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29 May 15
21:12
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God bless David Cameron. 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/first-victims-tory-welfare-cap-5780398
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/first-victims-tory-welfare-cap-5780398
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feel sorry for the new neighbours of the skum.
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How many died ?
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Ibrahima Sonko 29 May 15 21:15 Joined: 03 Jun 07 | Topic/replies: 55,400 | Blogger: Ibrahima Sonko's blog How many died ? 0 God bless this Conservative government. God bless it  |
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I'm split on this. I voted Tory and do agree with a cap, but I do feel sorry the little'uns in this. Suddenly being chucked out of your home must be awful for them. As for them being scum, they really don't seem like it to me, but I could be wrong.
Dont want to go all UKIP, but I wonder when we'll see foreigners being turfed out? Probably never. They'll find some way to wrangle it. Probably by crying racism, the council will $hit themselves and it will all be happy days for them. |
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treble 29 May 15 21:28 Joined: 17 Jan 08 | Topic/replies: 11,510 | Blogger: treble's blog
As for them being scum, they really don't seem like it to me, but I could be wrong. Wait until they move next door mate, then you can make your mind up.  |
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Two cars on benefits????
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Do you not agree though that a weeks notice and the offer of a 2 bedroom flat for 7 kids is a bit of a p1sstake.
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treble 29 May 15 21:34 Joined: 17 Jan 08 | Topic/replies: 11,511 | Blogger: treble's blog
Do you not agree though that a weeks notice and the offer of a 2 bedroom flat for 7 kids is a bit of a p1sstake. If true yes. |
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do you actually think they had a weeks notice ?
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7 kids. Aye churn em out so as we can keep them. Feckin joke.
Harsh on the kids but the parents are as much to blame as anyone. |
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Was it compulsory for this couple to have SEVEN children?
And then expect the taxpayer to keep this family in a life of luxury? Little sympathy here. |
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It's not before time that the welfare should be once again seen as a temporary safety net rather than a permanent lifestyle choice.
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*welfare state
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25 years ago i would had said that it was the responsibility of parents to provide for all the kids they have.
Now after Labour allowed millions of migrants during their reign to take away the wages from lower skilled uk families i think different. |
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Well said Sonko. My thoughts entirely.
however, he does look the sort of guy who would need a crowbar to get his @rse off the sofa. |
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I thought just the same.
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So what's the answer, raise the cap to £50k?
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No. They should just be allowed to stay in their home until suitable accommodation can be found without having to split up a family.
One thing you may not realise is that this benefits cap has taken thousands of houses out of the social housing pool. These are also houses that would prove a struggle for private renters to afford as they command such a high rent. I fear this is going to lead to a plethora of empty properties and a welfare housing crisis. We're on the verge of one already. |
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Yep, the whole thing's a mess.
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Fink you all missing the point, if we had affordable public housing then wouldn;t need to find £950 to line the pockets of the landlord, benefits are an abuse that line the pockets of the rich through family tax credits (subsidising low wages) and housing benefit (subsidising private landlords).
SO the real scroungers are the firms that pay pittance wages and greedy landlords charging exorbitant rents. |
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Glorying in children losing their home. What a total unadulterated ****.
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BI, bashing landlords yet again.
The level of rent is simply the result of supply and demand. Is it the fault of landlords that there is not enough housing (supply) and that we have a rising population (demand)? |
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29 May 15 21:34 Do you not agree though that a weeks notice and the offer of a 2 bedroom flat for 7 kids is a bit of a p1sstake. If they got a weeks notice that must have come from the High Court for him to be forcibly evicted. But the article says they are bailiffs. All they had to do was refuse to let the bailiffs in, and then it goes to the high court, leaving the council more time to rehouse them, before the sheriffs arrive, who are allowed to force entry. |
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A lot of Newham's population will be evicted soon.
You won't find 3 bed properties there for £950 a month for a family. 40% of the population claim housing benefit, the average for the whole of London is 27%. Some of those are working full time, which shows how high the rents are. |
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That killed the thread off.
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what the fk are they doing having 7 kids when they have fk all money?
I will be even happier when then cap is under 20k |
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If you look at the photographs and read the article, you can see that that at most, 2 children were born after he lost his job in 2009.
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RUNNING TWO CARS - no wonder they are in the mire!!!!
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so what logic is there in any having more kids when you have no job? oh yeah I forgot everyone else should pay for them
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For all we know she may have been pregnant when he lost his job.
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Yes but how did she get pregnant. Would you???
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cunning photo that - A NEXT BAG!!!!
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The length of the front lawn,the old bikes in the hedge and the old tyre in the front garden tells you a lot.
You have to feel sorry for the kids but 7 children takes a lot of looking after whether you've got a job or not. If times had been that hard where did the money come from to buy the child's tablet and camera? |
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strangely The Mirror has another article about this family the following day, going on about what a feckless bone idle bunch they are.
Are these children victims of the Tory welfare cap or sheer parental stupidity? . http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/children-victims-tory-welfare-cap-5784476 |
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I very doubt much he was doing any sort of high job at tescos, especially if he hasn't had a job since, so to me it shows a lack of responsibility having as many as 5 before getting the push, oh yeah I forgot the state will provide...... this is why I'd like to see any child related handouts cut dead after 2.
mobo - not even with a bag and using cry's :-p |
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Next stop, the Jeremy Kyle Show.
Parasites. |
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from the article I posted (The Mirror remember)
1. Get a fricking grip A) It's a safety net, not a chaise longue. There are three adults in your household including your 19-year-old son so each of you should be paying your way. B) There are 2,343 job vacancies at your local JobCentre, including caretaker, warehouseman, cleaners and gardeners. None require exams or pay brilliantly but they do at least pay. C) You live in Britain, not a Third World country. So when the council has a three-bed house in a fortnight and a 2-bed flat while you wait, be bloody grateful you're not trekking across Eritrea foraging for food while your children are shot at by Al Shabaab. 2. Get real A) Sell the £500 SLR camera on eBay. B) Sell one of the cars. C) Stop shopping at Waitrose. 3. Get on with it A) It was temporary housing and discretionary payments and not one single bit of it was guaranteed or mandatory. B) Get off your arses instead of whining about how unfair life is. Life is unfair to EVERYONE, and you don't seem to have leukaemia or stepped on a landmine. |
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I would take a stab at them receiving a lot of in-work benefits before he lost his, probably low paid, job. When he was sacked, his family just moved from in work benefits to out of work benefits.
When it was stated they were able to run two cars, I did wonder if I was reading the Daily Mail. No way were they only given a weeks notice. |
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Well said HH.
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