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09 Jun 15
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This morning on Radio 5 live. Some ex player giving her expert opinion on the women's world cup...
"It sounds like a cliché but there are no easy games at the world cup"
Then two minutes later, asked about Germany beating Ivory Coast 10-0:
"Well it was the top ranked team against the bottom ranked team so a 10-0 win was inevitable"
Get off my radio you daft bint.
"It sounds like a cliché but there are no easy games at the world cup"
Then two minutes later, asked about Germany beating Ivory Coast 10-0:
"Well it was the top ranked team against the bottom ranked team so a 10-0 win was inevitable"
Get off my radio you daft bint.
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The Ivory Coast were chopping those Germans down....that can't be easy !
I watched a couple of matches on Eurosport.
The female pundit almost pulling the sexist card to her co(male) pundit.
He was like `that yellow card decision seems a bit harsh to me`
Se replies ` Ok then, meet me at the training ground in the morning and i will tackle you like that. Then tell me if you think it should be a yellow card!`
The female pundit almost pulling the sexist card to her co(male) pundit.
He was like `that yellow card decision seems a bit harsh to me`
Se replies ` Ok then, meet me at the training ground in the morning and i will tackle you like that. Then tell me if you think it should be a yellow card!`
To be fair, she'd need to talk utter nonsense nonstop for the next twenty years to have a chance of catching up to about half of the total cr@p that's been spouted by male football pundits up to now.
In a nutshell - most football pundits talk garbage at some point, regardless of gender.
In a nutshell - most football pundits talk garbage at some point, regardless of gender.
Is'nt pundits talking tosh part of the viewing experience?
Isn't this just another case of a sports events that the media have to pretend to be interested in, like they do with the Paralympics ?
I watched the 2nd half of Brazil-Korea last night. It was so quiet in the stadium you could hear the players communicating with eachother.
Second tier sports broadcasters making the most of whatever they have the rights to.
Advertising is free on the BBC - if you are the BBC.
Add that to their liberal, inclusive, agenda towards sports.
Advertising is free on the BBC - if you are the BBC.
Add that to their liberal, inclusive, agenda towards sports.
The Beeb really take the p1ss with stuff like this. Often see a headline on their website like “Evans wins Gold”. With the insinuation that this Evans character is so well known that they can be identified by surname alone – like Murray, Hamilton, Ennis or Farah. But I’m scratching my head. Who could it be? World Champion so it must be an individual sport – not Cricket, Rugby or Footy. Can’t think of an athlete, tennis player, boxer golfer, swimmer called Evans. Lets look further afield – motorcyclist, rally driver, gymnast, diver, judoist, takewondoer, canoeist badminton, squash. No still coming up blank.. Oh fk it lets click on the link and see what our great British sporting superstar has won. Its bollocking Commonwealth para winter games at some pissing dry ski slope in Wiltshire and one of our blind skiers has won a race. Ffs.
British Broadcasting corporation or as I like to call them, B@stard B@stard Coonts.
British Broadcasting corporation or as I like to call them, B@stard B@stard Coonts.
Rob dylan - post at 12.10.
The Beeb really take the p1ss with stuff like this. Often see a headline on their website like “Evans wins Gold”. With the insinuation that this Evans character is so well known that they can be identified by surname alone – like Murray, Hamilton, Ennis or Farah. But I’m scratching my head. Who could it be? World Champion so it must be an individual sport – not Cricket, Rugby or Footy. Can’t think of an athlete, tennis player, boxer golfer, swimmer called Evans. Lets look further afield – motorcyclist, rally driver, gymnast, diver, judoist, takewondoer, canoeist badminton, squash. No still coming up blank.. Oh fk it lets click on the link and see what our great British sporting superstar has won. Its bollocking Commonwealth para winter games at some pissing dry ski slope in Wiltshire and one of our blind skiers has won a race. Ffs.
British Broadcasting corporation or as I like to call them, B@stard B@stard Coonts.
I'm disabled but that's one of the funniest posts I've seen for a long time - couldn't agree more.
The Beeb really take the p1ss with stuff like this. Often see a headline on their website like “Evans wins Gold”. With the insinuation that this Evans character is so well known that they can be identified by surname alone – like Murray, Hamilton, Ennis or Farah. But I’m scratching my head. Who could it be? World Champion so it must be an individual sport – not Cricket, Rugby or Footy. Can’t think of an athlete, tennis player, boxer golfer, swimmer called Evans. Lets look further afield – motorcyclist, rally driver, gymnast, diver, judoist, takewondoer, canoeist badminton, squash. No still coming up blank.. Oh fk it lets click on the link and see what our great British sporting superstar has won. Its bollocking Commonwealth para winter games at some pissing dry ski slope in Wiltshire and one of our blind skiers has won a race. Ffs.
British Broadcasting corporation or as I like to call them, B@stard B@stard Coonts.
I'm disabled but that's one of the funniest posts I've seen for a long time - couldn't agree more.
I was sure the Commonwealth Para Games were in Glasgow. Mind you, I guess they could have just driven her to Wiltshire and told her she was in Glasgow. Doubt she'd know unless someone spilled the beans. 
Bilbo. Well I, like 99.9% of people have nothing against disabled people or disabled people doing sport. That race in 2012 between Ellie Simmonds and Victoria Arlen, 400m free, was just great sport and I thought it was a shame that I was the only one in the pub interested in it. That stood alone as a sporting spectacle. No one loves sport more than me and it is of course great that the disabled can take part. I just find it slightly objectionable the way the beeb go about it. They spent 5 minutes covering blind skiing at the sports personality of the year awards in December – equal to the entire time they gave to Rugby and Cricket combined. I don’t think this kind of inflated coverage, nor the beeb trying to sneakily suggest to us that we should all know loads about the world of blind skiing, is very helpful.
It was actually channel 4 that got the Paralympics iirc. That bloody Iwan Thomas doing interviews and constantly saying “These guys train as hard, if not harder than, the able bodied athletes”. It just seemed so excruciatingly patronising as much as anything.
It was actually channel 4 that got the Paralympics iirc. That bloody Iwan Thomas doing interviews and constantly saying “These guys train as hard, if not harder than, the able bodied athletes”. It just seemed so excruciatingly patronising as much as anything.
I know it's ridiculous rob. They have to allocate a significant time to this guff in order to satisfy their diversity quotas ( WIA is brilliant by the way) - they are a repulsive organisation and I can't better your renaming of the BBC.
Agreed Rob.
And that f***ing annoying "You dont know me" advert for the womens WC, which is played on radio 5 after every news bulletin.
And that f***ing annoying "You dont know me" advert for the womens WC, which is played on radio 5 after every news bulletin.
The BBC does a lot of great things but the way they try to brainwash people into believing that things like wimmens football are great and if you don't agree you're not politically correct is really getting on my tits.
Time for a valium?
Is that your daughter RTB ? (probably not as I remember her as being sight impaired)
Rob, don't Rugby and Cricket get enough air time over the year....why be-grudge Blind Ski-ing 5 mins
I do wonder if they should mix Sport and Para-sport sometimes though.
Is that your daughter RTB ? (probably not as I remember her as being sight impaired)
Rob, don't Rugby and Cricket get enough air time over the year....why be-grudge Blind Ski-ing 5 mins
I do wonder if they should mix Sport and Para-sport sometimes though.
Yeah - she's not visually impaired though.
Giving a different perspective on disability and disabled sport / athletes and the 'hierarchy of acceptability' therein.
Giving a different perspective on disability and disabled sport / athletes and the 'hierarchy of acceptability' therein.
how many women would tune in to watch the mens netball world cup, 
I obviously lead a very sheltered life because I've met very few women who are actually interested in football.
It's the BBC Reithian imperative though, to educate as well as entertain and to take non-populist angles in doing so.
Ultimately only you can decide if you're being entertained / educated or are getting anything from watching women's football. Yes, the marketing by the BBC might be clumsy and verging on overkill but I think 21st century first world media consumers have pretty good bullsh1t detectors (just look at this thread!) and have a fair understanding when their being conned.
So I showed up for France vs England yesterday. Like most, well it's sport isn't it and free to air too. Second, well, it's England isn't it - home nation and I'd probably checkout 'us' playing tiddlywinks if it was covered.
Finally though, God it was boring even judged in its own right. You had hoped against all hope that an English team may have considered attack......aggression.....giving the opposition something to think about, but no, we revert to the grim, determined, hard work, 'putting our bodies on the line' template that has served us oh-so-well over the years.
.....and the English goalie is the biggest 'here's one for the camera' poser I've ever seen in a football shirt (and I've seen Gergios Samaras play as a guide here)
Not impressed so far then.
Ultimately only you can decide if you're being entertained / educated or are getting anything from watching women's football. Yes, the marketing by the BBC might be clumsy and verging on overkill but I think 21st century first world media consumers have pretty good bullsh1t detectors (just look at this thread!) and have a fair understanding when their being conned.
So I showed up for France vs England yesterday. Like most, well it's sport isn't it and free to air too. Second, well, it's England isn't it - home nation and I'd probably checkout 'us' playing tiddlywinks if it was covered.
Finally though, God it was boring even judged in its own right. You had hoped against all hope that an English team may have considered attack......aggression.....giving the opposition something to think about, but no, we revert to the grim, determined, hard work, 'putting our bodies on the line' template that has served us oh-so-well over the years.
.....and the English goalie is the biggest 'here's one for the camera' poser I've ever seen in a football shirt (and I've seen Gergios Samaras play as a guide here)
Not impressed so far then.
Looked a good presentation there (watched 4 mins will watch the rest soon)
The weather was bad for the England game....bit of sun and it would have been a better
France are top 4 so we did okay.
The weather was bad for the England game....bit of sun and it would have been a better
France are top 4 so we did okay.
I watched the whole of that talk. I went to Brum uni so was a bit of nostalgia, I remember that hall she was in. Bit difficult to know what to say. I mean the beeb didnt even get the rights to the paralympics(correct me if I am wrong) in 2012. Now they think they can make up for it by giving inflated coverage to blind skiing.
I remember, as many on here did, when Pam won that gold medal. Was a great chit chat moment. The paralympics are a big thing and deserve lots of coverage. Unfortunately the competitiveness is necessarily not too high for so many events. In that link rtb's daughter mentions that 20pc of people in this country are "disabled". I had presumed it was more like 1 or 2 pc, a misconception that was at the heart of that speech. But are 20pc of people eligible to take part in paralympic sport? Whatever the pc it is necessarily further cut down because a blind person is not the same as a dwarf is not the same as a double amputee etc. in summary the paralympics should be given a lot of coverage. Blue riband events like wheelchair marathons or, say, 100m single amputee? I dunno they deserve some coverage at world champs etc. but the rest should all be under a "disabled sport" tab with results and write ups there if you want to know about it. That blind skier deserves her accolades but putting it as one of the main headlines, Referring to her only by surname is not the right way to go about it.
I remember, as many on here did, when Pam won that gold medal. Was a great chit chat moment. The paralympics are a big thing and deserve lots of coverage. Unfortunately the competitiveness is necessarily not too high for so many events. In that link rtb's daughter mentions that 20pc of people in this country are "disabled". I had presumed it was more like 1 or 2 pc, a misconception that was at the heart of that speech. But are 20pc of people eligible to take part in paralympic sport? Whatever the pc it is necessarily further cut down because a blind person is not the same as a dwarf is not the same as a double amputee etc. in summary the paralympics should be given a lot of coverage. Blue riband events like wheelchair marathons or, say, 100m single amputee? I dunno they deserve some coverage at world champs etc. but the rest should all be under a "disabled sport" tab with results and write ups there if you want to know about it. That blind skier deserves her accolades but putting it as one of the main headlines, Referring to her only by surname is not the right way to go about it.
The Great Hall isn't it? Went there too. Think that was where we graduated.
remember channel 4 making an absolute horlicks of covering the race and only cut to it just before the finish
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AU4fI_RteoI
Arlen v Simmonds. Comm isnt the best imo, doesnt quite get the excitement across. Just as a race between two people it was superb. Arlen was a slim, tall attractive yank. Simmonds, with the greatest of respect, wasn't. There were questions in the build up as to whether Arlen should even be allowed to race - question marks over the level of disability etc. If she didn't then it was just an obvious walkover for Simmonds. Simmonds wanted Arlen to race, and so did I. The race was great, you could see, or sense, the determination in Simmonds throughout, she was behind for most of it but she stayed cool and won in the last 100m. She took five and a bit minutes. I am doing a 400m pool swim on Sunday as part of a sprint tri, should dip under 8 minutes. The fastest swimmer will do a similar time to Ellie Simmonds. That fastest swimmer will probably be a 6 foot male, super fast elite triathlete and he will do a similar time to a 4ft fk all female dwarf. I have no problem with someone like Ellie Simmonds getting a lot of coverage for her efforts in a home paralympics.
Arlen v Simmonds. Comm isnt the best imo, doesnt quite get the excitement across. Just as a race between two people it was superb. Arlen was a slim, tall attractive yank. Simmonds, with the greatest of respect, wasn't. There were questions in the build up as to whether Arlen should even be allowed to race - question marks over the level of disability etc. If she didn't then it was just an obvious walkover for Simmonds. Simmonds wanted Arlen to race, and so did I. The race was great, you could see, or sense, the determination in Simmonds throughout, she was behind for most of it but she stayed cool and won in the last 100m. She took five and a bit minutes. I am doing a 400m pool swim on Sunday as part of a sprint tri, should dip under 8 minutes. The fastest swimmer will do a similar time to Ellie Simmonds. That fastest swimmer will probably be a 6 foot male, super fast elite triathlete and he will do a similar time to a 4ft fk all female dwarf. I have no problem with someone like Ellie Simmonds getting a lot of coverage for her efforts in a home paralympics.
Really interesting conversation this one.
I suppose sport in its purest form is the Men's 100 metres, Long Jump and High Jump. Anything else is slower, lower and shorter, made up and basically not the real deal.
How far down the list do you go after that then? They cover U21's football but not the world junior athletics championships. They cover Ice Dancing but not Bodybuilding. They cover some of the Paralympics but not much of the Boccia.
Ultimately as a broadcaster you have to give the public what they want whilst trying to go 'here's something new you might enjoy'.
The way you go about executing that though can be half-ar$ed in the extreme (see The Womens World Cup, Rob Dylans disabled skier and my bête noire, BBC's Formula 1 coverage)
I suppose sport in its purest form is the Men's 100 metres, Long Jump and High Jump. Anything else is slower, lower and shorter, made up and basically not the real deal.
How far down the list do you go after that then? They cover U21's football but not the world junior athletics championships. They cover Ice Dancing but not Bodybuilding. They cover some of the Paralympics but not much of the Boccia.
Ultimately as a broadcaster you have to give the public what they want whilst trying to go 'here's something new you might enjoy'.
The way you go about executing that though can be half-ar$ed in the extreme (see The Womens World Cup, Rob Dylans disabled skier and my bête noire, BBC's Formula 1 coverage)
Ask me to sign a petition pleading the beeb not to spunk all their sports budget on F1 and then feel the need to justify it by giving it inflated coverage across their channels/website and I will sign it.
take a bow Rob Dylan - that post at 12.10 is genius
couldn't have put it better myself
couldn't have put it better myself
It is worse than I ever even dared imagine. The 22:00 late showing of eastenders on BBC3 has been cancelled for women's football.
I'd tather watch women's football anytime the East fkin Enders!
A philistine is a person who doesn't like Eastenders!
didnt realise the BBC put a gun to your head and forced you to watch the Women's WC or Para sport...their militia have not made it to these parts yet, so i havent seen a ball kicked, preferring to catch up with stuff i've missed on the iPlayer or on their many excellent radio stations
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