECT STILL AT LARGE."
I can't ever remember them saying ''with a black suspect still at large''.
"Nine people are killed in a shooting described as a 'hate crime' at an African-American church in Charleston, with A WHITE SUSPECT STILL AT LARGE."
I can't ever remember them saying ''with a black suspect still at large''.
At least we have the proper definiton of 'hate', he murdered 9 people.
Not called them names on an internet forum, put pigs heads on their doorsteps, or called them 'yids'.
Not called them names on an internet forum, put pigs heads on their doorsteps, or called them 'yids'.
Seems to be these type's of mass shootings ever four five months. With guns so readily available and in some states the checks to get them are very lax. These shootings will continue until there is a change in the gun laws. That's not going to happen as they fund a lot of the politic system.
Probably explains his motivation Mr E so the description is relevant in this case.
More likely to be mentally ill or taking revenge for something.
Mr. Roof’s Facebook profile picture shows him wearing a jacket decorated with the flags of two former white supremacist regimes, in apartheid-era South Africa and in Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe.
The gunman walked into the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church after 8 p.m., and the first call to police came shortly after 9 p.m. Among the dead was the Rev. Clementa C. Pinckney, pastor of the church, who was also a state senator.
Sylvia Johnson, a cousin of Mr. Pinckney, told NBC News that she had spoken with a survivor of the shooting who told her the gunman reloaded five times. The survivor, she said, told her that the gunman had entered the church and asked for the pastor. Then he sat next to Mr. Pinckney during the Bible study before opening fire.
“I have to do it,” the gunman was quoted as saying. “You rape our women and you’re taking over our country. And you have to go.”
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/us/charleston-church-shooting.html
The gunman walked into the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church after 8 p.m., and the first call to police came shortly after 9 p.m. Among the dead was the Rev. Clementa C. Pinckney, pastor of the church, who was also a state senator.
Sylvia Johnson, a cousin of Mr. Pinckney, told NBC News that she had spoken with a survivor of the shooting who told her the gunman reloaded five times. The survivor, she said, told her that the gunman had entered the church and asked for the pastor. Then he sat next to Mr. Pinckney during the Bible study before opening fire.
“I have to do it,” the gunman was quoted as saying. “You rape our women and you’re taking over our country. And you have to go.”
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/us/charleston-church-shooting.html
Anyone who thinks this (or any) loony gun-nutter is a hero is ret@rded.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33187779
The top of his head looks too wide IMO
The top of his head looks too wide IMO
The killer's parents gave him a gun for his birthday. What could possibly go wrong?
Name names Wesdag. Nobody will think him anything but a sick individual.
I think you are getting mixed up with people questioning how certain crimes are reported and the actual crime.
I think you are getting mixed up with people questioning how certain crimes are reported and the actual crime.
I clicked on a link to a US newpaper to read what it said, the autoamatic related advertising for articles and products I might be interested in was .. ? Gun reviews, best guns 2015, what gun to buy etc 
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If our lunatics and chavs were knee deep in guns, I'd think it would be pretty scary here too...
obviously a sliding scale from casual racism, calling names, thinking man who shoots nine blacks is a hero, to shooting nine blacks in a church themselves.
don't want to be flippant but he looks like gareth keenans( from the office ) younger brother. odd looking person.
Interesting story but would have been better if perp was a Muzzie imo.
Sorry, I'll change it.
Interesting story but would have been funnier if perp was a Muzzie imo.
Interesting story but would have been funnier if perp was a Muzzie imo.
Bizarre from start to finish. The murderer's parents gave him the gun for his birthday two months ago, and this twerp with a mediaeval-chic haircut rages against Black gangsters but then shoots up a church, and Black rapists, but most of his victims are women. This isn't a hate crime: it's what happens when you arm a complete fruitloop.
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http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/kb2h42/charleston-church-shooting
worth a watch
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/kb2h42/charleston-church-shooting
worth a watch
killer was a Suboxone user, but no one looking into the massive pharma problem linked not only to most of these mass shootings but to misery throughout the country. as for illegal drugs, they have been granted urban chic status so are not considered problematic
over a thousand shootings in detroit this year but no jon stewart sad special on that obama's story
years of relentless race baiting and divisiveness based largely on fake narratives and apartied policies and the result is the this trend in racially targeted killing.
then as people become more fearful, more buy guns, and the problem gets even worse.
but as has been asked already, why would this kid drive for hours to a prayer group to kill harmless old christian ladies?
over a thousand shootings in detroit this year but no jon stewart sad special on that obama's story
years of relentless race baiting and divisiveness based largely on fake narratives and apartied policies and the result is the this trend in racially targeted killing.
then as people become more fearful, more buy guns, and the problem gets even worse.
but as has been asked already, why would this kid drive for hours to a prayer group to kill harmless old christian ladies?
Read some articles today on this Roof chap, what an evil man. They should put him down and put him out of his misery. Why would his dad give a 21 year old, unemployed, high school drop out a gun. Absolute mess!
I dont think parents gave him a gun, he bought the with money from his birthday. I maybe wrong but that is what his friend said in a report.
But deeper down for him to be like he was his family must be part of it.
The jacket with flags is awful, if you posted that picture in the uk you would be strung up.
But deeper down for him to be like he was his family must be part of it.
The jacket with flags is awful, if you posted that picture in the uk you would be strung up.
I read he was given a gun as a gift.
He is an introvert, but Roof also appears to have a history of racism and drug abuse – and a family that reportedly gave him a gun as a gift.
He is an introvert, but Roof also appears to have a history of racism and drug abuse – and a family that reportedly gave him a gun as a gift.
Doesnt really matter how he got the gun, probably unusual for a teenager not to have a gun in the good old U S
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