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09 Jun 15 15:43
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Yesterday, on BBC regional news pages, there was a report of an alleged serious assault in a Ladbrokes shop in King Street, Leicester, on Friday.

The shop was said to be closed by the police while investigation was under way.

How does a serious assault take place in a bookies, with no witnesses, I asked myself.

It must be the a manager or manageress, and he/she was alone when it happened, either out in the public area, or there's no bandit screen. 

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The same item of news on the BBC regional page has been re-worded today.

A 43 year old man has been charged with attempted murder, robbery and sexual assault, at a shop in Leicester.

A 50 year old man has been charged with assisting an offender.

But now there is no mention of it being a Ladbrokes shop,  or even a bookies.

Somewhat mystified, I googled the Leicester news site.

That report confirms the sex, age and charges against the suspects.

It says King Street, but calls it a 'City centre business'

I used Google maps for King Street, Leicester, and it's nowhere near the city centre, and it looks like it's flanked by mostly fields.

A search for 'Ladbrokes, Leicester' gives the address as Market Place, Leicester.

I was hoping to launch into a tirade about under-manned shops and a lack of bandit screens. but that will have to wait until it's ascertained it was a bookies.

And much to my surprise, both of the alleged criminals have the same surname, which is Singh.

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By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 09 Jun 15 17:50
King Street is near where the council offices were that just got demolished, it is city centre. If it's the one I'm thinking of it used to be a small independent in the 80's where a certain Willy Thorne used to frequent
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 09 Jun 15 17:51
try this one

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https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/King+St,+Leicester+LE1/@52.6309635,-1.131446,17z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x48776121099b09f3:0x86f749269684676e
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 09 Jun 15 18:06
I didn't read the screen properly, I see now that there are 4 King Streets.

I went for the top one, which is some place called Barkby Thorpe.
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 09 Jun 15 18:24
Just read the whole thread on the HR forum.

She was alone and it was after 10-00 p.m.

She was knocked out and raped.

It seems that working alone is banned under H&S rules everywhere except bookies.
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Jun 15 19:38
If these Incidents were happening in pubs they would have there License revoked Plain
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 09 Jun 15 19:39
I have a good friend who has been a manageress for Ladbrokes for many years. When she has to single man and close the shop on her own her husband or son come to the shop after their own workday has finished and sit with her til 10.15 p.m. until she has closed the shop. Single manning should be made illegal.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 09 Jun 15 19:40
Quite correct nanny.
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Jun 15 19:44
Totally agree Slippy ,Manager was killed in Ladbrokes Morden last year ,hammer attack when own his own at 8.30 in the morning
have done anything to improve staff security ? Just Disgusting ..
By:
s.kenbo
When: 09 Jun 15 20:00
I used to pop into that shop (that BB put a link up for) when my missus was in hospital last year.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 09 Jun 15 20:32
been trying to think of the name it used to be but it won't come to me. Yes s.k Leicester Royal is just around the corner
By:
s.kenbo
When: 09 Jun 15 20:53
I never knew the place existed, it's a bit out of the way really.
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 09 Jun 15 21:47
There's tale on the HR forum on the same sort of thread about a woman who got £9k compensation for having a gun poked in  her face.

A judge quashed it on appeal.

I bet his wife isn't on minimum wage late at night, the daft c*nt.
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 11 Jun 15 15:49
Plain
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 11 Jun 15 15:49
Plain
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 13 Jun 15 12:30
There are no news reports now that name it as a Ladbrokes shop.

How have they got the power to have all reports changed to 'city centre business'?
By:
Facts
When: 13 Jun 15 17:10
To prevent ' copy cat' crime ?
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 13 Jun 15 21:52
Trust an idiot to suggest that answer.

As if robbers read newspapers.

I'd suggest to get away from the publicity that there was only one member of staff on duty at the time.

And it was late.

Something that doesn't happen in any factory or warehouse in the UK, if H&S rules are followed.

Bookies take the piss, because their staff are many, but spread all over the place.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 14 Jun 15 00:14
   To prevent ' copy cat' crime ?


  tad harsh to suggest that this was posted by an idiot. entirely plausible that ladcrooks dont want it broadcast that

  staff are single manning and how easy they are to rob, hence ladcrooks saying in one report that they are reviewing

  their staff security.
By:
Facts
When: 14 Jun 15 05:08
Exactly. Thank you Glasgow !

Trust  SaGC - the biggest idiot troll on here  - to be too dense to 'get ' the reason. But then again understandable, considering he couldn't even read a map of the location in Leicester.
By:
thedodgepot
When: 14 Jun 15 12:24
Shop still shut as of Friday.  Should never have been a young girl in there on her own.  Scores of homeless type  hostels in the area and dozens of dodgy looking people always knocking around.  The geezers they arrested were odds in to be no good types.  Wasn't rocket science to know something like this would happen.  As for the poor girl I hope she gets well soon.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 14 Jun 15 12:37
Unfortunately, that is rarely the case.
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 14 Jun 15 13:38
GLASGOWCALLING   
14 Jun 15 00:14 
To prevent ' copy cat' crime ?
tad harsh to suggest that this was posted by an idiot.


Is it really?

Only an out of touch idiot wouldn't know that single manning is widespread in bookies shops the length and breadth of the country.

entirely plausible that ladcrooks dont want it broadcast that staff are single manning and how easy they are to rob,

See the sentence above.

hence ladcrooks saying in one report that they are reviewing their staff security.

In your opinion, why haven't they done it after so many robberies of single staffed shops over the years?

I'll give you my reasons:

1) They don't care, as cover ups don't reveal the true number of shops robbed.

2) More staffing costs more wages.

3) There is no union representation, and staff are spread too thinly.

4) Even if some tried to organise a one day strike, there are thousands of staff of staff who would be scared of the sack, because they are not brave enough to realise that a one day nationwide strike is the answer ti getting changes, and Ladbrokes CANNOT SACK THEM ALL. 

5) Ladbrokes, the greedy crafty c*nts, KNOW that in this eventuality, not all staff would strike, and those that did, could well get sacked if there aeonigh staff to go round after the sackings.



Facts still hasn't got over the FACT that his beloved Labour Party lost the election, so he picks arguments with me as he has a small crew of morons to back him up, like TheChaser, YOMOMMA and The Special One. I'd sooner have no mates than that trio of trolls.

I was surprised to see him on this thread, given the ethnicity of the rapist/robber/accomplice.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 14 Jun 15 13:47
you should block him, it's just like he vanished after the election like he said LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 14 Jun 15 14:01
A bit of googling suggests Ladbrokes say they are 'reviewing security procedures' after every robbery, assault etc.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 14 Jun 15 14:12
s and g , i dont dispute most of what you say about ladcrooks. i was merely stating i agreed with facts about the

copy cat crime. also , and yes i Do believe robbers read papers, oh and its well known they frequent twitter.
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 14 Jun 15 14:13
FACTS

Do you know why I asked about King Street in Leicester?

Here's a solid clue: I've never visited Leicester.

I can't read a map?

Another baseless accusation by the know nothing Facts.

We can see by the following evidence that he didn't look either.

He won't look at these as it will make him look stupid (not that difficult really) and he won't like that.

Google map page.

This is what happened when I typed 'King Street Leicester' in the search box.

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http://i58.tinypic.com/2e3o4co.jpg

As you can see, the address  is in the search box, but I hadn't clicked on it yet.


Screenshot 2 is the map it gave when I clicked on it.

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http://i60.tinypic.com/6fpk69.jpg

(I've never visited Leicester)

This Kings Street is in Barkby Thorpe, which is a parish close to the Leicester urban sprawl.

(I've never visited Leicester)

I went into Street View, but to my surprise, it's all fields, no shops there.

It's the wrong king Street...

(I've never visited Leicester)

I then decided to 'zoom out' to see where it was on the map.

Close enough to Leicester to be called Leicester imo. 

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http://i61.tinypic.com/15rmxb8.jpg

(I've never visited Leicester)

I then decided to Google 'Ladbrokes Leicester' as I felt pretty sure that it would be a shop in the town itself, not in a lane surrounded by trees.

This was the result of that search, it gave 3 shops.

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http://i59.tinypic.com/egx3iv.jpg

Market Place?

Gypsy Lane?

Narborough Road?

(I've never visited Leicester)

As those that are reading can plainly see, there is no shop with an address in King Street.

This will please the Ladbroke lawyers immensely.

It if doesn't exist, it couldn't be robbed, which means that the manageress wasn't raped, the accomplice didn't help, because  the rapist didn't do it.

The Singhs can go free, and the manageress that doesn't exist, isn't getting any compensation.

Hurrah for Google.

Shame for Facts.
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 14 Jun 15 14:14
Jack Hacksaw   
14 Jun 15 14:01 
A bit of googling suggests Ladbrokes say they are 'reviewing security procedures' after every robbery, assault etc.


Which year did that start?
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 14 Jun 15 14:18
GLASGOWCALLING    14 Jun 15 14:12 
s and g , i dont dispute most of what you say about ladcrooks. i was merely stating i agreed with facts about the

copy cat crime. also , and yes i Do believe robbers read papers, oh and its well known they frequent twitter.


I don't read newspapers. I get my first view of the news from BBC television pages, then I go off to Google with what interests me.

I read on the Horse Racing forum that the Racing Post stated that it was a Ladbrokes shop in their first report.

I wonder what they have in later reports, now that there have been arrests. 

Have they been hushed up?
By:
Facts
When: 14 Jun 15 17:32
Spammer

Jesus, calm down ,calm down.

You appear to be somewhat psychotic ,deranged ,obsessive and deranged.

Get some treatment you idiot
By:
Facts
When: 14 Jun 15 17:34
On this page alone, 15 threads created by you. Nutter
By:
akabula
When: 14 Jun 15 20:36
I know that no amount of money will recompense this girl for the ordeal she's went through but I hope she takes laddies for plenty for putting her in danger by their single manning policy.
Absolute cants, along with all the other multis, who put profit in front of their staffs welfare.
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 15 Jun 15 00:01
Facts   
14 Jun 15 17:32 
Spammer
Jesus, calm down ,calm down.
You appear to be somewhat psychotic ,deranged ,obsessive and deranged.
Get some treatment you idiot


There you are readers, I told you that he wouldn't like the FACT that I don't come from Leicester, and showed my Google steps all the way. Plus I know more about running betting shops in rough areas than he ever will.

So Facts, you want to play trolls, to get a reaction?

Anybody knows that I don't do personal insults until somebody starts on me.

You're now in the same job lot of 'Cambridges' as The Special Needs One, YOMOMMA and MEADOW X1, (who says he has blocked me, but then again, he may be lying, like you were)

You're such a miserable bastard, there's a 4 year old thread on here which is addressed to 'Facts'

The only post on it said 'Cheer up'

Sums you up perfectly, you were miserable 4 year ago, and you're still miserable now.

I don't tell lies either.

Your turn.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 15 Jun 15 00:47
AKA, i agree 100% with what you say, but i am afraid ladcrooks have not broken any employment regulations as far as i know,

  lets just hope this case makes them have a rethink on single manning. i genuinely thought it would be against health and safety at work ??

  but obviously not !!! its either work it or no work i imagine. a truly rancid outfit.
By:
akabula
When: 15 Jun 15 00:53
My m8s wife had to do it and if he wasn't available I'd go up and sit in with her at night.
She was genuinely frightened but her boss wasn't interested.
By:
Paddy Hair
When: 15 Jun 15 00:55
I work in Transport Logistics and when one of our drivers has to unload a vehicle at an un-manned site ( so he is the only person on site ) he has to ring in every hour. I wonder Ladcrooks get round it the sameway by ringing the staff every 30 mins or so.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 15 Jun 15 01:00
ShockedShocked  AKA, when i first went to work in glasgow about 10 yrs ago there was a ladcrooks shop on govan rd that had

  the biggest looking doorman ive seen , built like a brick outhouse !!  i never had the nerve to go in there, saved a feckin fortune. LaughLaugh
By:
akabula
When: 15 Jun 15 01:10
Laugh GC
I worked in the industry but single manning wasn't considered safe back then although they did start taking away bandit screens.
Was a silly idea and after a few incidents they had to replace some of them.
The problem recently is the increased taxation and licening costs on FOBTs which has impacted net income and cutting wages was the way they chose to address this and make up the difference.
By:
kenny mann
When: 15 Jun 15 01:16
I was in Lads in Leeds on The Headrow yesterday for an hour on and off. There were 3 staff on and 3 customers in all that time. The whole city was buzzing, meanwhile.
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 15 Jun 15 01:18
My good friend Mr Biddlecombe is close enough.

The reason that one is not allowed to work on their own is not just in case of a serious accident.

If an elderly member of staff (or rarely, a younger member) hits the ground with a heart attack or a stroke, for example, there is nobody there to dial 999. 

Greedy facking bookies deem it okay to have a female in the middle of a late winter night with no other staff.

There are STILL Ladbroke shops in east London with no bandit screens. You don't see area managers round that way late at night.   

Ladbrokes in Wisbech was reported to be going to single person staffing almost 2 years ago. She has enough problems as it is in the winter, and has had to call the police on several occasions to chuck out eastern europeans at closing time who have been drinking and come in for a kip in the warmth of the shop.
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